Sorry I am so late coming into the game. I checked SWF yesterday just before I left to go for a concert to see Dr Who had finally started and was at page 6, so had no time to respond.
Hidajiremi was with me, so he hasn't seen the thread yet either.
This post is going to be really long because it's all my reactions to posts that caught my eye.
Sorry.
Oh, and I'm going to try to post very sarcastically because I'm Donna Noble! Was really looking forward to breadcrumbing that, but now I can just be blatant as I want.
You bovvered?
I am going to break that rule >_>
Except why should I care, I won?
DH being modkilled? Like we haven't seen that before. ^_~
Too many hydras. Makes too many players difficult to read. Will be biased against all hydras until we have a manageable number (2 sounds good, one would be better). I'd prefer hydras to differentiate posts by colour - but if they want to bold which is posting at the beginning of each post I could accept that.
OMG, yes! I hate hate hate hate hydras. I think Bioware suffered badly from them. Weeding out a few hydras would be wonderful.
Wait, does that mean that Frozen is not only confirmed to be town but also completely immune to any kind of night action shenanigans? That's actually not bad at all ... having confirmed townFrozen in lylo as voice of reason may very well tip the game in our favor.
I suggest that one or two of the newer players listen to him and "proxy" their votes on him. Not to load all the responsibility on him but it's surely helpful for a new player who's lost in that swell of information and activity.
Ugh, I totally disagree with this statement.
First, it encourages new players to be lazy. They can just look at this invincible player and follow his lead. If FF gets bad reads, screwed. It's like playing follow the Cello w/o Cello.
Second, confirmed town means sincere reads, not necessarily good ones.
Third, (and I hate to say this) looking at the list all the newer players are already in hydras and should have someone to hold their sad newb hands while they drown in the sea of information a game with five hydras is going to produce.
Fourth, noobs can be scum too.
Fifth, since FF cannot vote and he's a penguin, I suggest he say "Slide" as a faux-vote. =3
Nice useless post there.
I'm for the "follow FF" idea, but I can also see where Peach Monster and others are coming from. My initial reaction was "This is actually pretty good, having a basically invincible player who is awesome at scumhunting, in a game where there are some newer players." But I can also see the side where it makes newbscum not accountable. But I think, in general, newbscum will slip easier than more experienced scum, even without voting. So I'm for "follow FF." As long as FF is willing to go along with it.
Are you considering yourself a newer player for this purpose? Who exactly should be following FF? Does anyone here wanna consider themselves such a poor player they NEED to play follow the leader?
Because you would get modkilled, and a
<17 page D1 is not a good thing.
Yeah, but payback would be so nice, wouldn't it?
Alright, caught up. Going to bed in a bit, tired. I'll reread again when I wake up. Few things I want to say, though, before I go to bed.
I do not at all like the idea of a vote proxy for FF. I don't think Gheb is scummy for suggesting it (though I didn't like Swiss' immediate "oh you're town" reaction), but it gives players room for excuses for their votes in a mislynch. I'd rather see what that player thinks on who should be lynched and where their vote should be than see FF's opinion materialized in a vote. If he wants to express his opinion, he can express it.
PM's trick on Swiss, as far as I can tell, is't letimiate. There's a sample role PM I the OP that gives the name of tow's aligmet. Asking this question was pointless ad does nothing more tha fill gaps with wifom.
Last thing Vote: Smarg. Swiss "justified" your reasoning for voting him? You liked PM's point of Swiss twisting words? You threw out a random vote and saw a couple ways to leave it on there. First scummy player of the game.
I think Gheb is scummy for suggesting it. You get these newer players to not think for themselves and possibly follow someone who has no idea what he's doing because he got a few bad reads. We're three or four misylnches down the road before "oops, cannot listen to FF any more".
PM's "trick" on Swiss was stupid. However, I did get the impression they missed the OP sample role, so I'm willing to say they are town. I wish to god this wasn't true so I could feel good about lynching a four headed hydra.
Also, Hilt, quad post? Really? Were you really that scattered brained or did you want to falsely boost your post count to look like you were contributing. It's cool to admit it.
3. If newbscum decides to proxy their vote on Frozen ... well, then they can't use it against the town. That helps us more than it hurts and hurts the mafia a lot.
I don't even see why I needed to make that post for you but you insisted. Point #1 can easy be seen in my original post, point #2 is common sense and point #3 is a painfully obvious conclusion.
Ok, I'm glad that Gheb admits his post was not received the way he intended. Makes me feel a little better about him.
However, I disagree with point 3. Going under the radar of a cleared townie makes scum that much harder to find. I've seen it time and time again.
Also, in regards to Swiss refusing to say he's town-aligned. I am assuming it is not because town is doctor aligned this game but because I'm in it. (Hubris, I know.)
Swiss, can you confirm my suspicion?
