Donald Trump discuss

[Chainz]

Title says it all. What your opinions on old man Trump running for US president? Imo, he needs to stay in the entertainment biz and leave politics to people who wanna do something positive.

Your thoughts?

 

[Whia]

To paraphrase a quote from The Dark Knight:

He's the president America deserves, but not the one it needs.

 

[Albie83]

I cannot say that I agree with pretty much anything he says. I scoffed him off as a joke contender, but what I find more depressing than Donald Trump running for president is that there are many people that are voting for him.

 

[Pachinkosam]

Donald Trump trying to deport 11 million immigrants even the Mexican Americans who were born in the united states like myself. Last time I checked 14th amendment saids who ever was born in united states is a considered a us citizen. So what's in my mind is this law well indeed not pass.

He need to worry more about terrorism.

 

[Sucumbio]

Donald Trump is the best the Republicans have to offer. He has strong support with upper middle class and high class citizens because of his business expertise, even though closer inspection of his history will show he's not as successful as he wants to portray.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/debtwire/2015/08/18/a-trip-down-donald-trumps-bankruptcy-memory-lane/

Bernie Sanders will take the Democratic ticket amd hopefully the election.

 

[Chainz]

Even if Trump manage to win the election. There no way any of his revisions gonna fly through Congress and the Supreme Court.

But then again, he'll probably try to find loopholes.

 

[Basseidon]

Trump is all talk with a liberal history. Alot of what he says I agree with but he only says what will benefit him in the polls. Now I'm glad someone has a voice and speaks their mind in politics but he shows no humility. Right now Carson has my vote. There have been things he has said I disagreed with but he seems like an intelligent individual who actually cares about this country and the people living in it.

 

[Claire Diviner]

Given the number of Latino-Americans in this country, I doubt he'll win the presidency.

 

[Sucumbio]

Hell just minorities in general. When you add up all the minorities they outnumber whites though one snafu is that minorities have lower turnout. I'm hoping this election will be different. We don't want Trump in the White House.

 

[Chainz]

Trump is all talk with a liberal history. Alot of what he says I agree with but he only says what will benefit him in the polls. Now I'm glad someone has a voice and speaks their mind in politics but he shows no humility. Right now Carson has my vote. There have been things he has said I disagreed with but he seems like an intelligent individual who actually cares about this country and the people living in it.

Trump's assertiveness is the only thing about him I like. Whether or not he would actually follow up with what he says. That, I can't really say. As for his ideas, i'm neither conservative or liberal. But I find a lot of what he says to be pretty ignorant.

Given the number of Latino-Americans in this country, I doubt he'll win the presidency.

True, Latino voters have a huge impact when it comes to elections. Mainly because we are a large and growing population here. Which is why Trump surprises me sometimes. Now, i'm not saying he should be honey *******, lol. But to say, "We're going to build a wall", "make Mexico pay for it", "send people back", etc. I'm sure he knows he's negatively affecting his own campaign with Latino voters. Why he continues to do it? Well... It's pretty obvious.

Hell just minorities in general. When you add up all the minorities they outnumber whites though one snafu is that minorities have lower turnout. I'm hoping this election will be different. We don't want Trump in the White House.

Actually, not true man. Whites alone, make up around 62.1% of the American population (as of 2014). Your close though, lol. Don't worry we'll catch up quick.
Source: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

Voter turnout does have it's own influence. In the 2008 election 62.3% of Americans voted. But in the 2012 election, that number dropped to an 54.2%. Why a drop? Mid-terms not seen as important, maybe?
Source: http://bipartisanpolicy.org/library/2012-voter-turnout/

Now if you ask me what I think the turnout will be in 2016. Honestly, I wouldn't know what to tell ya. But I do have a strong feeling it won't be as low as the previous one, lol.

 

[FlusteredBat]

Donald Trump is the best the Republicans have to offer. He has strong support with upper middle class and high class citizens because of his business expertise, even though closer inspection of his history will show he's not as successful as he wants to portray.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/debtwire/2015/08/18/a-trip-down-donald-trumps-bankruptcy-memory-lane/

Bernie Sanders will take the Democratic ticket amd hopefully the election.

Donald Trump is an entrepreneur, of course a handful of his ventures failed, it's all part of the game. A failed business essentially tells investors to refocus their efforts--it is moronic to sustain a company with zero customers, that's a complete waste of resources which benefits no one. Trump has clearly shown that he knows how to put things into action, unlike a certain pandering, sentimental, economically illiterate socialist (or pretty much every other politician for that matter).

It is understandable how people might be turned away from Trump due to his warmongering sentiments, but that also suggests tremendous naivety regarding the intentions of other presidential candidates when it comes to foreign affairs. Trump's honesty is actually commendable here... as terrible as it may be.

