Elma for Smash Ultimate: Strength comes from experience. That’s true on any planet.

[Rie Sonomura]

So someone initially claimed Ryu Hayabusa would be next, but it seems they’re the only one claiming this. Every other leaker seems to be saying someone else.

Maybe this is Nintendo cracking down tighter on leaks but there’s a chance that if there is a reveal at the next direct we’ll go in completely blind...

 

[Calamitas]

So someone initially claimed Ryu Hayabusa would be next, but it seems they’re the only one claiming this. Every other leaker seems to be saying someone else.

Maybe this is Nintendo cracking down tighter on leaks but there’s a chance that if there is a reveal at the next direct we’ll go in completely blind...

I'm somehow reminded of this thread's current title. . . although in this case, we have a vague idea on when the "end" is coming.

 

[Flyboy]

It's a bizarre world out there. I can only hope good things are coming.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

What’s funny about the Hayabusa leaker is that in his video he says there’ll be two years worth of DLC like how Splatoon 2 had updates for two years, ending with the Splatocalypse little over a month ago

It’s a little sus that he’d know that, but if Hayabusa IS next, there might be hope that all the datamined WoL slots will be filled, which means we might have more DLC outside the pass

 

[Flyboy]

What’s funny about the Hayabusa leaker is that in his video he says there’ll be two years worth of DLC like how Splatoon 2 had updates for two years, ending with the Splatocalypse little over a month ago

It’s a little sus that he’d know that, but if Hayabusa IS next, there might be hope that all the datamined WoL slots will be filled, which means we might have more DLC outside the pass

I didn't know that! That's really great - we may legit be getting a second pass. That'd be really surprising to me but pleasantly so.

 

[Calamitas]

What’s funny about the Hayabusa leaker is that in his video he says there’ll be two years worth of DLC like how Splatoon 2 had updates for two years, ending with the Splatocalypse little over a month ago

It’s a little sus that he’d know that, but if Hayabusa IS next, there might be hope that all the datamined WoL slots will be filled, which means we might have more DLC outside the pass

If that were the case, then it would honestly soften the blow of ninja boy and. . . well, the entire Fighter's Pass thus far for me. Still, the fact that this guy claims to know something like that makes this whole thing seem very suspect, just like you said.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

FP4 most likely leaked.

It’s... not Elma. It’s most likely someone from SNK given the copyright at the bottom.

If it’s Nakoruru who LITERALLY has a “Flying Weapon” however, the Milk bosatu leak is back on the table and FP5 would be someone who’s “already appeared”, ergo, a Spirit or something.

Geno? Bandana Waddle Dee? Shantae? Or even... our girl?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Sorry for yet another double post but

5 WAS LEAKED AND THIS ONE HAS NO NEW COPYRIGHTS; IT’S POSSIBLY FROM AN ALREADY REPRESENTED COMPANY (INCLUDING NINTENDO/MONOLITH SOFT THEMSELVES)

https://www.nintendo.es/Contenido-descargable/Pack-del-aspirante-5-1519372.html

Oh God please be Elma please be Elma PLEASE BE ELMA!!!

 

[Calamitas]

FP4 most likely leaked.

It’s... not Elma. It’s most likely someone from SNK given the copyright at the bottom.

If it’s Nakoruru who LITERALLY has a “Flying Weapon” however, the Milk bosatu leak is back on the table and FP5 would be someone who’s “already appeared”, ergo, a Spirit or something.

Geno? Bandana Waddle Dee? Shantae? Or even... our girl?

I think I'm gonna yell internally for a bit. And that not in a good way, mind you.
Okay, maybe even externally.

Sorry for yet another double post but

5 WAS LEAKED AND THIS ONE HAS NO NEW COPYRIGHTS; IT’S POSSIBLY FROM AN ALREADY REPRESENTED COMPANY (INCLUDING NINTENDO/MONOLITH SOFT THEMSELVES)

https://www.nintendo.es/Contenido-descargable/Pack-del-aspirante-5-1519372.html

Oh God please be Elma please be Elma PLEASE BE ELMA!!!

Can we really be certain on that, though? I kinda feel like that could also just be a placeholder. Tbh, right now I'm feeling. . . rather defeated, to say the least.

 

[Flyboy]

Look guys I know this is the Elma thread but I'm a HUUUUGE SNK fan so this is SO hype for me. God I hope 5 is Elma but I'm thinking it'll be someone already repped. Phoenix?? Geno?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Look guys I know this is the Elma thread but I'm a HUUUUGE SNK fan so this is SO hype for me. God I hope 5 is Elma but I'm thinking it'll be someone already repped. Phoenix?? Geno?

Maybe even KOS-MOS?

 

[Izayoi]

Quite the eventful past few weeks we've got here, huh?

