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Emblem Lord's Video Critiqueing Corner
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Witchking_of_Angmar
Smash Lord
@ EL: No, it doesn't matter in the slightest. I guess I just like being picky.
princetoma
Smash Cadet
heres my match up any tips, suggestions would be appreciated thanxx.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mnJm-4dK24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mnJm-4dK24
Emblem Lord
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Ok, Echo here is your critique. Although since you asked me not to give you a full blown critique I will just give you general advice and point out mistakes you made.
For the most part you make the same generic mistakes that all players make at one point or another. So my advice won't go into extreme detail.
Match 1 - Vs. Falco on Final Destination
- You let chances to follow up your attacks get away from you.
- You approach Falco recklessly.
- Alot of needless full jumping.
- Let chances to punish Falco get away.
- Need to work on CGing effectively.
- Work on your edgeguarding.
Match 2 - Vs. Falco on Yoshi's Story
Your overall play was better this time. I noticed that you were more aggressive and your sped up your game. You messed up combos here and there though. Still it was a a step-up from the first match.
My advice from the previous match is still applicable here. This Falco didn't really abuse his lasers this match or keep you out effectively. He made alot of mistakes thaat let you in so you were able to combo him easily. It makes it harder to judge your vid accurately.
Match 3 - Vs. Falco on Corneria
All I saw from you this match was Short Hop aerial, Short Hop aerial, Short Hop aerial, Short Hop aerial, to Short Hop aerial to the occasional Short Hop with no aerial.
Reign in those Short Hop approaches ok? A better Falco would have demolished you, for leaving yourseld so vulnerable all the time. You would just SH all over the palce. SH aerial his shield will rising and you were at Falco's mercy, but you didn't stop cuz you never got punished. You have to play safer and smarter.
Also you seem to really like continuing your combos even when it isn't needed. Work on finsihing your combos and getting falco off the stage. That way you won't have to resort to using non sweetspot hits of the dolphin slash to get knock Falco away. And stop spiking opponent's into the stage. If Falco had teched any of those he would have recovered before you and you would have been dead meat.
You also do alot of wierd stuff. At one point you did a double jump backwards when you were right next to Falco and he was shielding. Why?
Match 4 - Vs. Falco on Pokemon Stadium
Falco got a little more aggressive with lasers to keep you out this time. You should work on varying your approach for Falco. Don't always just jump over lasers. It makes you predictable.
Again you have to work on those combos. There were alot of combos that you tried to drag on, when you should have ended them or that you didn't keep going because you chose a move that didn't string together with your last.
Honestly though this Falco left himself vulnerable alot with his use of nairs and overuse of spot dodging. And overall this Falco just didn't play safe. Which is why you could play the way you did and win.
Work on the things I said and I'm sure you will see results.
Hope I helped.
For the most part you make the same generic mistakes that all players make at one point or another. So my advice won't go into extreme detail.
Match 1 - Vs. Falco on Final Destination
- You let chances to follow up your attacks get away from you.
- You approach Falco recklessly.
- Alot of needless full jumping.
- Let chances to punish Falco get away.
- Need to work on CGing effectively.
- Work on your edgeguarding.
Match 2 - Vs. Falco on Yoshi's Story
Your overall play was better this time. I noticed that you were more aggressive and your sped up your game. You messed up combos here and there though. Still it was a a step-up from the first match.
My advice from the previous match is still applicable here. This Falco didn't really abuse his lasers this match or keep you out effectively. He made alot of mistakes thaat let you in so you were able to combo him easily. It makes it harder to judge your vid accurately.
Match 3 - Vs. Falco on Corneria
All I saw from you this match was Short Hop aerial, Short Hop aerial, Short Hop aerial, Short Hop aerial, to Short Hop aerial to the occasional Short Hop with no aerial.
Reign in those Short Hop approaches ok? A better Falco would have demolished you, for leaving yourseld so vulnerable all the time. You would just SH all over the palce. SH aerial his shield will rising and you were at Falco's mercy, but you didn't stop cuz you never got punished. You have to play safer and smarter.
Also you seem to really like continuing your combos even when it isn't needed. Work on finsihing your combos and getting falco off the stage. That way you won't have to resort to using non sweetspot hits of the dolphin slash to get knock Falco away. And stop spiking opponent's into the stage. If Falco had teched any of those he would have recovered before you and you would have been dead meat.
You also do alot of wierd stuff. At one point you did a double jump backwards when you were right next to Falco and he was shielding. Why?
