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ECRC#2= VGBootCamp-"BTYF" - Laurel, MD 3/28 + 29, Pre-reg is Over, Sign your Waivers!
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thesage
Smash Hero
Nein, tu yest scata.
TheTantalus
Smash Hero
no inui genes here! We started to try to apply inui logic to why I can beat K9 but not Seagull, (both wolf), and K9 can beat seagull, but seagull beats me. Never ending circle??? So then we stopped immediately
Jesusdragon737
Smash Cadet
I'm planning on coming. And bringing a few friends.
bigman40
Smash Master
Idk if you saw the post GIMS, but if my friends and I get a ride up to this, then you'll get about 2-3 Wiis, and 1-2 TVs
Overswarm
is laughing at you
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Did I mention I have a shirt covered with names that people sign?
If I beat you, I sign your name in Orange (winner's bracket), black (loser's bracket), purple (grand championships), green (money match), or red (you beat me). It's a new shirt so there aren't many names on it, but if I'm lucky enough to get a ride, I'm the guy with the crazy shirt and the NES hat ^_^
If I beat you, I sign your name in Orange (winner's bracket), black (loser's bracket), purple (grand championships), green (money match), or red (you beat me). It's a new shirt so there aren't many names on it, but if I'm lucky enough to get a ride, I'm the guy with the crazy shirt and the NES hat ^_^
Jesusdragon737
Smash Cadet
Ok, I tried searching for a thread discussing the general tourney rules, but search wasn't really working. Why is it that in the first round, all the characters are chosen by blind pick? I mean, you practice hard with one character, why would you throw all that out of the window by randomly choosing your character?
Also, it is double elimination, correct?
Also, it is double elimination, correct?
toasty
Smash Hero
Simple misunderstanding...
Blind Pick doesn't mean random.
It means that you are using a predetermined character for the first round, instead of sitting down with your opponent, and then choosing yours first and then he sees who you picked, and silently says "oh ****, he would **** who I was GOING to pick, let me use THIS character instead, I'll have an easier time" which gives him an unfair advantage of knowing who you're using before you know who he is using.
So, if this were to be enforced properly, there will be one neutral bystander to whom both of you will whisper your character choice and it falls on the integrity of that bystander to call you out if the character you choose first round is not the one you just told him you were going to use.
Regarding double elimination:
This is an event whose design caters to a large number of entrants.
Typically in this situation [and I didn't read through the rules to see if it was discussed or not], the players are broken up into pools. Let's pretend here...
128 people enter the singles tournament.
You break the people up into 16 pools of 8 people each and after all 8 people have played each other in their respective pool the top 2 from each pool advance since most efficient brackets for large scale tournaments fit the 32-person model.
THEN you do the double elimination bracket with those 32 people.
Jesusdragon737
Smash Cadet
Oh ok. That makes a lot more sense than choosing random characters. Also, double elimination from the start would make for a lengthy tourney. Thanks for that info.
TheTantalus
Smash Hero
I will be bringing a wii and a tv.
bigman40
Smash Master
GIMS, I hope you at least expect 300 people. I certainly don't want to be up in MD and the tourney fails like CoT4 just did.
SOVAman
Smash Hero
You most likely already discussed this but...
Why is D3's standing infinate banned and not ic's. People say it takes more "skill" but who cares an infinite is an infinite no matter what skill level. If you ban one infinite shouldn't you ban them all isn't that like "common sense?" You are most likely going to post CoT4 and other big tourneys use that rule but, it is still stupid. either ban NONE or ban ALL.
Why is D3's standing infinate banned and not ic's. People say it takes more "skill" but who cares an infinite is an infinite no matter what skill level. If you ban one infinite shouldn't you ban them all isn't that like "common sense?" You are most likely going to post CoT4 and other big tourneys use that rule but, it is still stupid. either ban NONE or ban ALL.
Lobos
Smash Master
How many ICs do come to tourneys in md anyways?
SOVAman
Smash Hero
It shouldn't really matter an infinite is an infinite and if you ban one ban them all
GimR
GimR, Co-Founder of VGBootCamp
That's just bad logic man. First off, D3 has a longer grab, and a quicker grab than Ice climbers.
Second, Ice climbers need both Popo and Nana standing next to eachother to pull infinites off.
Third, D3's chains are easier to do.
