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Event - E3 Invitational 2014 E3 2014 Rumor/Leak Discussion Thread

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RIDLEY is too SMALL

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Just learned something else. The leaker distinguished the 2 versions of the demo as the tourney version and the public version, meaning (obviously) that the tourney version with Little Mac, Mega Man, and unlockable Ridley will not be at Best Buy and will most likely be for some sort of publicity event (most likely E3 stuff, probably the invitational).
 

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In this case, what would be non E3 discussion concerning this? I'd like to be sure so as not to cause a problem for anyone, nor anyone gets in trouble. If this is for the E3 Best Buy/Smash Tourney, then all conversation concerning it should be allowed correct? Just wish to make sure.
Non-E3 related discussion would concern leaks and rumors that don't concern E3. For example, a leaked full roster would not be an E3 leak unless specified as such. Posted not related E3 leaks is off topic. Character discussion or game play speculation not pertaining to the posted leaks is also considered off-topic.

Anyways, it was just a reminder. The discussion has been mostly on topic and productive from what I can tell
 
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Just learned something else. The leaker distinguished the 2 versions of the demo as the tourney version and the public version, meaning (obviously) that the tourney version with Little Mac, Mega Man, and unlockable Ridley will not be at Best Buy and will most likely be for some sort of publicity event (most likely E3 stuff, probably the invitational).
That's what everyone assumed. Although I find it odd they wouldn't let Mega Man or Little Mac to the public when they are both very anticipated.
 
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That is what I mean though, why would they only add locked characters in a Demo now? Marketing strategies? Doesn't sound right to me.
The tourney is how Nintendo is demonstrating Smash 4. Using the tourney to show off characters would make sense and skyrocket the hype. The press would eat up the sudden explosion of fans freaking over Ridley.


Hell, each tier unlocking a newcomer as a reward would cause waves, and keep fans and the press buzzed over the tournament constantly.
 
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Just learned something else. The leaker distinguished the 2 versions of the demo as the tourney version and the public version, meaning (obviously) that the tourney version with Little Mac, Mega Man, and unlockable Ridley will not be at Best Buy and will most likely be for some sort of publicity event (most likely E3 stuff, probably the invitational).
Yeah, it's kind of a jerk move, to be honest, assuming this is true. Mega Man and Little Mac were so anticipated and got people hyped, but you don't let them be playable at Best Buy knowing that? Kinda silly considering they were among the most wanted characters. And if the Ridley thing is true too, that just adds insult to injury. I'm sure most people would want to play as those 3 more than characters like Mario and Pikachu. Sure, it could be a marketing thing for the E3 Invitational or whatever, but it's still kinda rude to the public in a way to deny them that experience just because they can't go to E3 themselves.
 

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I don't have any editing tools on my computer that could do this, but has anyone tried recoloring DK's fur using Photoshop or not to see if the black border is shown?
 

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What exactly do you want me to PS for you? I can zoom in or isolate the DK portraits I guess, but if you can inverse them wouldn't it be easier to grab it yourself mate?
 

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Well guys, this ridley debate isn't finished

take a look here:

Check ridley name rectangle then check the pit one and check back to ridley

The ridley one is off and someone pointed on the character discussion thread that the blue outline was outside the character box (you can see a grey line on the right of the blue outline).

Photoshop?
 

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What exactly do you want me to PS for you? I can zoom in or isolate the DK portraits I guess, but if you can inverse them wouldn't it be easier to grab it yourself mate?
I am not that great at this and Photo Shop does not work on my computer. Though if it is not too much to ask, could you use any editing software you have and change DK's colors?

You don't even have to show it, just provide feed back if you are willing.
 

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The tourney is how Nintendo is demonstrating Smash 4. Using the tourney to show off characters would make sense and skyrocket the hype. The press would eat up the sudden explosion of fans freaking over Ridley.


Hell, each tier unlocking a newcomer as a reward would cause waves, and keep fans and the press buzzed over the tournament constantly.
That would help alot with hype and is something that I would not mind seeing.
 