Match 4 - Vs. Falco on Pokemon Stadium
Falco got a little more aggressive with lasers to keep you out this time. You should work on varying your approach for Falco. Don't always just jump over lasers. It makes you predictable.
Again you have to work on those combos. There were alot of combos that you tried to drag on, when you should have ended them or that you didn't keep going because you chose a move that didn't string together with your last.
Honestly though this Falco left himself vulnerable alot with his use of nairs and overuse of spot dodging. And overall this Falco just didn't play safe. Which is why you could play the way you did and win.
Work on the things I said and I'm sure you will see results.
Hope I helped.
thebluedeath1000
Smash Champion
and emblem, you ignore me why?
you know, you should be nice to me, as me being such an old good friend.
Also, good going with this topic.
you know, you should be nice to me, as me being such an old good friend.
Also, good going with this topic.
Emblem Lord
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thebluedeath1000: I ignored nothing. You made a comment about me that's all. I just didn't think it was the type of comment to warrant a response.
lol. Calm down. You are such an attention wh0re. I swear you act like a chick sometimes.
hehe.
Anyway, I'm going to skip ahead to princetoma since he only posted one vid. I'll get back to Buh and Combo Turtle another day.
Match 1 - Vs. Marth on Final Destination.
This will another one of those critiques where I don't go in-depth but just give overall advice, since toma seems like he hasn't become fully comfortable with Marth and hasn't grasped his basic physics/combos/ edge guarding techniques.
- Be quicker with your response to situations. Don't d-throw someone and then when they tech, you do nothing. That isn't smart.
- Work on those combos. Fair to fair to fair to fair to fair isn't good. Know when to cut your combos shorter and when to extend them.
- F-throw to f-smash doesn't work on seasoned Marth players. DI the f-throw down and away.
- Work on speeding up your game. This is different from flashiness. Speed is just reacting faster to situations and being elusive thorugh DDing and WDing. also being more effient with your combos.
Just practice more with Marth, experiment and you will get the hang of it. there sin't muich to say while you are at this level Toma. Just keep practicing the basics and watch vids. Try to emulate and understand how better Marth players play to increase your own awareness of the game.
lol. Calm down. You are such an attention wh0re. I swear you act like a chick sometimes.
hehe.
Anyway, I'm going to skip ahead to princetoma since he only posted one vid. I'll get back to Buh and Combo Turtle another day.
Match 1 - Vs. Marth on Final Destination.
This will another one of those critiques where I don't go in-depth but just give overall advice, since toma seems like he hasn't become fully comfortable with Marth and hasn't grasped his basic physics/combos/ edge guarding techniques.
- Be quicker with your response to situations. Don't d-throw someone and then when they tech, you do nothing. That isn't smart.
- Work on those combos. Fair to fair to fair to fair to fair isn't good. Know when to cut your combos shorter and when to extend them.
- F-throw to f-smash doesn't work on seasoned Marth players. DI the f-throw down and away.
- Work on speeding up your game. This is different from flashiness. Speed is just reacting faster to situations and being elusive thorugh DDing and WDing. also being more effient with your combos.
Just practice more with Marth, experiment and you will get the hang of it. there sin't muich to say while you are at this level Toma. Just keep practicing the basics and watch vids. Try to emulate and understand how better Marth players play to increase your own awareness of the game.
good stuff, i'll definetely take use of your advice here. my buddy secks that i was playing with plays with me almost every weekend, so thats why some of the things might not of made alot of sense, but are done because you know the kind of player they are, if you know what i mean. i am really trying to work on my marth though. Again, thanks for the advice, I appreciate you taking the time to check 'em out.
SaveTheQueen
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Hey man, I loved your advice last time...it helped me a lot. Here are 10 matchs against Hylian. Critique please?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzUdaccTQfQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N_wtrYC2-I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tMPyU7KdkE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVCx2YTn_As
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3d0SIOYfPo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHt43KclnjA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu_qW8WIvg0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgC2xcGhvRg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTT9QZD8wSk
You don't have to watch all of them, but they are pretty entertaining.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzUdaccTQfQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N_wtrYC2-I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tMPyU7KdkE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVCx2YTn_As
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3d0SIOYfPo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHt43KclnjA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu_qW8WIvg0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgC2xcGhvRg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTT9QZD8wSk
You don't have to watch all of them, but they are pretty entertaining.
princetoma
Smash Cadet
Thank you alot emblem lord i will be sure to work on this and do you mean like at this level not good enough? Also my friend usually abused the chainthrow alot so that explanation help alot i try to DI from it but cant never get out the situation.
