E3 Countdown- Dawn of a New Day

[Wunderwaft]

E3's lined up nicely for me this year. I normally don't watch MS but with Sony not being there this year and MS increasingly showing more stuff that I'll buy for other consoles, I guess I'll watch them.

As for Smash, I'm hoping for two characters but wouldn't be surprised if we got only one. For Nintendo in general, the rest of the year from them is already good, so I'm hoping for some surprises for 2020 and Retro to finally show up.

Retro has to show the project that they were working on. E3 is gonna be make it or break it for this game that they were working on for so long..

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Retro has to show the project that they were working on. E3 is gonna be make it or break it for this game that they were working on for so long..

Meanwhile, the implication of Suda 51 showing something off at E3 is getting stronger.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...s_is_being_ported_to_the_playstation_4_and_pc

 

[Lamperouge]

I'm keeping my expectations low for Nintendo's showing this year, given how Smash Bros took up the bulk of the Direct last time. They might end up doing the same for Pokemon or something.

 

[Deleted member]

If they were going to announce two of the DLC characters in a near-E3 Smash direct (like last time), who would you want or expect to see revealed?

It'd never happen but if Crash and a Rhythm Heaven character both got revealed and at the same time I'd EXPLODE.

Hoenstly someone like Mettaton/Undyne would work.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

If they were going to announce two of the DLC characters in a near-E3 Smash direct (like last time), who would you want or expect to see revealed?

It'd never happen but if Crash and a Rhythm Heaven character both got revealed and at the same time I'd EXPLODE.

Anyone that hasn't been seen coming, if only to get at least one person to shut up. I just want the collapse of this forum community to be stopped at this point.

Probably some first-party, I guess, I don't know.

I'm keeping my expectations low for Nintendo's showing this year, given how Smash Bros took up the bulk of the Direct last time. They might end up doing the same for Pokemon or something.

Probably the case, seeing as Pokémon seemingly hasn't gotten any major news at all this month.

 

[Deleted member]

Ignoring potential deconfirmations, who do you all think could be the biggest bombshell DLC newcomer announcement at E3?

I personally want Master Chief, and it would be great to see that alongside Halo Infinite, but some say he's deconfirmed, so I'm just crossing my fingers at this point.

Definitally an Undertale/deltarune rep. No one would expect it(especially considering only Deltarune is on the switch)

 

[Xelrog]

Hoenstly someone like Mettaton/Undyne would work.

There is absolutely zero chance that an Undertale character getting in would not be Sans or Frisk.

 

[Deleted member]

Trying to keep it low but here are my E3 hopes (no particular order):

• Wario Land
• Dr. Mario
• Bayonetta 3
• Luigi's Mansion 3
• Rare Replay Switch
• Hype Smash DLC character(s)
• F-Zero
• Metroid Prime Trilogy
• Shantae 5
• Punch-Out!!
• Pokémon Sword & Shield

Probably not much will come true

Honestly I'm only hoping for a Dlc reveal, and MAYBE Pokemon, but I don't really care that much

 

[Deleted member]

There is absolutely zero chance that an Undertale character getting in would not be Sans or Frisk.

Never say nothing is impossible with Nintendo.

 

[Xelrog]

Never say nothing is impossible with Nintendo.

You're only deluding yourself if you think something that is both completely unprecedented and a terrible business decision has any chance of happening. If you truly, honestly believe a world exists where Luigi gets into an "all star" roster and Mario doesn't, then you obviously have no idea how this all works.

 

[Wario Bros.]

I'm starting to question if we will actually get 2 characters at E3.

According to Sakurai, the reason Lucas, Roy, and Ryu were released together was because the Nintendo 3DS limited the total amount of updates a game could receive (likely the same reason Corrin and Bayonetta were released together too).

But of course only time will tell.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I'm starting to question if we will actually get 2 characters at E3.

According to Sakurai, the reason Lucas, Roy, and Ryu were released together was because the Nintendo 3DS limited the total amount of updates a game could receive (likely the same reason Corrin and Bayonetta were released together too).

But of course only time will tell.

On the flipside, there is a deadline of February for the pass itself next year, so all characters must be released by then. Nearly half of the year is done and only one character's out.

No more ballot in the foreseeable future's a bummer though. All those suggestions that were wasted on anime and cartoon characters, I don't even...

 

[Deleted member]

I'm starting to question if we will actually get 2 characters at E3.

According to Sakurai, the reason Lucas, Roy, and Ryu were released together was because the Nintendo 3DS limited the total amount of updates a game could receive (likely the same reason Corrin and Bayonetta were released together too).

But of course only time will tell.

There's a feeling I got where if they do 2 reveals at E3, we're going to be in for a rougher drought of DLC info for the 4th and 5th Fighter Packs.

