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Edge-Guarding Tier List?

CloneHat

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Why is everyone making these tier lists!?!?!?!?!

We already have ONE that's supposed to encompass all of these things!
 

INSANE CARZY GUY

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Really As long as they can all edge gaurd well enough not to have serious problems then they are about equal really most people can edge gaurd and gimp pretty well I mean with good prediction on 2nd jumps and junk f-throw to air move as most people *****.
 

Nø Ca$h

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i forgot jiggs and peach.

sheik (kinda like marth with needles, dsmash, and a sex kick)
marth (answer to everything)
peach (watch armada)
fox/falco (cant decide... now that i think about it)
jiggs (over rated, but still mad good)
doc (cape and bair. too good lol)
 

KirbyKaze

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Sheik
Marth
Fox
Falco
Puff

And then some clusterflock of other characters.

Pikachu, Peach are pretty gay.

Falcon can be pretty gay. ICs can be pretty gay. Ganon can be pretty gay. Doc too.

Then I dunno.
 

Doc King

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1. Sheik
2/3. Fox/Doc
4. Ganon
5. Peach
6. Marf
7. Falco

This might work for a start.
 

Composeur

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Puff
Sheik
Marth
Peach

Then i don´t care :p
I totally agree. I'm shocked that so many people here obviously haven't seen all of Hbox's matches. He proves single-handedly that he can do almost anything to you once you're off the stage.

Sheik has needes, she's stupid fast, has that enormous bair range, and, in the air, two fast, powerful kill hits, forward and up. Look at Amsah's edgeguarding.

Marth: just watch m2k vids. Marth's sword can cover so many options at once.

Peach: just watch Armada vids. If Peach were faster or had a better edge-recovery game, she might be better up. But Armada does a lot with what he does have. The turnips and floating are just instant death to most characters in the wrong positions.
 

KirbyKaze

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Fox and Falco are both better at it than Peach.

Their Bairs, ability to ledgehop, and (shine) spikes are better than everything Peach has in her edgeguarding arsenal.

Falco's lasers are amazing vs some recoveries.
 

Nygma

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Jigglypuff
Marth
Sheik
Fox

Thats the tier list.

I definitely think jigs and marth are top two

Jigglypuff just has to go out there and throw out any old aerial. its stupid easy and if you can rising pound its literally....a joke half of the time. just hit them. lol

Marth has so much creativity off stage and when near the edge that its hilarious and awesome. He literally can use....ANY move....in theory.

Fox just goes out there and hits shine or bair and he wins.
 

BigWenz

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Jigglypuff
Marth
Sheik
Fox

Thats the tier list.

I definitely think jigs and marth are top two

Jigglypuff just has to go out there and throw out any old aerial. its stupid easy and if you can rising pound its literally....a joke half of the time. just hit them. lol

Marth has so much creativity off stage and when near the edge that its hilarious and awesome. He literally can use....ANY move....in theory.

Fox just goes out there and hits shine or bair and he wins.
im ok with this but i would add doc right around fox cause the cape + bair ***** like everyones recovery. (minus jiggs)
 

Nygma

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The Ice Climbers can edge guard? You mean all the 4 people in the entire world that play them?

They have their f smash and d smash which are amazing because they hit below the stage like Marths Fsmash but other than that? Not much. They just get a grab and **** you. thats ice climbers.
 

PB&J

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icys edge guard is great actually..totally forgot, but i dont care..i like when stuff gets ignored in the community then people complain about it later
 

KirbyKaze

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IC have good edgeguarding but not as good as puff marth sheik fox falco

they don't have ledgehop sex kick or the same ability to fly out and **** people

sword is better than hammers

they have a lot of tricks for covering multiple options though; they beast vs a lot of low recoveries

and they punish sheik's poof really hard (not as hard as another sheik or puff though)
 

Doc King

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OK, I made up this list and looked at the characters gimping options. I just want to see if you guys agree with this list or not or if I should make changes to it.

Top
1. Ganon
2. Sheik
3. Pika
4. Puff
5. Mewtwo
6. Fox
7. Yoshi
8. Doc
9. Mario
10. Peach
11. Marf
12. Pichu

High
13. Kirby
14. Y. Link
15. Link
16. Falcon
17. Falco
18. Roy

Middle
19. Bowser
20. Luigi
21. Samus
22. Ice Climbers
23. Ness

Low
24. Mr. G&W
25. DK
26. Zelda
 

Shadow Huan

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so he can recover big whup. still doesnt mean hes top for edgeguarding.
you obviously didn't understand what i meant. But to be fair, when u say edgeguarding are you taking offstage gimping into account? If not then yeah mewtwo is meh. But if gimping is included long recovery = "lol i can jump out here and hit you, then recover no problem while you die". In that respect mewtwo is a lot like jiggs and peach. Get what i mean?
 

GroovyGreenHat

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Er... Doc King, I disagree. There's a lot that needs some fixing, dude. For example, how is Mewtwo better than, say Y.Link? YL has projectiles, a great sex kick, perfectly fine recovery, and a wall jump. Don't get me wrong, Mewtwo certainly isn't worthless when it comes to edgeguarding, but what does he have besides DSmash, Shadow Ball, and well-placed Bairs?
 

Shadow Huan

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Er... Doc King, I disagree. There's a lot that needs some fixing, dude. For example, how is Mewtwo better than, say Y.Link? YL has projectiles, a great sex kick, perfectly fine recovery, and a wall jump. Don't get me wrong, Mewtwo certainly isn't worthless when it comes to edgeguarding, but what does he have besides DSmash, Shadow Ball, and well-placed Bairs?
dair, uair, nair, fsmash (yes it can be used to edgeguard)... Even the ftilt is sometimes usable. Oh and don't forget SUNC and ledge stalling. Mewtwo has lots of ways to creativly keep most chars from recovering. That being said i agree with y.link prob being better than m2. Also ganondorf is top 3 easy. I don't think he's the best tho. Jiggs or marth maybe. Peach is high up there too.
 

a nub

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OK, I made up this list and looked at the characters gimping options. I just want to see if you guys agree with this list or not or if I should make changes to it.

Top
1. Ganon
2. Sheik
3. Pika
4. Puff
5. Mewtwo
6. Fox
7. Yoshi
8. Doc
9. Mario
10. Peach
11. Marf
12. Pichu

High
13. Kirby
14. Y. Link
15. Link
16. Falcon
17. Falco
18. Roy

Middle
19. Bowser
20. Luigi
21. Samus
22. Ice Climbers
23. Ness

Low
24. Mr. G&W
25. DK
26. Zelda
Stopped reading as soon as I saw ganon at the top
 

Geist

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Stopped reading as soon as I saw ganon at the top
I stopped around "okay I made up this list"

GaW can actually edgeguard like a boss
Every one of his moves stays out forever
His Bair is super disjointed and gimpy, and lasts for years
Parachute is enormous
Dtilt acts like Marth's when characters recover low
Pan spike loool

But in all honesty theres a huge drop after the top few.
Sheik
Puff
Marth
Spacies
Peach
mehh
 

Doc King

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Does any1 think I should switch Y. Link with Kirby or something and put him at the top?
 
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