Anti-immigration is a big part of Trump's appeal, many are fed up with the threat of unsavory individuals invading their relatively peaceful neighborhoods and siphoning off the general population through unfiltered welfare programs/public services.

This ship is on a collision course with the iceberg of reality. The system as we know it will be devoured by the abyss, but ideally our next captain should grant us time to man the life boats and salvage the western tradition of liberty. I fear all will be lost to the pathetic dregs of emotional volatility, entitlement and political correctness.

 

[Iceweasel]

Trump's a joke. The only point I agree with him on is that there's too much immigration right now (not enough jobs for the citizens), but he manages to go so overboard even with that that he just can't be taken seriously. Build a wall, and make Mexico pay for it? Yeah, good luck with that.

The most common reason that people give for wanting to vote for him is, "He's a businessman, he can drag us out of this recession!". The problem is that businessmen got us into it. Businessmen and lobbyists trying to make an extra buck had certain laws changed to make it easier for people with a lot of money to make even more money, and these changes were detrimental to the vast majority of the American populace. If Trump gets elected, I can't forsee his economic policy doing anything but furthering what got us into this mess in the first place.

 

[Zale]

If Trump becomes president, I will not be returning to the US until after his term has ended.


Although, I doubt he will be president. Some of the people of the United States are pretty stupid, but not stupid enough for this.

 

[Pikmin-ism42]

I find it rather difficult to take anything Donald Trump spouts out seriously.

 

[Samal Lord]

I used to think his Twitter was a joke account so I followed it. It's even funnier now that I know it's legit.

 

[Plunder]

The scary thing about Trump is that he actually has a shot at taking this...and I think his already record-breaking high numbers (for the demographics and party) aren't even the tip of the iceberg. I fear that a lot of people secretly are backing him but are afraid to say so in public polls leading to deflated inaccurate counts.

He's doing something that no other candidate ever does - appears to be telling the truth (even if it's dumb or mis-informed). What we are used to seeing is candidates flip-flop over and over on crucial topics, then if they do get into office they never follow through on their "promises" and end up doing the exact opposite most of the time. Basically just lies about their own platform and bashing others with lies in ad spots like propaganda.

With Trump he's saying so many outlandish things, and so many things that seem honest that people are actually responding to him. He's making the debates different by not being the typical boring PR handled neutered politician (normal people probably find this endearing and entertaining). People think he has nothing to lose really, therefore they believe he's going to be the most honest and forthright.

 

[Pikmin-ism42]

Sure, Donald Trump speaks out his mind, and sure he's a businessman, but in no way does that make him any better of a politician.
Plus, the "truth" that Trump blurts out occasionally is often outright wrong. Does one really want to vote for a person who wants to build a wall around Mexico? He's being honest about wanting to start that project, but why would you want him in charge just because he isn't oppressing his fantasies?
And some supporters have spouted out such arguments as: "Trump isn't a joke, he's the only one not pretending that the whole thing is a joke!". Well, I don't know about you, but I'd rather vote for a person who's at least trying to take things seriously rather than someone not taking anything seriously enough and calling all the Mexicans "rapists".

 

[FlusteredBat]

Sure, Donald Trump speaks out his mind, and sure he's a businessman, but in no way does that make him any better of a politician.
Plus, the "truth" that Trump blurts out occasionally is often outright wrong. Does one really want to vote for a person who wants to build a wall around Mexico? He's being honest about wanting to start that project, but why would you want him in charge just because he isn't oppressing his fantasies?
And some supporters have spouted out such arguments as: "Trump isn't a joke, he's the only one not pretending that the whole thing is a joke!". Well, I don't know about you, but I'd rather vote for a person who's at least trying to take things seriously rather than someone not taking anything seriously enough and calling all the Mexicans "rapists".

What exactly makes a "better" politician then? What are the crucial skills possessed by other politicians which Trump lacks?

 

[Kaiduru Zeta]

I really doubt he'll become president due to him not favoring minorities. Which isn't great for his campaign.

 

[Foxus]

If Luma could come and eat Donald Trump, that'd do the world a favor.

Okay, but seriously though, here's my two cents on Trumpy. You know how there are internet trolls? Well, Trump is the troll of the political world. Everything Trump has said has been greatly abstract, and a assumption at best. I see policies as a brochure. You've shown us what it's called, now what's the step by step process you'll take to achieve that claim.

Trumpy hasn't stated once how he'll deal with anything. Nominating Trump will guarantee a victory for four more years of a Democratic presidency.

 

[Murlough]

He is an idiot and the world is laughing at us. That's how I feel anyway. He is about as intelligent as a middle school bully. If he wins then America is in deeper **** than I originally thought.

 

[Elin]

I think my dad supports him. Which isn't surprising because my dad is an idiot.