4th, if Icies chain grabs aren't timed perfectly, you can mash out of them
I'm not banning all infinites. No more arguing
Shinku
Smash Champion
a million xD
chillindude829
Smash Master
might come to this, idk yet.
take lylat off neutral immediately
take lylat off neutral immediately
toasty
Smash Hero
I think they're trying out stage striking, Chillin, so there won't be "random" select from the neutrals anymore...but it's only effective with more neutrals than the three main ones
chillindude829
Smash Master
oh ok. lylat is still less neutral than like, delfino or halberd imo
toasty
Smash Hero
agreed. just because they change and have parts with walk-off edges while Lylat is based on a "neutral looking" design doesn't make Delfino/Halberd not-so-neutral and Lylat more-so. Plus the background of Lylat trips a LOT of people out [myself included 
] and not to mention the movement of the stage. At least the other two stages have predictable changes...Lylat can screw over just about anyone no matter how precise they are simply because it tilted.
] and not to mention the movement of the stage. At least the other two stages have predictable changes...Lylat can screw over just about anyone no matter how precise they are simply because it tilted.
ChaosKnight
Smash Master
ECR2 ?! good **** GIMR :O
toasty
Smash Hero
toasty's chances of attending just went up....to 19%.........from 18%
>_>
oh and per usual, GIMR/aposl, when I get there, will there be a way for me to make nachos? I may or may not sell them depending on how many friendlies I wanna play, but I'm definitely making some free ones for the TOs ^_^
>_>
oh and per usual, GIMR/aposl, when I get there, will there be a way for me to make nachos? I may or may not sell them depending on how many friendlies I wanna play, but I'm definitely making some free ones for the TOs ^_^
Mr. Escalator
G&W Guru
Just reminding you guys that I'm going!
TheTantalus
Smash Hero
Honestly from my perspective, this should be the neutral stage list:
Smashville
Final Destination
Battlefield
Yoshi's Island
Halberd
also another reminder to add me to the front page list for a tv and a wii.
Also, when i spoke with HolyNightmare, he said that the canada group would be at anything ECRC2 related. So I would expect them here.
Smashville
Final Destination
Battlefield
Yoshi's Island
Halberd
also another reminder to add me to the front page list for a tv and a wii.
Also, when i spoke with HolyNightmare, he said that the canada group would be at anything ECRC2 related. So I would expect them here.
toasty
Smash Hero
If I can't go and other SoVa kids can go, I will gladly donate my 2 small TVs [people liked them fine at Chu's...tiny ugly TVs but the quality is sick for both] and even......................................my Wii. @_@
edit: Halberd over Pokemon Stadium???
editedit: don't flame me, I never put much thought into Poke, so if there's dumb stuff I don't know, please be kind and inform me
edit: Halberd over Pokemon Stadium???
editedit: don't flame me, I never put much thought into Poke, so if there's dumb stuff I don't know, please be kind and inform me
ChaosKnight
Smash Master
Lol ... yes it will if it gets enough hype :/
SOVAman
Smash Hero
.. .
forute
Smash Ace
let toasty make nachos 'cause I wanna eat them!!! =F
toasty
Smash Hero
OS NO JOHNS [wait, I'm not even confirmed.................****]
but for real, with enough dedication and especially COOPERATION this tournament will run pretty well.
Maybe VGB Staff or whoever they get to help them (*raises hand*) can be assigned to the several pools surrounding their own to occasionally check on the status and enforce the "no friendlies until pools are done" rule [hah, hope there is one, if not, there should be]
I really don't remember much from the first post and I'm far too lazy to search it [or the whole thread] so pardon me if it's already been discussed...but...there should be a penalty in the form of pools scoring or stock loss or whatever...something that actually has an effect on a person's standing in the tournament if they are playing friendlies during pools but ONLY if those friendlies are actually holding up potential tourney matches. That's a bit of a gray area, but I'm sure TOs can use their better judgment
People need to realize the amazing reward of playing tourney matches on time...
"awww but we never get to play friendlies, tourney matches always get in the way"
...
if you finish the tournament quickly [which is entirely possible if you're strict enough about it, in a nice way] there will be TONNNS of time for uninterrupted friendlies! AND crews!!! =D
hahahaha Steven, sure...thanks for buying some last time even though you didn't have much of an appetite. hopefully you won't be sick at this tourney
but for real, with enough dedication and especially COOPERATION this tournament will run pretty well.
