Elma for Smash Ultimate: Strength comes from experience. That’s true on any planet.

[Wisehunter]

And Rex has more chance in a second wave than Elma.

Honestly, I am not sure if I will get this xenoblade 1 remaster. At least not until they announce a X port too.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

And Rex has more chance in a second wave than Elma.

Honestly, I am not sure if I will get this xenoblade 1 remaster. At least not until they announce a X port too.

mmmm I doubt Rex, since to me Sans's Mii Costume felt like just as much as a consolation prize, with even a Smash version of Megalovania to boot

I still think against all odds Elma's more likely, heck even Mecha-Fiora if they wanna pull a Chrom

 

[Phoebe3315]

I can't help but feel if Elma isn't Fighter Pass character #5, Sakurai will 100% prioritize Rex instead and she won't be added by the end of DLC development, unless Monolith is making X2 right now with Elma and want to promote her more. The outcry for Rex & Pyra was too big and Sakurai loves XC2 too much... If this happens, I'll be significantly less annoyed IF WE CAN JUST GET A FREAKING X PORT! Since 2 got such a large DLC they gave it its own physical release and XC1 is being released a THIRD TIME, it feels like X is now less than 25% of the series; much less if you consider how well known each entry is.

 

[jahkzheng]

In my perfect selfish world we'd get KOS-MOS, Elma, Rex/Aegis, maybe Lora/Jin&Haze, and maybe another xeno character all in one pass, lol. Like I've said a few times.. I know this is silly and is sooooo unlikely to happen. Really, I'll be happy with any one of those. None especially more than any other, but I know some or more likely than others.

Honestly.. when I think about it, the thing I miss most from XCX in Smash isn't Elma necessarily... it's the music. Elma is awesome and having Elma in smash would feel like a wonderful gift that I wished for but I'm not sure I believed... but having XCX music just feels like something that was supposed to happen. Consequently, it makes me want Elma in even more. But I'd certainly accept KOS-MOS or Rex/Aegis if they at least added XCX music. The XCX music really is the factor that elevates Elma for me to tied for most wanted with Rex/Aegis tbh.

Also.. just want to add that having Elma cameo in XC2 was a pretty big deal. Monolith really showed some Elma and XCX love there. Even if Smash potentially forgets her... I can't believe Monolith is. They have plans and she'll be in them most certainly. They may even "non-canon" insert her in a XC remake cameo, lol.. much like in XC2. They might even toss in some "definitive edition" ng+ lore bits to more deeply connect all the universes. With XC2 somewhat introducing more new canon.. there's plenty the XC1 remake could do discretely to further establish these ties. Just keep that in mind. It'll be fun see unfold.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

In my perfect selfish world we'd get KOS-MOS, Elma, Rex/Aegis, maybe Lora/Jin&Haze, and maybe another xeno character all in one pass, lol. Like I've said a few times.. I know this is silly and is sooooo unlikely to happen. Really, I'll be happy with any one of those. None especially more than any other, but I know some or more likely than others.

Honestly.. when I think about it, the thing I miss most from XCX in Smash isn't Elma necessarily... it's the music. Elma is awesome and having Elma in smash would feel like a wonderful gift that I wished for but I'm not sure I believed... but having XCX music just feels like something that was supposed to happen. Consequently, it makes me want Elma in even more. But I'd certainly accept KOS-MOS or Rex/Aegis if they at least added XCX music. The XCX music really is the factor that elevates Elma for me to tied for most wanted with Rex/Aegis tbh.

Also.. just want to add that having Elma cameo in XC2 was a pretty big deal. Monolith really showed some Elma and XCX love there. Even if Smash potentially forgets her... I can't believe Monolith is. They have plans and she'll be in them most certainly. They may even "non-canon" insert her in a XC remake cameo, lol.. much like in XC2. They might even toss in some "definitive edition" ng+ lore bits to more deeply connect all the universes. With XC2 someone introducing more new canon.. there's plenty the XC1 remake could do discretely to further establish these ties. Just keep that in mind. It'll be fun see unfold.

kinda think that XC2 tease of "Shulk and Elma in the same place together" will amount to something beyond a Spirit.