Everyone who supports Donald Trump is an idiot. Him being elected will solve nothing and make 'Murica worse. End of discussion.

 

[FlusteredBat]

 

[Sucumbio]

Many voters feel sanders and trump are two ends of the same stick with Hilary in the middle. I am not one of these.

Also both sanders and Trump have insane ideaa when it comes to wages. Trump proposes NO income tax for individuals making less than 25k a year, 50k for married filing jointly, and sanders proposes a hike in minimum wage to be 15 dollars. FIFTEEN DOLLARS. I'm a manager and make less than what he's proposing pimple faced tweens from high school should make flipping burgers.

Smh. So they think Hilary is the least of 3 evils?

I shudder to see what happens in the next decade, regardless of who wins.

 

[Elin]

Many voters feel sanders and trump are two ends of the same stick with Hilary in the middle. I am not one of these.

Also both sanders and Trump have insane ideaa when it comes to wages. Trump proposes NO income tax for individuals making less than 25k a year, 50k for married filing jointly, and sanders proposes a hike in minimum wage to be 15 dollars. FIFTEEN DOLLARS. I'm a manager and make less than what he's proposing pimple faced tweens from high school should make flipping burgers.

Smh. So they think Hilary is the least of 3 evils?

I shudder to see what happens in the next decade, regardless of who wins.

Hilary is just a bandwagoner.

Will support something because other liberals support it. But it's not something she actually believes. Case in point, she was homophobic at first, but started supporting gay pride because other liberals were supporting it.

I know, because my mom supports her.

As a result, both my parents are idiots.

 

[FlusteredBat]

Hilary is just a bandwagoner.

Will support something because other liberals support it. But it's not something she actually believes. Case in point, she was homophobic at first, but started supporting gay pride because other liberals were supporting it.

I know, because my mom supports her.

As a result, both my parents are idiots.

Parents on opposite political wings? That's a recipe for disaster.

You forgot to mention that Hillary Clinton is a criminal.

 

[Elin]

Parents on opposite political wings? That's a recipe for disaster.

You forgot to mention that Hillary Clinton is a criminal.

I didn't know that. Thanks! I'll bring it up when my mom comes up with shoddy excuses to defend her.

 

[Foxus]

Not sure if I've already mentioned this, but a Trump nomination guarantees a Clinton presidency (given that 1. Clinton is the nominee and 2. Biden gets into the race, which most likely he and/or Sanders would be most likely opponents to Clinton).

In any case, I think people are getting sick of Trump's "I'm better than you, and know everything" attitude. It's like that real sore Smash player who's real cocky at the beginning, then gets his ass handed to him by Jigglypuff. All Trump knows is greed, money, breathing, and fine dining.

 

[FlusteredBat]

In any case, I think people are getting sick of Trump's "I'm better than you, and know everything" attitude.

As if all the other politicians don't also express that sentiment in some form or another.

 

[AzulWolfSmash]

I hope Trump doesn't become the president. Every other country laughs at the U.S but they'll laugh at us even more if he becomes president. No one will take him seriously. If he does become the president the U.S is DOOMED #Clinton4Prez

 

[Sucumbio]

I'd almost rather Trump over Hilary Clinton tbh.

 

[Foxus]

I'd almost rather Trump over Hilary Clinton tbh.

How about Sanders?

 

[Sucumbio]

How about Sanders?

He's Uber Liberal which is great for so many reasons but could be am issue when dealing with Congress.

His track record internationally speaking is interesting :

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_War_+_Peace.htm

If he beats Hilary, he's got my vote. If not, I don't know what I'll do lol.

 

[Chainz]

I dislike both Hillary and Trump. Don't know Sanders well enough, so can't really form an opinion.

 

[Elin]

I dislike both Hillary and Trump. Don't know Sanders well enough, so can't really form an opinion.

Same.

 

[FlusteredBat]

Sanders is a communist, that's all you need to know.

 

[Elin]

Sanders is a communist, that's all you need to know.

IMHO you can do communism right, but the communists now are like dictators.

Sanders is still a better choice than Hillary though. Everything is.

 

[FlusteredBat]

IMHO you can do communism right, but the communists now are like dictators.

Sanders is still a better choice than Hillary though. Everything is.

It's not a matter of opinion. Communism does not work "in theory", it's fundamentally flawed in an economic sense because there's no profit motive (bye bye progress) and there's no way to measure supply/demand (hello starvation).

 

[Elin]

It's not a matter of opinion. Communism does not work "in theory", it's fundamentally flawed in an economic sense because there's no profit motive (bye bye progress) and there's no way to measure supply/demand (hello starvation).

Okay then.

 

[Chainz]

As someone who is kind of a Socialist. Yeah, pure communism would never work.