Maybe VGB Staff or whoever they get to help them (*raises hand*) can be assigned to the several pools surrounding their own to occasionally check on the status and enforce the "no friendlies until pools are done" rule [hah, hope there is one, if not, there should be]
I really don't remember much from the first post and I'm far too lazy to search it [or the whole thread] so pardon me if it's already been discussed...but...there should be a penalty in the form of pools scoring or stock loss or whatever...something that actually has an effect on a person's standing in the tournament if they are playing friendlies during pools but ONLY if those friendlies are actually holding up potential tourney matches. That's a bit of a gray area, but I'm sure TOs can use their better judgment
People need to realize the amazing reward of playing tourney matches on time...
"awww but we never get to play friendlies, tourney matches always get in the way"
...
if you finish the tournament quickly [which is entirely possible if you're strict enough about it, in a nice way
] there will be TONNNS of time for uninterrupted friendlies! AND crews!!! =Dhahahaha Steven, sure...thanks for buying some last time even though you didn't have much of an appetite. hopefully you won't be sick at this tourney
ChaosKnight
Smash Master
dude ive already offered to help and toasty you can prolly help so can Greg,inui,alex strife, plank, i'll help to because im a douche IRL only if i want to be but this will be run WELL and any other tourney host that offers to make this go really fast.. :x
forute
Smash Ace
I'm never gonna get sick again, I already decided]hahahaha Steven, sure...thanks for buying some last time even though you didn't have much of an appetite. hopefully you won't be sick at this tourney
Let it be known I am ready for nachos
toasty
Smash Hero
@ OS : ooh....sadness
also, another SUGGESTION I forgot to add onto the "no friendlies during pools" rule. I have a very important rule that can be a bit flexible depending on the event, because this can become a huge problem too:
"NO MONEY MATCHES UNTIL THE TOURNAMENT [in this case, just pools] IS FINISHED."
Seriously...people use this an excuse so often and it takes up sooo much time because it's not a friendly where it's just one match, it's a set and that can take as long as 25-30 minutes in some cases....FOR ONE SET.
and obviously, neither of my suggestions are applicable if pools haven't even started...
lastly: people used to just turn off Gamecubes when someone wouldn't listen to the TOs and stop their friendlies, but I saw someone mention in the CoT4 thread that with Wiis it's a lot more of a hassle to restart everything, so ...simple solution: just turn off/unplug the TV and/or just take out the AV cords and wait til they quit the match.
also, another SUGGESTION I forgot to add onto the "no friendlies during pools" rule. I have a very important rule that can be a bit flexible depending on the event, because this can become a huge problem too:
"NO MONEY MATCHES UNTIL THE TOURNAMENT [in this case, just pools] IS FINISHED."
Seriously...people use this an excuse so often and it takes up sooo much time because it's not a friendly where it's just one match, it's a set and that can take as long as 25-30 minutes in some cases....FOR ONE SET.
and obviously, neither of my suggestions are applicable if pools haven't even started...
lastly: people used to just turn off Gamecubes when someone wouldn't listen to the TOs and stop their friendlies, but I saw someone mention in the CoT4 thread that with Wiis it's a lot more of a hassle to restart everything, so ...simple solution: just turn off/unplug the TV and/or just take out the AV cords and wait til they quit the match.
SOVAman
Smash Hero
2 day boooo. I can't go to a 2 day event I have school the next day at like 6:30 and that is a waste of my weekend too. (I am not poyo I have more to life then smash)
If I go (1 day) I have a TV and wii
If I go (1 day) I have a TV and wii
toasty
Smash Hero
I really hope it doesn't become a 2 day event
also kids, don't jump to conclusions: it hasn't been decided that it's 2 days long. it just MIGHT be.
ECRC C3 was a really great event and people seemed to get over the fact that they didn't have pools [which is why it ended up finishing on time]...that might have to be a last resort, though I'd much rather prefer to keep pools in
gah there better be at least 50 setups...like absolute minimum if you really want this to run on time as planned. but even then there should be more
GIMR how many setups do you think the space can accommodate? keeping in mind that you would need 2-4 chairs per setup...and then the outlets/power strips/extension cords etc
also kids, don't jump to conclusions: it hasn't been decided that it's 2 days long. it just MIGHT be.
ECRC C3 was a really great event and people seemed to get over the fact that they didn't have pools [which is why it ended up finishing on time]...that might have to be a last resort, though I'd much rather prefer to keep pools in
gah there better be at least 50 setups...like absolute minimum if you really want this to run on time as planned. but even then there should be more
GIMR how many setups do you think the space can accommodate? keeping in mind that you would need 2-4 chairs per setup...and then the outlets/power strips/extension cords etc
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