Deltarune after all had a "Super Smashing Fighters" mention, and that ultimately amounted in Sans's Mii Costume + Megalovania remix, so I now call this the "Teases Theory"

 

[Wisehunter]

Even nore annoying will be all the jokes now that 1 is back, again, nonetheless, yet nothing from X.

Way to ruin a day. It is really hard to swallow seing that "FE" game coming back before. The amount of people asking for that is not evem close to X. So many people were hyping X now, even on gamefaqs, felt like when majora mask started to get praise before its 3DS version.

All of that to waste now.

I don't even know what to think of this remaster, hope it is not that new xenoblade project they had on Monolith Soft, hope it is just one of their newest studios doing it, while another of these new ones is also doing X.

"we would love to have it (X) on switch, I (Takahashi) still play it time to time" yeah, I can see that.

 

[Phoebe3315]

Honestly.. when I think about it, the thing I miss most from XCX in Smash isn't Elma necessarily... it's the music. Elma is awesome and having Elma in smash would feel like a wonderful gift that I wished for but I'm not sure I believed... but having XCX music just feels like something that was supposed to happen. Consequently, it makes me want Elma in even more. But I'd certainly accept KOS-MOS or Rex/Aegis if they at least added XCX music. The XCX music really is the factor that elevates Elma for me to tied for most wanted with Rex/Aegis tbh.

Also.. just want to add that having Elma cameo in XC2 was a pretty big deal. Monolith really showed some Elma and XCX love there. Even if Smash potentially forgets her... I can't believe Monolith is. They have plans and she'll be in them most certainly. They may even "non-canon" insert her in a XC remake cameo, lol.. much like in XC2. They might even toss in some "definitive edition" ng+ lore bits to more deeply connect all the universes. With XC2 somewhat introducing more new canon.. there's plenty the XC1 remake could do discretely to further establish these ties. Just keep that in mind. It'll be fun see unfold.

I agree. Hiroyuki Sawano is my favorite composer, and his first big full OST for a video game went to Xenoblade X which was a relatively high profile release (for the Wii U) shortly before Smash Ultimate's project plan. It was a perfect opportunity to include some...

To be a bit more optimistic, perhaps future Smash DLC can come in the form of music and/or a stage without an accompanying character? I'd be okay with an Elma (or Skell?) Mii costume at this point if it came with X music. But as you said, even if X won't be properly acknowledged in Smash, Monolith seems to still care about X. Maybe the reason a port isn't getting announced is because they plan to make it more of a definitive edition to release closer to X2. I know a lot of content was cut from the original release.

 

[Altais]

The announcement of Xenoblade Chronicles HD has increased mine hopes for both a Xenoblade X port and Elma being in Smash. I honestly wasn't expecting this. Since Shulk is already in Smash, I fancy the remake shouldn't have a hard time selling.

Now that we know there will be more fighters beyond the initial five, I'd say Elma and Rex stand a fair chance. Though, I'm not certain what kind of competition they face.

 

[Jocario Zero]

The direct was pretty good. Banjo and Kazooie looked pretty awesome. Terry is a cool addition as well.

Btw can we take a moment to realize that they ended the direct with Xenoblade? I mean, think about it: a full blown remake of a Wii-Game, that wasn't even supposed to release in the US. I think that shows quiet well how far the series has come in a few years.

And with the inclusion of the Sans-Costume, that was added because of the characters popularity, i think another Xenoblade-Character is very likely. If we asume, that they have yet to start development on any fighter beyond the fighters pass, i think we could see someone from the original game as DLC as a tie-in for the remake, most likely Fiora. Im sure that the ballot had something to do with her inclusion in Shulks FS (OH MY GOOD FIORA LOOKS SO GOOD IN THE REMAKE I CANT WAIT!!).

