Donald Trump discuss

[the.tok]

I don't know how it is even debatable since Trump has proven many times that he is racist, clueless and full of prejudices. He's basically all what a president shouldn't be, and you shouldn't feel safe giving power to a man that is so... unintelligent? (for lack of better word. I mean he clearly has a below average culture and IQ).

I don't think he's the next Hitler, he's just childish and has not thought-out opinion

I understand that the other choices you have are not very good, but come on US citizen, at least pick someone that has a minimum of culture and do not make you look stupid to the rest of the world like with GW Bush.

 

[Jim Jam Flim Flam]

I don't know how it is even debatable since Trump has proven many times that he is racist, clueless and full of prejudices. He's basically all what a president shouldn't be, and you shouldn't feel safe giving power to a man that is so... unintelligent? (for lack of better word. I mean he clearly has a below average culture and IQ).

I don't think he's the next Hitler, he's just childish and has not thought-out opinion

I understand that the other choices you have are not very good, but come on US citizen, at least pick someone that has a minimum of culture and do not make you look stupid to the rest of the world like with GW Bush.

I think there is a legitimate difference in Trump and people like Bush. Bush is not an intelligent man, in my opinion, but his heart was in the right place. He did what he thought was best for the American people, and tried very hard to please both democrats and republicans. He didn't necessarily succeed at his goals, but he tried, and I believe he legitimately wanted the best for America. Trump, however, seems consumed by immature selfishness and narcissism. It seems his solution to problems is to say the first thing that comes to his mind. It seems like he has a number of good ideas, but we don't need someone who would just pick the option that whimsically came to him in a dangerous or serious situation. I think there are a few other good candidates, but I don't think they have a very good chance of making it past the primaries. Trump's attention will slowly wane as we get closer to the election and people focus on more serious candidates, I just don't know how long it will take.

 

[ZXMechonHunter]

Seriously tho, real talk? *****, ****, and asshole are censored, but Donald Trump isn't? SB's inconsistency really boggles my mind.
Trump is literal cancer. "Oh he's not politically correct so he's coo" "I like him cuz he speaks whats on his mind" Too bad what's on his mind is constantly being a vulgar bigot. Guess that says a lot about American citizens if he actually is leading in the polls. (though the constant name calling and death threats from his supporters already did that in for me)

 

[FlusteredBat]

Seriously tho, real talk? *****, ****, and ******* are censored, but Donald Trump isn't? SB's inconsistency really boggles my mind.
Trump is literal cancer. "Oh he's not politically correct so he's coo" "I like him cuz he speaks whats on his mind" Too bad what's on his mind is constantly being a vulgar bigot. Guess that says a lot about American citizens if he actually is leading in the polls. (though the constant name calling and death threats from his supporters already did that in for me)

...Or rather It says a lot about the overwhelming left-wing bias within modern media and education seeing countless youths such as yourself implying that adherence to political correctness and competence are synonymous. This entire thread is just another typical outlet for the progressive slander-fest against Trump. It also says a lot about the moderators here who allow these empty opinionated spam-ridden posts to persist despite the fact that this is the Debate Hall.

Defamation has always been the primary sophistic tool wielded by those who never had logical arguments to begin with.

 

[Cheerilee]

...Or rather It says a lot about the overwhelming left-wing bias within modern media and education seeing countless youths such as yourself implying that adherence to political correctness and competence are synonymous. This entire thread is just another typical outlet for the progressive slander-fest against Trump. It also says a lot about the moderators here who allow these empty opinionated spam-ridden posts to persist despite the fact that this is the Debate Hall. Defamation has always been the primary sophistic tool wielded by those who never had logical arguments to begin with.

The person you quoted didn't question his competency, she stated he was a vulgar bigot which means she may disagree with his views and/or how he presents them. However, she didn't state that he was incompetent or unable to effectively enact on his views which would link her statement to a question of competency.

 

[_Keno_]

The only reason Democrats are in favor of unrestricted immigration is to rig the game, i.e. to import masses of easy votes. That has been their strategy for quite some time.

