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Elements and Attributes Mafia - Game Over!

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So Foxy and Gheb aren't back yet. Either we have an abductor out there... or I don't even know what's up. AM, any roles you know of that can keep one's own layer slot out for more then one day besides abductor? Or maybe it was a jan?
 
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Could it possibly be a trigger? Like we have to lynch a certain person for them to come back? It's very clear that at least one thing is keeping them there, and I'm of the opinion that one of them is scum.

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If there is a scummer there and it's only one of them, form what I've read Gheb is likely it. I think Kantrip was being legit in that. The fact remains that they possibly became lovers and got Janned, so they might actually be dead and not just missing, although the fact that there was no kill makes me wonder.
Swords, what night did you delay the kill on AM?
 
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Orboknown said:
So Foxy and Gheb aren't back yet. Either we have an abductor out there... or I don't even know what's up. AM, any roles you know of that can keep one's own layer slot out for more then one day besides abductor? Or maybe it was a jan?
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The latter is a very distinct possibility. Given Kantrip's flavor, there's a really decent chance of him actually being a 50/50 vig that jans when he shoots. A neighborhood/lovers/masons/whatever those guys are that can remove themselves from the game for two cycles of phases seems absolutely ********. The only other role I've heard of that did something like this was my role back in UTrick'd1, where I came back after two phases as the alignment of what killed me, but I'd be surprised if they had that on top of communication and apparently another action. My guess is they were janned at this point.
 
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EBWOP: I'm not even 50% certain on that though, so we'll see. At this point, given that we know nothing about Kantrip's role and we know nothing of the neighborhood other than that they're a neighborhood and they received one extra ability after neighborizing, all I've got is pure speculation.
 
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What do you make of the lack of kill last night and the fact that swords protect-delay thing still has you alive?(if you were targetted N2 as I recall then you should have died last night correct?)
 
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Orboknown said:
If there is a scummer there and it's only one of them, form what I've read Gheb is likely it. I think Kantrip was being legit in that. The fact remains that they possibly became lovers and got Janned, so they might actually be dead and not just missing, although the fact that there was no kill makes me wonder.
Swords, what night did you delay the kill on AM?
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Night 1 & 2.

Although I don't know if I "delayed" anything. You seem to be under the impression that I know that I delayed something when in fact I do not.
 
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Right, I thought the consensus was that scum has targetted AM and your delay was the reason for the N2 lack of kill.
 
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The consensus was that we don't know what the **** happened Night 2. AM didn't receive my power so there's a good chance that my action failed for whatever reason. Also scum targeting AM Night 2 when it was more or less implied that he was going to be swarmed with protectives throws another wench in the clogs that we can't explain.
 
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Ryu, while I know the inactivity is extremely frustrating, you need to go look somewhere else. Seriously. There is little I can do about it, and I'm sure the other two might be experiencing something similar. I am not coasting. I have little clue as to what has happened since the beginning of D2 and only occasionally pop in the thread to skim what's happening. You will gain absolutely nothing from lynching us when we will get replaced or modkilled. If neither, well woop de doo. Play the game with the players that are here. It's unlikely that both of the other inactives are also scum. Maybe one. But it's highly probable it's within the actives. Put on your brain cap and play the game.

In fact, I'll go post right now I'll need a replacement and I'll forward my PM and everything.
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AM/Swords, bolded a scumslip from Hando?
 
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LOL, funny catch. I wouldn't say it's 100% damning, because he could have meant that both of the other inactives are also scum with each other. I would say it's a possibility though.

Tbh I'll rather wait until everyone has claimed before I get too deep into this discussion.
 
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I attempted to target Sword, with the intention of settling in my mind if one of he and you are scum. Obviously this was with the hope that I wouldn't be stopped. Wasn't expecting him to target Ryu either.
 
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Aggressive Mediation said:
The latter is a very distinct possibility. Given Kantrip's flavor, there's a really decent chance of him actually being a 50/50 vig that jans when he shoots. A neighborhood/lovers/masons/whatever those guys are that can remove themselves from the game for two cycles of phases seems absolutely ********. The only other role I've heard of that did something like this was my role back in UTrick'd1, where I came back after two phases as the alignment of what killed me, but I'd be surprised if they had that on top of communication and apparently another action. My guess is they were janned at this point.
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Personally I don't think they are dead though. Gova has them as "alive" in the OP and it simply said that they went missing. If they were jan'd I'll kind of be expecting to see something like "Gheb, ??? died during the Night!" a la Pulp Fiction. Or is that not how jans work?

I'm kind of confused about what we're even looking f or tbh. I thought that for sure we would be looking for a third mafia after Kantrip's flip, but with Gheb and Foxy still being missing I'm not sure. Two indies sounds absolutely ********. So I'm thinking maybe a third mafia who can abduct. This would explain where Night 2's Night kill went. Like maybe the final mafia member choose to abduct Foxy and Gheb instead of killing? This doesn't explain where Night 3's kill went, but that could be explained by roleblock/doc maybe.

Thoughts?

Also AM what did you do last Night?
 
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