 

[Calamitas]

Okay, now that I could sleep over this all, I did some thinking on the situation of X and Elma for Smash. This Direct, like pretty much all the past ones, have all been exclusively focussing on games that come out over the next couple of months. So really, after this Direct, we can only say for certain that an X port won't come until February next year, March at latest. With the remake coming, they also have to know that people are going to ask for X all the more. They just can't be ignorant on it. So my guess is that they didn't want the remake stealing its attention (or it stealing the attention for Daemon X Machina or TMS#FE), and might just announce it at a later date.
Also, like I mentioned last night: It's really odd to me Terry is already coming in November. That's what really gets me wondering about when they intend to reveal and release the 5th fighter. And now that it's revealed that more fighters are coming, I'm honestly starting to feel like it would be far less of a big deal if the Fighter's Pass wasn't all third-party. So yeah, the wind blows hard in December, I guess.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I hope Elma makes it guys. I think her along with Geno are probably locks now that we are getting DLC outside the Season Pass.

 

[PSIGuy]

"Probably locks" is pushing it. Still, we don't know that they'll be focusing only on third parties for the standalone fighters and there's a chance it's in Nintendo's interest to push Xenoblade X somehow. If not that, then Sakurai will probably take the opportunity to add Rex like he originally wanted. It's a longshot which is still a shot.

(Geno at the very least should get a Sans style Mii Costume that covers the entire Mii Fighter body plus a music track, though. Criminal how not even his Smash 4 costume returned.)

 

[Nihilem]

Well I think Elmas Chances (if she is not number 5 of the original pass) become smaller and smaller for each passing day if there is not some kind of deal between Monolith and Sakurai to promote XC X2 which might come out sometimes. XC2 just sold much better, is on the switch already and Sakurai already considered Rex in the first place to become playable. Which didnt work because of the release time of XC2 - which is no longer a factor for season pass 2.

But I would be happy for any kind of representation of Xenoblade in Smash because it is currently my 3th best liked series from Nintendo (excluding Smash Bros obviously). Also XC X2 or XCX Definitive edition on switch sounds nice, even if i am more in a favor of XC 3 .... just like the idea of titans as game worlds.

 

[Wisehunter]

Was recalling now that the poster for the new Xenoblade project Monolith Soft had on its site ( together with the one for the new ip and the one for zelda BOTW 2) was of Mechonis and Bionis...

So, is this thing they decided to do for 1, the "new" xenoblade project that add was talking about? Because only this is left, to make the whole thing more dissapoiting.

I have to wonder what excuse Takahashi will give in a next interview, when asked why they went with 1 rather than X. Not that we can trust what he says anymore, just curious to see how much of a straight face he can pull off.

 

[Nihilem]

Well to be fair XC 1 is more iconic than XC X .....

Ok just went to their website - they had 4 concept arts on the main page: Zelda, XC2, XC1 and the new ip ...... Now I feel really sorry for all XC X Fans ....

 

[Megadoomer]

I have to wonder what excuse Takahashi will give in a next interview, when asked why they went with 1 rather than X. Not that we can trust what he says anymore, just curious to see how much of a straight face he can pull off.

Going into this with the attitude of "we know he's lying, but what excuse will he use?" doesn't seem like the best mindset - from what I recall, it was never promised or even implied that we'd get any sort of Xenoblade remake before this point.

Between Xenoblade 1 and Xenoblade X, 1 would definitely benefit more from a visual overhaul. Besides, the art style seems to be similar to Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - if the inclusion of Shulk and Fiora in Xenoblade 2 was an attempt at getting them to fit this art style, maybe the inclusion of Elma could mean something similar for X?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Hmm...

There was a problem fetching the tweet

So, now, it looks like that Milk-bosatu said that the female character would be the last fighter in the fighters pass.
So, Milk-bosatu is still not dead.

It’s possible that Mr. H, Milk’s source, showed him FP5 by accident and Milk believed that was FP4, as Terry is still in development. The original rumor also said FP5 “already appeared”

Female... uses a projectile (including guns)... already appeared...?