On the flip-side, you could say that Republicans are only in favor of restricted immigration to rig the game. Just like they've done with massive gerrymandering. The United States has always been a country of immigration.

Hitler and Mussolini may have looked right-wing compared to Stalin, though I assure you that they were both quite socialist. Note: Nazi means National Socialist German Worker's Party. Mussolini was greatly inspired by Karl Marx.

You do realize that socialism is a purely economic concept, no? If you want to criticize Nazi Germany's economy, then you'd have some trouble. They had quite a good economy.

If you're looking at negative social concepts, see Fascism and Communism.

...Or rather It says a lot about the overwhelming left-wing bias within modern media and education seeing countless youths such as yourself implying that adherence to political correctness and competence are synonymous.

I'll agree to this. I think political correctness is going too far recently. Trump is loved for saying what he means in a casual/simple way. However, there's a point where vulgarity, racism, and lack of meaningful ideas show his incompetence. I can't really see any angle where he has useful ideas that aren't just sensationalism, or how he'll even enough grace communicate with literally anyone in foreign matters.

This entire thread is just another typical outlet for the progressive slander-fest against Trump. It also says a lot about the moderators here who allow these empty opinionated spam-ridden posts to persist despite the fact that this is the Debate Hall.

At this point I cant tell if you're trolling or not. Donald Trump is the greatest slander-fest against Donald Trump, not this debate hall.

Defamation has always been the primary sophistic tool wielded by those who never had logical arguments to begin with.

I agree entirely!

 

[davidvkimball]

Not supporting Donald Trump is how people with brains from across party lines become allies.

Personally, as a constitutional libertarian-leaning conservative, I'm a Rand Paul guy.

 

[Cheerilee]

Not supporting Donald Trump is how people with brains from across party lines become allies. Personally, as a constitutional libertarian-leaning conservative, I'm a Rand Paul guy.

I also support Rand Paul in a café in San Francisco.

 

[Ph1l]

If Trump becomes president, I will not be returning to the US until after his term has ended.


Although, I doubt he will be president. Some of the people of the United States are pretty stupid, but not stupid enough for this.

I second this. TO CANADA!

 

[_Keno_]

People say this kinda crap every year.

If either Bernie or Trump is elect, neither will have enough bipartisan support to do anything.

 

[Cheerilee]

Honestly. The people who are aghast or offended by Trump tend to be people who didn't participate in the last juicy election cycle where we had Rick Perry freezing up on stage and passing on a Debate Question because he couldn't answer it. He still was in contention and present in debates this year. Herman Cain and Michele Bachmann were also front runners in the last election. This year it's Trump. What you people fail to realize is that the Republicans are likely never going to win another presidential election unless the Democrat party gets embroiled in a HUGE scandal that explodes everywhere which is what Fox news is attempting to do by blowing up incidences like Benghazi and the shootings in Ferguson as being the responsibilities of the president.

When you have a party that is well known for taking a stance on clamping down on immigration (lose Hispanic voters), against gay marriage, pro defensive budget spending despite cutting down on social welfare programs, and still unable to provide adequate explanations for our War on Terror which as far as we are aware had put us in the lime light for terrorist attacks (although we would still be in those cross hairs probably regardless) then how do you expect this party to pull away with a win as America becomes increasingly more tolerate, educated, open-minded, and accepting of people who come to this country with nothing in order to make something work out. When it seems like we have a Baby Boomer Generation with a hold on the economy like a cancer that won't go away requiring your college graduates and fresh minds to become self entrepreneurs you are not garnishing support by clinging on to the status quo our supposedly our Christian values that have resulted in a "middle class" that makes $10,000-$15,000 less than it did ten years ago, has done nothing to keep its strong corporate companies from staying endogenous to the United States population, and frankly has done nothing to reign in the culture of Wall Street to bring them close to Main Street.

When you have the city of Detroit go bankrupt with over $18 billion in debt obligation then honestly how ridiculous is a nominee like Trump for president? People at this point who are consumed by Trump mania likely are focusing on a symptom of politics gone wrong. What we should be looking at as interested parties is the underlying stimulus as to how our presidential candidates became an equivalent attraction to the Superbowl Half Time Show and discuss these underlying issues. When you have core issues that go unaddressed you will always have a spew of symptoms, Trump is merely a symptom of a country that needs to undergo serious repair on several levels.