There's quite a few characters for SNK that I can see making it into Smash as a really unique character I'm actually quite excited, to be honest.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Quite the eventful past few weeks we've got here, huh?

There's quite a few characters for SNK that I can see making it into Smash as a really unique character I'm actually quite excited, to be honest.

Ppl are saying the copyright and file size were copied from a page for a SNK Heroines DLC page. Only thing is, Hero has the same file size (4.19 MB).

Since Mai and Nakoruru appeared in Heroines and have projectiles it’s probably one of those two

And once again the rumor that originally said female projectile also said the character after that has “already appeared” so... kinda hoping it IS one of those two even if Mai seems too risqué for Smash

 

[Altais]

An idea recently occurred to me: If Xenoblade X ever did get ported to the Switch, I think it would be awesome if they added new voice options for the avatar, particularly voices from Xenoblade 2. I personally would like Jin and Mòrag's voices to be an option.

 

[Calamitas]

You know, while I'm still not very hopeful for Elma right now. If she were to somehow still make it as the fifth Fighter's Pass character, it would be oddly appropriate in a way. I mean, that way, the Fighter's Pass would have started with Xenoblade - Rex Mii costume - and ended with it.

 

[PSIGuy]

Amazing how we live in a timeline where Elma could get in and she still wouldn't be the least popular least known character on the fighter pass. Probably doesn't do much for her chances but still!

Maybe the direct that announces whatstheirface will have a morsel of Xenoblade news for us.

An idea recently occurred to me: If Xenoblade X ever did get ported to the Switch, I think it would be awesome if they added new voice options for the avatar, particularly voices from Xenoblade 2. I personally would like Jin and Mòrag's voices to be an option.

I've thought about this too, it'd be a nice continuation of the Shulk/Fiora voices from X.

 

[Calamitas]

Another somewhat good thing that I think comes from this entire deal: People are (hopefully) going to scale back their expectations quite a bit, instead of expecting the entire Fighter's Pass to be nothing but big, hype third party reveals. So basically:

Amazing how we live in a timeline where Elma could get in and she still wouldn't be the least popular least known character on the fighter pass. Probably doesn't do much for her chances but still!

Maybe the direct that announces whatstheirface will have a morsel of Xenoblade news for us.

Kinda my opinion as well, but slightly different.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I think I'm gonna yell internally for a bit. And that not in a good way, mind you.
Okay, maybe even externally.



Can we really be certain on that, though? I kinda feel like that could also just be a placeholder. Tbh, right now I'm feeling. . . rather defeated, to say the least.

Sabi said her very credible sources say that the SNK copyright on the site is 99% percent legit.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Sabi said her very credible sources say that the SNK copyright on the site is 99% percent legit.

What about the remaining 1%?

 

[RetrogamerMax]

What about the remaining 1%?

I don't know.

 

[Calamitas]

Sabi said her very credible sources say that the SNK copyright on the site is 99% percent legit.

Pay closer attention to the context in which I said that. I wasn't doubting the Fighter Pack 4 page, but rather Rie's conclusion that page for Pack 5 was something that we could count as a leak.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Pay closer attention to the context in which I said that. I wasn't doubting the Fighter Pack 4 page, but rather Rie's conclusion that page for Pack 5 was something that we could count as a leak.

Especially if our next character is Nakoruru which lines up with the original Milk Bosatu leak:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510954966253436931/617820186895974429/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510954966253436931/617820105463693441/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510954966253436931/617820254885642242/unknown.png

Not pictured: mention of the “flying weapon” which Milk Bosatu (now deleted) did legit say.

If our next character is that female with a flying weapon, that paves the way for the “already appeared” character mentioned in the first image, and “already appeared” can mean anything from an already repped third party, to someone who exists as a Spirit. And Elma is currently a Spirit. Basically, any new third parties like Bethesda can be ruled out for FP5 if this is true.

 

[Calamitas]

Especially if our next character is Nakoruru which lines up with the original Milk Bosatu leak:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510954966253436931/617820186895974429/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510954966253436931/617820105463693441/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510954966253436931/617820254885642242/unknown.png

Not pictured: mention of the “flying weapon” which Milk Bosatu (now deleted) did legit say.

If our next character is that female with a flying weapon, that paves the way for the “already appeared” character mentioned in the first image, and “already appeared” can mean anything from an already repped third party, to someone who exists as a Spirit. And Elma is currently a Spirit. Basically, any new third parties like Bethesda can be ruled out for FP5 if this is true.