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Well guys, this ridley debate isn't finished

take a look here:

Check ridley name rectangle then check the pit one and check back to ridley

The ridley one is off and someone pointed on the character discussion thread that the blue outline was outside the character box (you can see a grey line on the right of the blue outline).

Photoshop?
Oh my god. Ridley's name rectangle is 1 pixel higher than Pits!
 

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I just did something really lazy, and made the area around where the corner is white



I'm sure someone can do much better, but basically, it's there, and matches the color of the other corner things.

EDIT: From what I can tell, if you zoom in real close, you can kinda make grey in Marth's area as well. Perhaps the cursor sort of pulsates? Like while it's on, it might increase and decrease in size, to give motion to the select screen.
 
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I just did something really lazy, and made the area around where the corner is white



I'm sure someone can do much better, but basically, it's there, and matches the color of the other corner things.
Ah, thanks. The person who leaked this took extra care when they went through with this. If proven to be fake, then this person did a very good job.
 

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We did it!



The name rectangle of Ridley is one pixel higher than Pits! I think we've done it folks! FAAAAAAAAKE!

 
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Well guys, this ridley debate isn't finished

take a look here:

Check ridley name rectangle then check the pit one and check back to ridley

The ridley one is off and someone pointed on the character discussion thread that the blue outline was outside the character box (you can see a grey line on the right of the blue outline).

Photoshop?
I guess it's possible that the layer is 3D and you can move it around with the C Stick but...

Yeah. That hurts...
 

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What is going on!



The name rectangle of Ridley is one pixel higher than Pits! I think we've done it folks! FAAAAAAAAKE!

The one with Ridley might be at the very least. We still don't know about the first two, as the inconsistency isn't there on that one.

Also, if the Ridley one is fake, that is such a stupid thing to mess up in Photoshop XD
 

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Well. Ridley is finished...

Again...

You think the first two might be legitimate?
 

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You think maybe the first two pics are real?

It could explain a lot.
 
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What is going on!



The name rectangle of Ridley is one pixel higher than Pits! I think we've done it folks! FAAAAAAAAKE!

No, we didn't Ms. Explorer. The corner mark is still present for one. It also is similar to how Marth has the border touching the light grey line, just like this one does, as well there are vague traces of the border inside the red line on Marth's as well.

A hypothetical if I may. The leaker stated Mega Man, Little Mac and Ridley would be present in the Tournament version. Ridley would be unlockable. Now the guy confirmed he was a tester at the booth. Perhaps this isn't a photoshop error, but a game error, similar to what Swamp brought up about LittleMac in the direct before. Perhaps it was a programming glitch with his unlock in such an usual way, and the in game graphic needs to be adjusted. The way I see it, this leak isn't dead yet.
 

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these leaks are pathetic... almost 99.9 percent of them are fake.... trolls have alot of time on their hands

any leak including Ridley and Krystal i know are fake for sure....
 

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You think maybe the first two pics are real?

It could explain a lot.
No way, the angle could only be made by someone who had the picture on their monitor.

No, we didn't Ms. Explorer. The corner mark is still present for one. It also is similar to how Marth has the border touching the light grey line, just like this one does, as well there are vague traces of the border inside the red line on Marth's as well.

A hypothetical if I may. The leaker stated Mega Man, Little Mac and Ridley would be present in the Tournament version. Ridley would be unlockable. Now the guy confirmed he was a tester at the booth. Perhaps this isn't a photoshop error, but a game error, similar to what Swamp brought up about LittleMac in the direct before. Perhaps it was a programming glitch with his unlock in such an usual way, and the in game graphic needs to be adjusted. The way I see it, this leak isn't dead yet.
Come on man. It makes no sense why the ONLY unnanounced character would magically have their rectangular name plate 1 pixel up than the others. You can clearly see the block dot near the bottom of Ridley's name plate. Also, as aldelaro stated before, that name plate was normal until this picture came out.

It probably happened when he pasted his fake Ridley slot over the Locked slot. Simple and best explanation, we are DONE!
 
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these leaks are pathetic... almost 99.9 percent of them are fake.... trolls have alot of time on their hands

any leak including Ridley and Krystal i know are fake for sure....
It didn't have Krystal.