 

[davidvkimball]

Honestly. The people who are aghast or offended by Trump tend to be people who didn't participate in the last juicy election cycle where we had Rick Perry freezing up on stage and passing on a Debate Question because he couldn't answer it. He still was in contention and present in debates this year. Herman Cain and Michele Bachmann were also front runners in the last election. This year it's Trump. What you people fail to realize is that the Republicans are likely never going to win another presidential election unless the Democrat party gets embroiled in a HUGE scandal that explodes everywhere which is what Fox news is attempting to do by blowing up incidences like Benghazi and the shootings in Ferguson as being the responsibilities of the president.

When you have a party that is well known for taking a stance on clamping down on immigration (lose Hispanic voters), against gay marriage, pro defensive budget spending despite cutting down on social welfare programs, and still unable to provide adequate explanations for our War on Terror which as far as we are aware had put us in the lime light for terrorist attacks (although we would still be in those cross hairs probably regardless) then how do you expect this party to pull away with a win as America becomes increasingly more tolerate, educated, open-minded, and accepting of people who come to this country with nothing in order to make something work out. When it seems like we have a Baby Boomer Generation with a hold on the economy like a cancer that won't go away requiring your college graduates and fresh minds to become self entrepreneurs you are not garnishing support by clinging on to the status quo our supposedly our Christian values that have resulted in a "middle class" that makes $10,000-$15,000 less than it did ten years ago, has done nothing to keep its strong corporate companies from staying endogenous to the United States population, and frankly has done nothing to reign in the culture of Wall Street to bring them close to Main Street.

When you have the city of Detroit go bankrupt with over $18 billion in debt obligation then honestly how ridiculous is a nominee like Trump for president? People at this point who are consumed by Trump mania likely are focusing on a symptom of politics gone wrong. What we should be looking at as interested parties is the underlying stimulus as to how our presidential candidates became an equivalent attraction to the Superbowl Half Time Show and discuss these underlying issues. When you have core issues that go unaddressed you will always have a spew of symptoms, Trump is merely a symptom of a country that needs to undergo serious repair on several levels.

Rand Paul is helping break this perception of the right. He's upsetting the typical hawkish Republican platform with a more libertarian approach. All of his talking points in the debates have been solid and he doesn't use stories and anecdotes like everyone else.

 

[Rich Homie Supreme]

Contemporary Christianity, not Old Testament Christianity.

In the new testament, Jesus said that all the old testament stuff still applies, sorry but you can't play the old testament card lol.

Matthew 5:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

 

[davidvkimball]

In the new testament, Jesus said that all the old testament stuff still applies, sorry but you can't play the old testament card lol.

Matthew 5:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Right but the law He's talking about is interpreting the old with the new. In other words we don't need to sacrifice animals anymore, Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice etc. One example.

 

[FlusteredBat]

In the new testament, Jesus said that all the old testament stuff still applies, sorry but you can't play the old testament card lol.

Matthew 5:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

I am well aware. You should pay more attention to the context of what I have said rather than giving a knee-jerk response to something in isolation. Successful holy texts like the Bible were designed to be cherry-picked in order to appeal to as many people as possible, they're ironically not reliable sources when it comes to understanding the common values held by their proponents.

Focus on the actions (historical and contemporary) of people who call themselves believers. How does Islam compare with Christianity?

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I can't think of Trump without puking in my mouth a little. He may be a successful business man but that does not translate to being an effectual global leader. You're kidding yourself if you think Trump will be an effective leader and that he will keep to his campaign promises.


Wait....that might actually be a good thing should he (god forbid) be elected as the next president.

 

[the.tok]

Focus on the actions (historical and contemporary) of people who call themselves believers. How does Islam compare with Christianity?

I would say both have their good and bad moments, I'd guess more bad ones, but that is debatable.


Even looking at it from different perspective, they are really similar, which is understandable, since they are variants of the same religion in the end. You seem to be implying that there is an overwhelming difference, but I just don't see it. Most believers of both are okay people, the fanatic minority is toxic, and this goes for all religions.