Eltrotraw
Smash Journeyman
This sounds like something I so desperately need with my Marth, apparently.
Link: Eltrotraw(Marth) vs. Rehabilitator(Sheik) 01-22
Recorded with a digital camera, so you can hear the controller and our talking. I know that I did great my first stock but fell apart after that, but I'd like to know what exactly.
Link: Eltrotraw(Marth) vs. Rehabilitator(Sheik) 01-22
Recorded with a digital camera, so you can hear the controller and our talking. I know that I did great my first stock but fell apart after that, but I'd like to know what exactly.
sinoya
Smash Rookie
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6cSFWpnhe9o vs fox
http://youtube.com/watch?v=P9IC7e-VE4k vs falco
i thought i was doing well at the beginning of both matches but something went wrong along the way. ):
i'd appreciate an overview and maybe point out any bad habits.
apologize for the quality/music.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=P9IC7e-VE4k vs falco
i thought i was doing well at the beginning of both matches but something went wrong along the way. ):
i'd appreciate an overview and maybe point out any bad habits.
apologize for the quality/music.
Emblem Lord
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Buh: There is no way I can look over that mnay vids. Choose the vids that you really want me to look at. Or choose one set that you really want me to look at.
Anyway, I will get back to you later.
People you gotta realize that I have a job, a girlfriend, a crew in NJ that I'm helping to support and school.
I don't have massive amounts of free time. Don't go posting a plethora of vids. If you do, I will just ignore the ever loving **** outta you.
3 or 4 people. At most 5 vids in a set that is best 3 out of 5.
Also if you post one or two vids then you get priority over people that post 4 or 5.
ComboTurtle here we go.
Match 1 - Vs. Fox on Yoshi's Story
So, this will be another general overview. Nothing too in-depth. Just general advice.
- Smash DI Foxes uair. You shouldn't be letting Fox nail you with this.
- Work on edgeguarding. Sometimes it was good other times you negleted to even be close to the edge and keep Fox away. You also SDed on your last stock because you flubbed your edgeguard.
- Don't do weird **** like SFFHL Bair out of nowhere.
- Don't miss l-cancels.
- Don't mess around everytime you kill Fox. He was able to kill you alot of the time because you would jump around and he would get you with a uair.
- More fair to grab.
- More d-tilt.
- More dash dancing.
Match 2 - Vs. Shiek on Yoshi's Story
- Don't u-throw Shiek and then do nothing. Do an u-tilt or jump after her with an aerial.
- Work on your follow-ups in your combos.
- Work on your edgeguarding. Seriously, there were so many times where you got her off the stage only to do something wierd like short hop while facing the other direction. STOP DOING WIERD ****!
- Learn to wall tech.
That's all for now.
Just work on that.
Anyway, I will get back to you later.
People you gotta realize that I have a job, a girlfriend, a crew in NJ that I'm helping to support and school.
I don't have massive amounts of free time. Don't go posting a plethora of vids. If you do, I will just ignore the ever loving **** outta you.
3 or 4 people. At most 5 vids in a set that is best 3 out of 5.
Also if you post one or two vids then you get priority over people that post 4 or 5.
ComboTurtle here we go.
Match 1 - Vs. Fox on Yoshi's Story
So, this will be another general overview. Nothing too in-depth. Just general advice.
- Smash DI Foxes uair. You shouldn't be letting Fox nail you with this.
- Work on edgeguarding. Sometimes it was good other times you negleted to even be close to the edge and keep Fox away. You also SDed on your last stock because you flubbed your edgeguard.
- Don't do weird **** like SFFHL Bair out of nowhere.
- Don't miss l-cancels.
- Don't mess around everytime you kill Fox. He was able to kill you alot of the time because you would jump around and he would get you with a uair.
- More fair to grab.
- More d-tilt.
- More dash dancing.
Match 2 - Vs. Shiek on Yoshi's Story
- Don't u-throw Shiek and then do nothing. Do an u-tilt or jump after her with an aerial.
- Work on your follow-ups in your combos.
- Work on your edgeguarding. Seriously, there were so many times where you got her off the stage only to do something wierd like short hop while facing the other direction. STOP DOING WIERD ****!
- Learn to wall tech.
That's all for now.
Just work on that.
ComboTurtle
Smash Lord
is the best way to smash di foxes uair to let him just throw u straight up then quickly smash towards his tail after the first hit or is it better to di the throw and then hit away again? and i'll work on the other things mentioned especially the weird **** and try and come back with new and improved vids, thanx bud.
and try and come back with new and improved vids, thanx bud.Buh
Smash Apprentice
Ok Emblem Lord, I get ya. Sorry about that, I figured you would just watch the first few out of each of the match-ups or something. Anyway, these are good:
Marth vs. Fox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAZ_8pErXSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbDAUF5hMwE
The first Fox is Hylian, and the second is Save The Queen. They're styles are really different (almost polar opposites, really), so some advice on that would be nice.