Now who does that sound like...? :thinking:

 

[Aetheri]

Tbh I don't think Elma's going to be FP5 since i think they are going for IPs that aren't represented in Smash at all in the Fighter's Pass, which is pretty much just third party characters (and I hope Crash is the final character because holy gawd that'd be awesome)

 

[Megadoomer]

Tbh I don't think Elma's going to be FP5 since i think they are going for IPs that aren't represented in Smash at all in the Fighter's Pass, which is pretty much just third party characters (and I hope Crash is the final character because holy gawd that'd be awesome)

Even if she doesn't, we know that there are more characters coming after the fighter's pass. We don't know how many, but I figure they'll be characters who had a surprisingly large amount of demand, and Elma seems like she could fit that category. (I'm pretty sure her demand built up a lot after the announcement of the Fighter's Pass and the strong implication that Rex and Pyra wouldn't make it in as playable characters)

 

[Aetheri]

Even if she doesn't, we know that there are more characters coming after the fighter's pass. We don't know how many, but I figure they'll be characters who had a surprisingly large amount of demand, and Elma seems like she could fit that category. (I'm pretty sure her demand built up a lot after the announcement of the Fighter's Pass and the strong implication that Rex and Pyra wouldn't make it in as playable characters)

For sure, I wasn't ruling her out entirely. Thing is we only have the most vague information just far regarding the second wave of DLC. While it does seem Sakurai wants to focus more on fan-service we still have very little to go off of with how it will be handled.

 

[SorrowOfAcheron]

Going into this with the attitude of "we know he's lying, but what excuse will he use?" doesn't seem like the best mindset - from what I recall, it was never promised or even implied that we'd get any sort of Xenoblade remake before this point.

Between Xenoblade 1 and Xenoblade X, 1 would definitely benefit more from a visual overhaul. Besides, the art style seems to be similar to Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - if the inclusion of Shulk and Fiora in Xenoblade 2 was an attempt at getting them to fit this art style, maybe the inclusion of Elma could mean something similar for X?

I love and hate this cause it gives me big hope.
Having all three games on the Switch with up to date graphics would be swell, though I wonder if they will go with XC2's art style for an X remake if it happens; I kind of like the realistic look X has and it keeps it different from the numbered series. Though Elma does look pretty good either way.

 

[Calamitas]

One other thought I was having: Xenoblade as a series is now big enough that the announcement of a new (well, new-ish) game is something major enough for Nintendo to close out a Direct in a "one more thing" kinda way. At this point, they'd really be downright stupid to not port X, especially when considering how many Wii U games have already being brought over.

. . .So Monolith Soft and Nintendo better not make me eat my words.

 

[jahkzheng]

Soooo.. I was just playing around with DxM demo and thinking about how much the xeno series does really feel like it's hit this level of popularity and inclusion among the big boys and how crossovers aren't that uncommon at all these days, and..... you know where I'm going with this.

DxM has confirmed post launch content. How would you all feel if they included some special guest characters. I'm thinking like.. Elma and Lin. A no brainer really.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

One other thought I was having: Xenoblade as a series is now big enough that the announcement of a new (well, new-ish) game is something major enough for Nintendo to close out a Direct in a "one more thing" kinda way. At this point, they'd really be downright stupid to not port X, especially when considering how many Wii U games have already being brought over.

. . .So Monolith Soft and Nintendo better not make me eat my words.

Super Mario 3D World still hasn't been ported over, for some reason it's quite difficult for them to do the simplest things right now. Yet Kirby somehow got a rehash of Team Clash Deluxe, go fig there.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Edit: disregard this. Issue has been fixed. Delete if you want

 

[ColtonS25]

Oh god this is such a cursed meme and I love it

https://www.reddit.com/r/Xenoblade_...kay_my_games_already_in_hd_now_go_put_a_dent/

 

[Sigman]

I agree. Hiroyuki Sawano is my favorite composer, and his first big full OST for a video game went to Xenoblade X which was a relatively high profile release (for the Wii U) shortly before Smash Ultimate's project plan. It was a perfect opportunity to include some...

To be a bit more optimistic, perhaps future Smash DLC can come in the form of music and/or a stage without an accompanying character? I'd be okay with an Elma (or Skell?) Mii costume at this point if it came with X music. But as you said, even if X won't be properly acknowledged in Smash, Monolith seems to still care about X. Maybe the reason a port isn't getting announced is because they plan to make it more of a definitive edition to release closer to X2. I know a lot of content was cut from the original release.