Cheers, I'll drink to that.
I honestly low-key hope that after the announcement of the SNK character, Sakurai just comes out and says something to the effect of "Hey just letting you know, we done with third-parties/entirely new publishers now, last character is gonna be someone that's technically already in the game! Have fun figuring that one out. Sakurai out!". I doubt it'll happen, but it'd be nice.
At any rate, I'm just gonna hope that that leaker was right, after all.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Cheers, I'll drink to that.
I honestly low-key hope that after the announcement of the SNK character, Sakurai just comes out and says something to the effect of "Hey just letting you know, we done with third-parties/entirely new publishers now, last character is gonna be someone that's technically already in the game! Have fun figuring that one out. Sakurai out!". I doubt it'll happen, but it'd be nice.
At any rate, I'm just gonna hope that that leaker was right, after all.

For what it’s worth, if it IS a third party but one that is already present, I’d be down for KOS-MOS as Bandai Namco Rep #2, as long as it doesn’t mean a new copyright being added. I’ll even accept Capcom’s Phoenix Wright, I love Ace Attorney and Phoenix was fun in UMVC3.

Elma, though... if she’s the last pass fighter I will be crying tears of joy for 7 hours straight. While I still think against all odds that we WILL get more DLC if the surplus comment and additional datamined slots are anything to go by, Elma getting a huge ass pack of a stage and music would be a dream come true. especially for the music

 

[Abade]

Direct tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1168886367650119680?s=19

Tune in 9/4 at 3pm PT for a #NintendoDirect featuring roughly 40 minutes of information focused on 2019 #NintendoSwitch games, including #PokemonSwordShield and #LuigisMansion 3.https://t.co/d1Xx3bDbhq pic.twitter.com/S8w1HkTg62

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) September 3, 2019

Tune in 9/4 at 3pm PT for a #NintendoDirect featuring roughly 40 minutes of information focused on 2019 #NintendoSwitch games, including #PokemonSwordShield and #LuigisMansion 3.​

​

https://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/09-04-2019/

Time to announce that Xenoblade X Switch release.

About that... prices leaked, they’re all full price retail games, Amiibos only go for like $17 maximum if they’re not in a bundle:

More proof! pic.twitter.com/SdQXcBAxag

— Johnny (@jonlikeshorror) August 23, 2019

IT’S HAPPENING Y’ALL.

 

[Flyboy]

Let's go X port!!!!

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Regardless what happens tomorrow, the "female character using a mech" leak is probably going to be toast. Also, Tracer, but I already knew that was just bandwagoning off of that OW carrying case.

Another somewhat good thing that I think comes from this entire deal: People are (hopefully) going to scale back their expectations quite a bit, instead of expecting the entire Fighter's Pass to be nothing but big, hype third party reveals. So basically:



Kinda my opinion as well, but slightly different.

Some parts of the main hardcore Smash base didn't even know that SNK existed. Sometimes, I wonder just how many people besides me actually try to keep up with various game series in this industry.

Also, in all my years of being in this fanbase's speculation scene, if there's one thing I've learned, is that the average fans don't actually learn from their mistakes and broken fan rules.

 

[Flyboy]

Regardless what happens tomorrow, the "female character using a mech" leak is probably going to be toast. Also, Tracer, but I already knew that was just bandwagoning off of that OW carrying case.



Some parts of the main hardcore Smash base didn't even know that SNK existed. Sometimes, I wonder just how many people besides me actually try to keep up with various game series in this industry.

Also, in all my years of being in this fanbase's speculation scene, if there's one thing I've learned, is that the average fans don't actually learn from their mistakes and broken fan rules.

It's so bizarre to me how many people didn't realize that SNK was a thing. I'm not saying everyone needs to be a massive fan like me but they're ALL OVER the eShop so there's no excuse even if you're only a Nintendo fan. Metal Slug Anniversary was a high profile Wii release with exclusive games, even.

I always said SNK was a dark horse pick even back in February (I rated it 75% chance in the RTC) so I feel vindicated, haha. I'm so excited. I just hope the last character is Elma, or Phoenix Wright, or someone equally exciting or different!

 

[Rie Sonomura]

It's so bizarre to me how many people didn't realize that SNK was a thing. I'm not saying everyone needs to be a massive fan like me but they're ALL OVER the eShop so there's no excuse even if you're only a Nintendo fan. Metal Slug Anniversary was a high profile Wii release with exclusive games, even.

I always said SNK was a dark horse pick even back in February (I rated it 75% chance in the RTC) so I feel vindicated, haha. I'm so excited. I just hope the last character is Elma, or Phoenix Wright, or someone equally exciting or different!

I have more faith that FP5 will be a curveball as it seems Ryu Hayabusa WAS confirmed for Ultimate... a different Ultimate.

Warriors Orochi Ultimate or something? Either way what if the leaker confused that for Smash Ultimate lmao

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

It's so bizarre to me how many people didn't realize that SNK was a thing. I'm not saying everyone needs to be a massive fan like me but they're ALL OVER the eShop so there's no excuse even if you're only a Nintendo fan. Metal Slug Anniversary was a high profile Wii release with exclusive games, even.