Marth vs. Sheik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aiKfIUb8Sc
Sheik just decimates me in general.
Anyway, I need specific advice from my Marth vs. Sheik, because that's my worst match-up. Then perhaps a bit of general advice on what I need to improve on and do differently?
Thanks.
Marth vs. Fox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAZ_8pErXSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbDAUF5hMwE
The first Fox is Hylian, and the second is Save The Queen. They're styles are really different (almost polar opposites, really), so some advice on that would be nice.
Marth vs. Sheik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aiKfIUb8Sc
Sheik just decimates me in general.
Anyway, I need specific advice from my Marth vs. Sheik, because that's my worst match-up. Then perhaps a bit of general advice on what I need to improve on and do differently?
Thanks.
I'm not terrible, but I had some tough opponents, so here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rtbk-MGS74
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TzALg_Pass
I'm guessin I need to not be as reckless and fake attacks a little more, but I'm sure you'll find plenty to fix. Thanks for helpin me out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rtbk-MGS74
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TzALg_Pass
I'm guessin I need to not be as reckless and fake attacks a little more, but I'm sure you'll find plenty to fix. Thanks for helpin me out.
Juke
Smash Journeyman
IrArby
Smash Ace
I have niether the technology nor the desire to have my marth critiquied just now. Too embarassing. But I did have an idea that maybe EL could critique an M2K match. Not so much for mistakes (blasphemy!) but more of a guide thingie for us marths still in the immitation/innovation phase.
Just an idea. I think a M2K match breakdown would extremely helpful.
Just an idea. I think a M2K match breakdown would extremely helpful.
Witchking_of_Angmar
Smash Lord
Did you read Forward's critique of Bass vs. Eggm? He did the first minute or so in depth, and that already took him over 2 hours. What you're asking of EL is slightly too much, I think, especially considering that he isn't even critiquing lots of people because they have too many vids.
Video breakdowns are much harder than just giving advice, which is time consuming enough. Especially if you're breaking down a vid of pros.
IrArby
Smash Ace
yes i did see it and I realize that alot of what goes on in a matchup of that calibur is extremely situational and you have to go super in depth to explain why someone naired and not faired so I def. see your point.
Emblem Lord
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Ok, guys I'm off Thursday, so alot of you will have your critique by then.
Itakio
Smash Journeyman
Hey, could you do my videos? I think I'm an okay Marth, though my opponent doesn't use advance techs for the most part. I could probably work on quite a few things, but I'd like you to take a look at videos and see for yourself. Here they are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S90755M783o (there was something in the middle of the screen in the beginning, that's why I shielded for so long)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvLPGH0nZnc
Please excuse the audio. XP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S90755M783o (there was something in the middle of the screen in the beginning, that's why I shielded for so long)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvLPGH0nZnc
Please excuse the audio. XP
triforceofcourage787
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptZqMZTYZdo
here is my friends marth. advice and anything else is appreciated
i am the sheik..
here is my friends marth. advice and anything else is appreciated
i am the sheik..
Dark Sonic
Smash Hero
Did Emblem Lord die or something. Someone should really take care of this thread while he's gone.
Emblem Lord
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Naw. I'm alive and well.
So much Brawl hype and me being stoked over Marth's return has made me ignore this thread. My bad. Anyway, Arcnatural siad he wanted to help me with some critiques cuz he too is bored out of his skull.
So just giving people a heads up for that. His critiqueing style is also in-depth and somewhat similar to mine so don't think you will get crappy advice.
I'll try to have 2 critiques out on Tuesday ok?
So much Brawl hype and me being stoked over Marth's return has made me ignore this thread. My bad. Anyway, Arcnatural siad he wanted to help me with some critiques cuz he too is bored out of his skull.
So just giving people a heads up for that. His critiqueing style is also in-depth and somewhat similar to mine so don't think you will get crappy advice.
I'll try to have 2 critiques out on Tuesday ok?
Dark Sonic
Smash Hero
^^That's cool. Maybe when Brawl comes out we can have a video critique thread there too, but we'll have everybody pitch in. That way we keep the Marth boards clean, and nobody has to get swamped with videos to critique. I think the brawl hype has made everyone more active in general, but mostly in...the brawl section.