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So, to try and move the topic of discussion away from real fake leaks, and unconfirmed deconfirmed theories - I messed around in X a bit earlier, and decided to take a pic of my current fashion gear that I have on Elma, since I thought that it could also make for a good alternate costume in Smash.
Looks nice, I would think she would just get palette swaps referencing all the party members though.
Any thoughts?
Even if she doesn’t make base she could appear as dlc so don’t y’all get too down in the dumps yet. And if Nintendo decides to port x to switch (which is a real possibility since they seem to be porting a lot of the bigger budget wii u titles to switch to try and get some actual money off em now) she could be revealed in a direct after that.
I think it's actually the opposite in that Elma has a better chance to be in the base roster than Rex and Pyra. XCX was released the same year when Sakurai was deciding the roster. Rex and Pyra wasn't even created until around a year after the roster was decided.
I still firmly believe that she still has a very good chance of being in the base roster, though I must admit, I am a bit on edge.
This is why I really have been hating the ballot lately- people keep claiming that we're only getting ballot favorites and that anyone else is out of the running. I kinda takes the fun out of speculating when every third argument against your character is "They wouldn't have been voted for in 2015."
I doubt where getting any free characters and I feel like Elma could be a standalone reveal in October and it might be for the best to avoid the backlash of being one of the final 2 characters.
Robin had a standalone trailer. Maybe they could announce a new Pokemon Rumble or Mystery Dungeon and end the Direct on an Incineroar trailer.
This has been brought up again and again, and still doesn't make any sense. For R&P to make into the base roster the development team would've essentially needed a time machine, since Ultimate began production in late 2015, at which point the designs of those two were rather unlikely to even be finalized. And even if they were, just because they've got designs, doesn't mean that anything else from their game was already set in stone. Xenoblade can't really be equated with something like Pokémon, were you can just come up with a fighting style based off a characters base concept and typing. With something as story-driven as Xenoblade, the development of Ultimate would have needed a lot more information than reasonably could've been available. That aside, what reason would Ultimate's development team have had to go out of their way to prioritize a newcomer from Xenoblade Chronicles 2 over one from X? Back in 2015, there was no way to tell that 2 would sell as well as it did. Hell, back then they didn't even know that the Switch would do as well as it is doing. XBC2 is essentially in the same boat as ARMS, and the developer of that already said that we shouldn't expect any character from the game to make it into Smash.
This.
Lora would rock, especially since she'd probably come with Jin.
Plus everyone and their mother were calling for Decidueye early on, now I hardly ever see anyone talk about it.
The problem is Pokemon is a much bigger franchise than Xenoblade. So it getting around the popularity thing makes a lot more sense than Xenoblade doing so. I'd love to see Elma, but it's not all that likely unfortunately.
Yeah, speculation has gone to s*** recently. Sakurai's recent comments only helkp to strengthen that godforsaken box theory, and many people seem to think that Sakurai "lessening the pace" = "less characters" which I don't think necessarily has to be the case.
It could be (just like Robin was too), but I would love to see her legitimately leaked like Ken, saying all the people trying to disprove her because "No way they would use such an unrequested/undeserving character instead of ____________" only to have her being revealed in the end. That would be a sweet end to our journey full of salt.
I couldn't agree more. Having hope is what makes the difference.
With XCX2 being a likelihood, yes. Honestly my hope is for both Xenoblade characters to make it in, so if that's what must be done then so be it. However I do believe if Elma doesn't make it into base, her likelihood to make it through DLC is much less likely. We have to remember that Sakurai passed up Elma for a sixth Fire emblem character back in Wii U's DLC days. The considered reason was because Fire Emblem simply was more popular and stood to sell better DLC wise. This isn't a problem with base roster characters (like I would never imagine a character like Shulk being a DLC character), which is why I feel she has a much better chance in base smash.
I don't remember that at all. Did he really consider Elma back then?
Sakurai never explicitly said he considered Elma for DLC.
Should had been Elma...
Worth noting that Corrin was based on ike (or was it marth? one of them anyway) which would've made them easier to develop much like how Bayo was based on ZSS, and Elma would've kinda required a stage, Fire emblem was and is much more popular than Xenoblade too. Going for Corrin at the time makes sense.
While I doubt Elma being in Smash at the time would have pushed many to buy a Wii U for Xenoblade Chronicles X and at the time nobody could know Xenoblade would join the over 1 million sellers group. Elma being a blade in Xenoblade Chronicles 2 tells me Nintendo and Monolith Soft knows she's popular and at least she did not end up in the Nintendo vault never to be used again.