No way, the angle could only be made by someone who had the picture on their monitor.




No. I think you can do it like that on a booth.
 
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No, we didn't Ms. Explorer. The corner mark is still present for one. It also is similar to how Marth has the border touching the light grey line, just like this one does, as well there are vague traces of the border inside the red line on Marth's as well.

A hypothetical if I may. The leaker stated Mega Man, Little Mac and Ridley would be present in the Tournament version. Ridley would be unlockable. Now the guy confirmed he was a tester at the booth. Perhaps this isn't a photoshop error, but a game error, similar to what Swamp brought up about LittleMac in the direct before. Perhaps it was a programming glitch with his unlock in such an usual way, and the in game graphic needs to be adjusted. The way I see it, this leak isn't dead yet.
unfortunately, out of all the characters here, this is the only one that has a pixel of error.

But if this picture itself was fake then he didn't too k the picture and it was PREPARED and you know what this means right? He couldn't have been a tester at the booth which make the whole leak looks like a fake. So, I doubt that it's the only one fake.

EDIT: I still can't believe I debunked this for a pixel after 20 pages.
 
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No way, the angle could only be made by someone who had the picture on their monitor.



Come on man. It makes no sense why the ONLY unnanounced character would magically have their rectangular name plate 1 pixel up than the others. You can clearly see the block dot near the bottom of Ridley's name plate.
But only Ridley is unlocked in this tournament version, making him an exception to the rest. Let alone the fact that his story states he was TESTING the game builds. Testing doesn't have to just mean gameplay, but could pertain to other facets as well, such as this menu. It's a flaw, but it's just as possible that it could be an error in game, just as it could be an error in fabricating a leak. If I was the leaker, why even include Ridley? You have such a safe leak, and you could just as easily claim Ridley is unlocked after the tournament. Yet, here's proof of Ridley right here? Why risk it? Why even risk adding Mega Man and Mac and stating there are two editions, that would make no sense for a random leaker to do if he had already made two very well made fakes.

The way I see it, each side has arguments for and against it, and no circumstantial evidence like this can prove it otherwise on it's own.
 

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But only Ridley is unlocked in this tournament version, making him an exception to the rest. Let alone the fact that his story states he was TESTING the game builds. Testing doesn't have to just mean gameplay, but could pertain to other facets as well, such as this menu. It's a flaw, but it's just as possible that it could be an error in game, just as it could be an error in fabricating a leak. If I was the leaker, why even include Ridley? You have such a safe leak, and you could just as easily claim Ridley is unlocked after the tournament. Yet, here's proof of Ridley right here? Why risk it? Why even risk adding Mega Man and Mac and stating there are two editions, that would make no sense for a random leaker to do if he had already made two very well made fakes.

The way I see it, each side has arguments for and against it, and no circumstantial evidence like this can prove it otherwise on it's own.
Stick a knife it in, it's done! This is the proof that we needed to be fake! Also, why would unlocking him magically move his name plate up by 1? It is impossible for that mistake to be made.
 

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Stick a knife it in, it's done! This is the proof that we needed to be fake! Also, why would unlocking him magically move his name plate up by 1? It is impossible for that mistake to be made.
You're being to biased my friend. My argument certainly does not prove it isn't fake, as any leak should be treated fake until proven true. My argument simply points out another side to this, more possibilities that we cannot ignore.
 

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Perhaps it shifts up when you select the character? Very unlikely I know, this seems to debunk it.
 

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You're being to biased my friend. My argument certainly does not prove it isn't fake, as any leak should be treated fake until proven true. My argument simply points out another side to this, more possibilities that we cannot ignore.
To be honest, if the possibility is there, it's so tiny that I'm even wondering why talking about it. We are not talking about the whole character box but only the name rectangle how could move only the rectangle (aka what would be the need to do that?).
 

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Does it really prove anything when that box is selected? I'm definitely not convinced its fake because of something that small and minor that could have been effected by the camera.


Also, regarding Wii Fit TRAINER
 
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