Hopefully, they would use the unused songs "Hope" for Xenoblade Definitive Edition

and "In The Forest" for Xenoblade X Definitive Edition

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Speaking of unused content, there’s unused dialogue of Lao and Celica banter when they’re in the same team, which is normally impossible. Maybe they’ll rewrite some parts of the story to make that possible?

Also if Adam Howden’s surprise VO role is XB1DE, maybe Caitlin Glass’s NDA role is XBXDE? Or even a cameo in the former?

 

[Wisehunter]

In the Forest is used on the fight against Yggralith Zero ( world nemesis) on Xenoblade X. But, as other X songs, they did not use the full song, just parts of it. But it is not unused.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

In the Forest is used on the fight against Yggralith Zero ( world nemesis) on Xenoblade X. But, as other X songs, they did not use the full song, just parts of it. But it is not unused.

That’s a remix, not the original version

 

[Wisehunter]

That’s a remix, not the original version

The point remains that the song is there in some form, it is not unused. And they did that because they developers found the original complete sound would not fit well.

Now, I think wir fliegin should get the full version. Or at least be twitched to make the ground battle overdrive and the Skell overdrive sound have something different.

 

[Senatiator]

Speaking of unused content, there’s unused dialogue of Lao and Celica banter when they’re in the same team, which is normally impossible. Maybe they’ll rewrite some parts of the story to make that possible?

Also if Adam Howden’s surprise VO role is XB1DE, maybe Caitlin Glass’s NDA role is XBXDE? Or even a cameo in the former?

Maybe Hiroyuki Sawano's secret project is Xenoblade X Definitive Edition and Masahiro Sakurai's current project that he got a toy mech for is said Xeno project.

 

[Calamitas]

Also if Adam Howden’s surprise VO role is XB1DE, maybe Caitlin Glass’s NDA role is XBXDE? Or even a cameo in the former?

Considering when Glass and Howden made their respective tweets mentioning their roles, I'd actually think that whatever the former's doing would have to come out before the latter. There were quite a few months between those.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Maybe Hiroyuki Sawano's secret project is Xenoblade X Definitive Edition and Masahiro Sakurai's current project that he got a toy mech for is said Xeno project.

Would Sakurai be working on XBXDE though? (Maybe I’m misinterpreting the statement...)

 

[Limitbreakfull]

Things are looking doubtful for our FMJ. If Elma is the last DLC in the fighters pass, I hope they use "Uncontrollable" as a pun on her being the Last Fighter being announced in December. Much like they played "Last Surprise" for Joker during the game awards.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Would Sakurai be working on XBXDE though? (Maybe I’m misinterpreting the statement...)

I think Senatiator meant to say that the toy mach is for Elma in Smash which is to promote for said Xeno project.

Things are looking doubtful for our FMJ. If Elma is the last DLC in the fighters pass, I hope they use "Uncontrollable" as a pun on her being the Last Fighter being announced in December. Much like they played "Last Surprise" for Joker during the game awards.

Things are certainly looking better for our girl now that we know we are getting DLC outside the Season Pass.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

More unused content they can use if XBXDE is a thing:

- Neilnail Albus/Furvus. They’re currently only time attack bosses
- REINA FRIGGIN SAKURABA. she’ll probably be repurposed as an NPC but still
- New Tokyo?

Feel like I’m missing some things too...

 

[Calamitas]

More unused content they can use if XBXDE is a thing:

- Neilnail Albus/Furvus. They’re currently only time attack bosses
- REINA FRIGGIN SAKURABA. she’ll probably be repurposed as an NPC but still
- New Tokyo?

Feel like I’m missing some things too...

Tbh I think any Definitive Edition for X would probably end up being about twice as large as the original. I mean, didn't they severely cut back on features and the like during production?

 

[GolisoPower]

Tbh I think any Definitive Edition for X would probably end up being about twice as large as the original. I mean, didn't they severely cut back on features and the like during production?

Features such as?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

If anything, here's a page of some of the missing content from X. No mention of the Neilnails or Reina though

https://tcrf.net/Xenoblade_Chronicles_X