I always said SNK was a dark horse pick even back in February (I rated it 75% chance in the RTC) so I feel vindicated, haha. I'm so excited. I just hope the last character is Elma, or Phoenix Wright, or someone equally exciting or different!

It doesn't help that they stopped being considered a heavy hitter after their former incarnation went bankrupt around the end of the 90s. Pretty much in Sega's status.

Even if Terry's the next guy, at least this'll exponentially increase fan support for Metal Slug's Marco. Especially seeing how many of the people I follow on Twitter (without having an account myself, I mean) have revealed themselves to be MS fans. Also, Super Smash Bros./Fatal Fury Special jokes everywhere.

As for curveballs, I'd like to see a first-party character that wouldn't necessarily be anticipated, like Poochy or King Boo, hehe.

 

[Calamitas]

Well then, the Direct got announced. . . let's hope that we at least finally get our X port out of this. It really is about time.

 

[Jocario Zero]

Yes! A new direct...and it will be the middle of the night again in germany. Well, i guess i have to wait until i wake up at 4 am even though i don't need to until 5.30 but i'm doing it anyway because my sleep patterns are as functional as Brawls Online-mode.

I'm hoping for a release date for Banjo-Kazooie and of course a Switch-port of Xenoblade X. I don't think we will get anything for Fighter 4 but who knows?

 

[jahkzheng]

Nope, they're still Heart-to-Hearts.



That was MikuMikuDance. I only really started using it, but (somewhat) figuring it out wasn't that terribly hard since I have a bit of experience with modding Brawl back in the day.

Huh, cool. Nice work. Funnily enough, I also was into the Brawl nodding scene somewhat but was in at the very early stage and got out when it was getting complicated for me, heh. Never did play around with actual models. Just literally scratched the surface with texture edits.

But yeah, seems program does a nice job and you said it was really easy. Was thinking of playing around in blender for art references but a program that's competitive in terms of its ease of posting and such had my interest. I dont have either program but have been thinking about trying out these sorts of things.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

OH. MY. GOD.

SNK/ELMA DUAL REVEAL LETS ****IN GOOOOOO

Or X switch port. That is fine too

 

[Aetheri]

OH. MY. GOD.

SNK/ELMA DUAL REVEAL LETS ****IN GOOOOOO

Or X switch port. That is fine too

Splain cus I dunt gettit :/

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Splain cus I dunt gettit :/

Soraya retweeted the announcement. Last time she retweeted a direct thing it was the Nov 1 Smash one with the pass reveal + Rex Mii costume

She SAYS not to look too deeply into her retweets but I don’t buy that. Why? Cause that Instagram guy who worked at Nintendo who posted the pic of the Kirby Nendoroid and a DQ shield replica? And he said it was “JUST a hobby” and not to read too much into it? Yeah look how that panned out

 

[jahkzheng]

Yeah, was gonna say that Saga retweeted the direct announcement... which implies if nothing else there will be monolith news

Saga is Takahashi's wife. They've worked on the xeno series together since the beginning... if that wasnt known.

 

[Megadoomer]

Soraya retweeted the announcement. Last time she retweeted a direct thing it was the Nov 1 Smash one with the pass reveal + Rex Mii costume

She SAYS not to look too deeply into her retweets but I don’t buy that. Why? Cause that Instagram guy who worked at Nintendo who posted the pic of the Kirby Nendoroid and a DQ shield replica? And he said it was “JUST a hobby” and not to read too much into it? Yeah look how that panned out

She also retweeted a Smash presentation during the lead-up to Smash for Wii U/3DS, which got people excited and made them expect Shulk. It turned out that it was the reveal of Robin and Lucina.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

She also retweeted a Smash presentation during the lead-up to Smash for Wii U/3DS, which got people excited and made them expect Shulk. It turned out that it was the reveal of Robin and Lucina.

Did she retweet the actual Shulk reveal announcement direct (which was JP only)?

Also she worked on F-Zero X, which explains Captain Falcon’s presence in that trailer

 

[Megadoomer]

Did she retweet the actual Shulk reveal announcement direct (which was JP only)?

Also she worked on F-Zero X, which explains Captain Falcon’s presence in that trailer

Possibly - that direct came out of nowhere for me, so I don't recall any of the build-up to it.

I wasn't aware that she worked on F-Zero X, but I just don't want this to lead to the sort of thing that caused Sakurai to become less active on Twitter (or at least why he doesn't talk as often about what games he's playing). Every time he'd mention a game, people automatically jumped to the conclusion that he had to be playing it for reasons relating to Smash Bros., as opposed to him just enjoying video games in general.

It would be great if we got Elma in Smash, a Xenoblade Chronicles X re-release or sequel, or a new F-Zero game, though.