 

[davidvkimball]

I would say both have their good and bad moments, I'd guess more bad ones, but that is debatable.


Even looking at it from different perspective, they are really similar, which is understandable, since they are variants of the same religion in the end. You seem to be implying that there is an overwhelming difference, but I just don't see it. Most believers of both are okay people, the fanatic minority is toxic, and this goes for all religions.

You're correct in the sense that they're both Monotheistic religions, and each claim to involve the same God. But their teachings differ drastically if you read their respective holy books. Jesus and Mohammad had very different messages.

 

[OG Eurocrime Criminale]

I can't think of Trump without puking in my mouth a little. He may be a successful business man but that does not translate to being an effectual global leader. You're kidding yourself if you think Trump will be an effective leader and that he will keep to his campaign promises.


Wait....that might actually be a good thing should he (god forbid) be elected as the next president.

We need a bloody leader? To take us where? Why can't a president be an administrator for once instead of a warlord, faithful husband, avatar of the nation and high pries of sports?

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

We need a bloody leader? To take us where? Why can't a president be an administrator for once instead of a warlord, faithful husband, avatar of the nation and high pries of sports?

That made zero sense. What the hell is a high pries of sports?

 

[OG Eurocrime Criminale]

That made zero sense. What the hell is a high pries of sports?

Champion teams go the White House to get a stupid blessing and congratulations.

 

[LunarWingCloud]

After looking into his policies a little deeper so I can understand more effectively each candidate's proposals, plans, ideologies, etc., I can say that Donald Trump is not the worst person ever. He has some decent economic policies and while I'm quite liberal, I think his concept of immigration reform, though misguided, is at least respectable to bring to the table. However, his intended execution of these proposals, his foreign policy (wanting direct warfare in the Middle East), and worst of all, the ignorance of many of his supporters, just downright disgusts me. Would he be the worst president ever? Honestly, I don't think so. FDR was considered one of our greatest presidents and yet he still signed the executive order to detain thousands of Japanese-Americans and even though it was a different time, and even as a liberal-leaner I believe that that was a blunder and a sad blemish on an otherwise decent presidency. Trump would replicate that, but his economic plans are well-intentioned.

That being said he has clearly flip-flopped on his stance on issues, he focuses more on attacking other candidates and people as opposed to really talking about his plans to improve the country (and most of those end up with hate-filled speech), and so I dislike him based on the content of his character. But from an objective standpoint, he has some redeemable qualities that unfortunately are in ideas that can very easily be transferred to another candidate who is more inviting of true equality and better cooperation with the leaders of the rest of the world.

 

[saviorslegacy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpKiP_gmDS8

10 out of 10, would lol again

 

[Z1GMA]

Oh, god. I really hate him.

 

[DraconicPsycho]

I'm half convinced he is an illuminati cyborg sent from space by sky net on Mars.

 

[Gamerz31w]

At least Epic Games(Jazz Jackrabbit 3) and Nintendo(EarthBound 64) won't warn anybody if someone will make fan game with copyrights protection and canceled from past.

 

[Deleted member]

hate him, go bernie! \^o^/

 

[Gamerz31w]

Maybe Donald Trump represents socialism,but origins of RFID technology were soviet invention.From Russian radical life and politics perspective Marx,Rasputin and Engels were communists.Rest of things are science-fiction dark novels of Aldous Huxley and novels of George Orwell.Speaking of science-fiction era becomming a part of reality in further future.

 

[TyDye]

Although I agree with many of his views (I consider myself to be conservitave) I don't think Trump is at all the right guy for the job. He is a **** and I cringe when I try to think about him as president talking with the leaders of other countries.

I hate how the election has become voting for the lesser of two evils instead the better of two leaders; and many people vote based on sex, religion, or celebrity status.