The whole Brave fiasco has been going on for over half a year now, but at least we got a codename to theorize on for the time being. Meanwhile, we have 0 info on fighters 4 and 5, and we only know that the 3rd Fighter Pack is being worked on alongside the 2nd. If both of them are revealed and released on the same day, we're probably going to be in for at least 4 months of nothing but leaks with little to no credibility behind them.

Other than that, it's probably not going to be on Nintendo's E3 show, but I wonder if Rocksteady finally has something to show at E3. I've only heard they're working on a new project about a year ago, and there hasn't really been any other news since.

 

[Xelrog]

Meanwhile, we have 0 info on fighters 4 and 5, and we only know that the 3rd Fighter Pack is being worked on alongside the 2nd. If both of them are revealed and released on the same day, we're probably going to be in for at least 4 months of nothing but leaks with little to no credibility behind them.

I wouldn't expect them both to be released at the same time. That wouldn't be in the game's best $$$ interests. They want to space them out such that people don't lose interest in the product.

I expect the identities of 2 and 3 to be revealed. 2 will drop at or shortly after E3 while 3 will just have an identity and maybe a trailer, a la Plant's many-months-early reveal.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I'm expecting Edrick after the show and the 3rd character to come in October.

But my gut feeling's never been good at E3 predictions.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm expecting maybe 2 fighter announcements, but Nintendo always surprises good or bad.

 

[Door Key Pig]

There's a 16 month period between the Fighter's Pass announcement and its expected finishing deadline. Assuming the last one is announced months before its release, which could be as late as the deadline month, we're essentially half way through the period and we've still only got one character known. And E3 is prime for such big announcements, especially if they're announcing some of the crazier ones first (maybe like the base game, they'd generate the most interest by showing off the most impressive ones first?). Plus there was that note from Skaurai saying they worked on fighter 2 and 3 alongside Joker, apparently.

Sure they could space out the reveals, but they could also actually give us a good idea of the Fighter's Pass content by now? Plus they may not be releasing at the same time anyway, so they'll still get their focus as one releases months after the other.

I just wonder if there'd be space to do two trailers if it's truly just the Nintendo direct at E3 this year. Would we get the two trailers without Sakurai's DIRECT commentary and other stuff like more Mii costumes? Only time will tell I suppose.

 

[OnyanRings]

Beard and bird *clap clap clap* Bear and bird *clap clap clap*

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Pokemon Direct has been announced for the 5th of June.

Well, there goes any fears of the main E3 Direct being nothing but Pokemon. I guess that's Game Freak and TPC asserting their dominance over the IP again.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

WatchMojo posted their top 10 predictions.

Spoiler

10. The return of Dino Crisis
9. Reggie's special appearance
8. Rocksteady Studios new DC game
7. Starfield trailer
6. xCloud launch date
5. Halo: Infinite gameplay reveal
4. Square Enix's Avengers game
3. Nintendo announces two Super Smash Bros. Ultimate DLC characters
2. Final Fantasy VII remake gets a release
1. Cyberpunk 2077 gets a 2020 release date

Honorable Mentions: "Rare Replay" Announced for the Nintendo Switch, Mother 3 port release

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Pokemon Direct has been announced for the 5th of June.

Well, there goes any fears of the main E3 Direct being nothing but Pokemon. I guess that's Game Freak and TPC asserting their dominance over the IP again.

At this rate the only things left now are Animal Crossing and maybe Luigi's Mansion 3. Really makes me wonder how many surprises they're saving up for this.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

At this rate the only things left now are Animal Crossing and maybe Luigi's Mansion 3. Really makes me wonder how many surprises they're saving up for this.

30 minute talk about Three Houses?

 

[Opossum]

Yeah, a lot of people seem to forget just how much there is left to cover for Three Houses, especially taking the leaks into account. I'm expecting a final big trailer to push the game, plus substantial Treehouse Live coverage.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I doubt they'd want new E3 info to just be about 3 Houses...Maybe 10 minutes at most.

 

[Opossum]

I doubt they'd want new E3 info to just be about 3 Houses...Maybe 10 minutes at most.

Yeah, ten minutes sounds about right. I'm kind of expecting a full on story trailer.

Basically, notable games that we know exist that we'll probably see:

Fire Emblem: Three Houses
Luigi's Mansion 3
Animal Crossing
Astral Chain
Diablo Ex Machina
Maaaaaybe another look at the Star Link DLC
Link's Awakening remake
Super Mario Maker 2

I don't think we'll see Prime 4 or Bayonetta 3. I don't remember when Ultimate Alliance comes out so that may or may not be there. I'm predicting we'll see a Pikmin 3 port and MAYBE the Prime Trilogy ports here, too. Plus one or two new announcements.