 

[Panudroid]

https://youtu.be/DnpO_RTSNmQ

This looks like an interesting thing to discuss

 

[Gamerz31w]

Do you think 2ep3+2ep4=Half-Life 3(will be released by Valve),new crash bandicoot(will be released by Naughty Dog),new jazz jackrabbit(will be released by Epic Games) will be announced if Donald Trump wins presidental dabate?If Ben Sanders/Hilary Clinton will won presidental debate copyrights protection will be still "great" tactics of developers,lawyers and government lawship like ACTA and NISPA for example.

 

[MarMarTheGreat]

Trump isnt as evil as the media potrays him to be..Far from it actually..

He is not racist but extremly xenophobic or well obsessed with Security

He knows that talking diplomaticly wont get him anywhere because he knows the American People are pissed

He is outplaying us all right now I bet you..Trump knows what he is doing and he is winning because of it..

I do not know his agenda..I know he is honest atleast and that he is far better than Obama or Bush but I cant blame Obama that badly he probaly got pressured to seven hells to arm Saudi Rebel insurgent scum..

Trump just really needs to work on his diplomatic speech..He needs to talk like a leader..I dont care if everyone loves him for being a Rebel or Anti Establishment...Insulting everyone isnt really great in foreing affairs..

I like his openess to being friends with Putin not being a PC loser and the fact he is the only man who actually knows what the Syrian People want

Go cry racist all you want or Islamophobic..Fact is he is the only guy that was against The Iraqi war back when it was proposed while Clinton approved of it withouth second thoughts

I dont care if he is Xenophobic..I rather prefer peace in the ME and having to face the fact none of us can enter USA until Trump feels like Terrorism is done

You guys dont understand how destructive this failed proxy war in Syria has been...

Of course everyone I know in Iraq and suffered from the war wants to see Obama die but I dont think Obama did it intentionally..Obama made a big mistake thinking he was supporting the right people when the Syrian Rebels were bigger savages than the Oppresive goverment.

Obama made a mistake I hope Trump doesnt get blocked from his plans of becoming allies with Putin and returning the Syrians their homes along with the EU..

If I was actually an American I would go for Sanders defly since I wouldnt care what happens in the outside world..Sanders social policies are just what America needs and Trump doesnt tackle it as good as Sanders at all.

 

[Gamerz31w]

That's what you want to achieve in future?Positive thinking it's no use.Only President of USA Barack Obama is smilling for no reason.Tibetan monks and Jedi knights believe in harmony not just for random infinite smile.Choose any president of USA you want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC3NIdiZF_E

 

[Iceweasel]

That's what you want to achieve in future?Positive thinking it's no use.Only President of USA Barack Obama is smilling for no reason.Tibetan monks and Jedi knights believe in harmony not just for random infinite smile.Choose any president of USA you want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC3NIdiZF_E

My, what a delicious word salad, Chef!

 

[[][] Revios]

I feel we need a president like him! he shares what he thinks and actually does what he says/promises.

 

[Murlough]

I feel we need a president like him! he shares what he thinks and actually does what he says/promises.

He is also a racist, a bully, and an idiot.

#Trumpforpresident

 

[Synnett]

He wants to build a wall with Mexico and Canada, and want to bomb the EU. While I'm pretty sure it's a trick to get the votes, as the Americans seems to be fed up with all that political correctness and for this corrupt government, it is actually pretty likely that he gets in. Let's not forget how the German government at the time wanted to frame Hitler - it didn't work. All he do is avoid the questions and topics by saying "The American's are fed up" and "I'm going to do this to this country" and he just racks up all the votes.

I'm actually scared of what he can do if he gets in. I feel like all everyone wants is just to get involved, and Trump gives them the occasion to do so.

 

[MarMarTheGreat]

Bomb the EU?

Are you mad?

 

[Sucumbio]

To be frank, his popularity is widely trumped up (ha!). He was very little support from any of the major demographics except red state tea baggers. Minorities, married women, Democrats and progressives, they are all opting for Clinton or Sanders.

SoSyes while it appears Trump is "winning" all he's really doing is heading up the Republican votes in each state which is for the most part a mere fraction of the whole.

 

[Stu R]

Everybody says Trump won't win because of the minority's, but that's exactly what they are, minority's. What about the majority's? Isn't that what decides the election? I think Trump has a better shot than you guys think and I personally support him for president.