 

[Deleted member]

You're only deluding yourself if you think something that is both completely unprecedented and a terrible business decision has any chance of happening. If you truly, honestly believe a world exists where Luigi gets into an "all star" roster and Mario doesn't, then you obviously have no idea how this all works.

I ****ed up the spelling. I was trying to say that trying to guess what Nintendo will do is frankly impossible(at least accuratly), and we should wait for official sources before anything else.


On a different note, I feel that Sans isn't the best choice for a Undertale Dlc figher, because his playstyle(and motivations) would have to revolve around Papyrus in some way(he only fights you in genocide, and if you kill Papyrus, he doesn't reappear until the end of the game)

 

[Wario Bros.]

Yeah, ten minutes sounds about right. I'm kind of expecting a full on story trailer.

Basically, notable games that we know exist that we'll probably see:

Fire Emblem: Three Houses
Luigi's Mansion 3
Animal Crossing
Astral Chain
Diablo Ex Machina
Maaaaaybe another look at the Star Link DLC
Link's Awakening remake
Super Mario Maker 2

I don't think we'll see Prime 4 or Bayonetta 3. I don't remember when Ultimate Alliance comes out so that may or may not be there. I'm predicting we'll see a Pikmin 3 port and MAYBE the Prime Trilogy ports here, too. Plus one or two new announcements.

I could probably see Nintendo have a Mario Maker reveal at the tournament it's getting. But there's so much you listed and they still need time for new reveals (both 1st and 3rd party).

Of course they could save some stuff for the Treehouse.

 

[Xelrog]

On a different note, I feel that Sans isn't the best choice for a Undertale Dlc figher, because his playstyle(and motivations) would have to revolve around Papyrus in some way(he only fights you in genocide, and if you kill Papyrus, he doesn't reappear until the end of the game)

A Smash character doesn't need "motivations."

 

[Deleted member]

A Smash character doesn't need "motivations."

Not my point

 

[Door Key Pig]

If they do announce a Smash direct before it's too late, that'll give even more space for the direct. And even then, this being Nintendo, they could skip over talking about certain games anyway...

 

[Mogisthelioma]

Super Mario Maker 2

I'm not so certain. If we get SMM2 content at E3 it would be very minor. We just go a huuuge direct for it.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I'm not so certain. If we get SMM2 content at E3 it would be very minor. We just go a huuuge direct for it.

I'd say floor demo and if there's DLC coming for it that'll be seen.

 

[Opossum]

I'm not so certain. If we get SMM2 content at E3 it would be very minor. We just go a huuuge direct for it.

They still haven't announced the other special mode they're hiding. I'm banking on it being saved for E3.

 

[Door Key Pig]

They still haven't announced the other special mode they're hiding. I'm banking on it being saved for E3.

SUPER MARIO BROS 2 BAYBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 

[Mogisthelioma]

They still haven't announced the other special mode they're hiding. I'm banking on it being saved for E3.

Fair enough. I guess we could have another Treehouse showcase on it.

 

[Xelrog]

I think Mario Maker 2 is for a much bigger audience than Fire Emblem is. Fire Emblem is more comparable to Animal Crossing in terms of mass appeal in the West.

 

[Mogisthelioma]

I think Mario Maker 2 is for a much bigger audience than Fire Emblem is. Fire Emblem is more comparable to Animal Crossing in terms of mass appeal in the West.

I agree but for a different reason. Mario Maker 2 is basically doing what Smash Ultimate couldn't: It's visually providing us with all of the awesome upgrades from the previous game rather than mentioning them but not showing us. So I feel like SMM2 will have a bigger audience than FE3H, but only right now because it presentation (and marketing) has been so much better and more effective.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Oddly enough, Mario Maker 2 seems like two different games packaged into one.
One half Mario Maker 2 which inmproves the original 4 in numerous ways
one half Super Mario 3D World Maker

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Oddly enough, Mario Maker 2 seems like two different games packaged into one.
One half Mario Maker 2 which inmproves the original 4 in numerous ways
one half Super Mario 3D World Maker

Which annoys me, since they know that people want 3D World proper to be ported, so it ends up being a tease more than anything else.

 

[Gyrom8]

Speaking of Mario Maker 2, one of the speculated extra themes is Super Mario Bros 2. As an extra theme, it would be standing on its own, like 3D World is. I know 3D World being its own thing means many of its features (like clear pipes or the car) are not available in the older themes, but how does that work vice-versa? Like how many of the features available in regular themes are also available in 3D World?

I'm asking this because it would affect how well a Super Mario Bros 2 theme could stand on its own, without features from other games. I haven't played SMB2 in years, but does it have enough of its own features that it would be sufficient for an engaging level builder in its own right? SMB and SMB3 would be considerably more limited if they couldn't use features from other titles and I don't know whether the same is true for SMB2