Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[JOJONumber691]

My idea involves Armored Mewtwo, an Echo of Mewtwo to help with Development and act as a fun reference to The First Movie. Alongside Tyrannitar and another Legendary. Fits him perfectly!

I would give him Persian, but I don't think it fits him, since his Persian is his Favorite Pokemon. I'd imagine the Persian would be with him in the Back and get involved with the Final Smash, but that's about it.

 

[JOJONumber691]

why Tyrannitar?

I would think someone like Rhydon or Nidoking fits him more

I don't want multiple Gen 1 Pokemon with this character, and I think Armored Mewtwo works best for the Gen 1 Slot. That and Johto has an EXTREMELY Close Proximity to Kanto, so I can still get away with giving him a Local Pseudo-Legendary Dragon, while also not overrepping Gen 1.

 

[Garteam]

Regardless of how Legends: Arceus turns out, I do appreciate that Game Freak got another studio to work on Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl instead of doing it alongside that game. I still don't know how Game Freak thought that they could constantly take staff from Sword/Shield to work on the likes of Town, Let's Go, and Ultra Sun/Moon without it affecting the overall quality of that game.

 

[DanganZilla5]

I would honestly be ok if we got a Gen 4 Pokemon like Garchomp as a shill pick.

I'm back on the Pokemon train.

 

[zumaddy]

The Sinnoh remakes look ugly as heck, but the Arceus game looks interesting and with a fairly new concept for the series. Excited to see how it goes

 

[Guynamednelson]

I still don't know how Game Freak thought that they could constantly take staff from Sword/Shield to work on the likes of Town, Let's Go, and Ultra Sun/Moon without it affecting the overall quality of that game.

USUM at least was rehashy enough that I don't see it being a huge drain on resources. Town and Let's Go on the other hand...

 

[JOJONumber691]

The Sinnoh remakes look ugly as heck, but the Arceus game looks interesting and with a fairly new concept for the series. Excited to see how it goes

I think the Sinnoh Remakes look cute, and Arceus looks really good, so if the Gen 4 Remakes are bad then I honestly won't care since Arceus will probably overshadow it anyways.

 

[Cosmic77]

*They announced DP remakes and an open-world game.
*People complain about how short the presentation was and how they had nothing good to show.

Between this and the Nintendo Direct, it's pretty depressing being excited for stuff.

 

[I.D.]

I'd love to see a Fei or Wetall Mii Fighter costume too alongside Elma and KOS-MOS ones (I mean, assuming they can't be full fighters) but it's a stretch.

Have you seen the Mythra alt Sakurai posted on his twitter? I'm starting to think the dream might be more real than we thought

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Well, there they are:

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Terrible names, if I'm honest. There's also a new open world game as well taking place in Sinnoh as well (prequel?)

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Diamond and Pearl remakes look pretty cool and somewhat nostalgic but they look like they belong on the 3DS than the Switch.

For Pokemon Legends Arceus, it looks like Game Freak are biting off more than they can chew again. I like the concept but I think they're going to screw up the execution. It also looks really bad, framerate and graphics wise. I hope this improves because I want to buy Pokemon games again.

 

[skylanders fan]

I’m excited for both I’m glad they showed of Arceus but I’m hopeful to see what it looks like later on. And sinnoh looks different but I kinda like the style

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Yo they showed off Lucario in Legends, you think they'll add Lucario in Smash?

 

[Otoad64]

I don't want multiple Gen 1 Pokemon with this character, and I think Armored Mewtwo works best for the Gen 1 Slot. That and Johto has an EXTREMELY Close Proximity to Kanto, so I can still get away with giving him a Local Pseudo-Legendary Dragon, while also not overrepping Gen 1.

maybe, but it's just... he doesn't even use any of the Pokemon you gave him

if you don't want another Gen 1 mon, how about Rhyperior? He's technically a Sinnoh mon

 

[JOJONumber691]

Diamond and Pearl remakes look pretty cool and somewhat nostalgic but they look like they belong on the 3DS than the Switch.

For Pokemon Legends Arceus, it looks like Game Freak are biting off more than they can chew again. I like the concept but I think they're going to screw up the execution. It also looks really bad, framerate and graphics wise. I hope this improves because I want to buy Pokemon games again.

I'm thinking Legends is probably getting delayed, but I honestly don't care considering how it looks like it will be so good!

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

*They announced DP remakes and an open-world game.
*People complain about how short the presentation was and how they had nothing good to show.

Between this and the Nintendo Direct, it's pretty depressing being excited for stuff.

That's the Pokemon fanbase, always complaining about something.

 

[smashkirby]

Better.

Cynthia with Spiritomb, Milotac, and Garchomp.

Regardless though, I'd love for that. A shark character needs to be on the roster.

Spoiler

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't cautiously considering the option of Cynthia being a possibility...

 

[chocolatejr9]

*They announced DP remakes and an open-world game.
*People complain about how short the presentation was and how they had nothing good to show.

Between this and the Nintendo Direct, it's pretty depressing being excited for stuff.

Hey, I enjoyed both more than that State of Play...

Though the news about Japan Studio might have impacted that a little.

 

[Arcadenik]

Alright, took a while, here is the final result for the Pokemon Day 25th university favorite Pokemon Japanese Twitter voting campaign:

Well, at least Meowth did (a whole lot) better in this poll compared to the Google poll.

 

[JOJONumber691]

maybe, but it's just... he doesn't even use any of the Pokemon you gave him

if you don't want another Gen 1 mon, how about Rhyperior? He's technically a Sinnoh mon

I mostly gave him an Armored Mewtwo because that's an Echo that could help ease development for a Three-in-One Character. Though, Honchcrow could be interesting, considering he actually uses him lol. And I think giving Giovanni Two Legendries would fit his character INCREDIBLY Well. Now, who the Second Legendary is depends tbh. Also, in Ultra Sun/Moon he used a Mewtwo lol..

 

[Arcadenik]

Sakurai Cat spotted:

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Do with this information as you will.

Sakurai tweets a picture of Duck Hunt Dog with a cat on Pokémon Day?

It is clearly a coded message for those who wanted Duck Hunt Dog and a certain cat Pokémon in Smash.

Poké Ball Meowth upgraded to playable fighter confirmed.

 

[Sigran101]

Reasons I can think of that got people into Sony in the past?

Unlike Nintendo (before Switch atleast), Sony actually got third parties
Unlike Microsoft, Sony actually had a decent number of first party franchises it worked with, and didn't just stick with 1 or 2 IPs.

And some Sony fans are probably more into consoles and had no interest investing in PC gaming, so that's a moot point.

As to what makes people get into Sony NOW?...I dunno.

Well for me it's a few reasons. For one, my $400 PS5 can run games roughly the same as a $2000 PC, so that's a win. I also love the exclusives- Spiderman, God of War, Persona, Last of Us, Horizon, Demon's Souls, etc. Additionally I get 3 free games a month with PSPlus, and there's actually a lot of high quality ones. I got Control for free this month for example. As someone who only got into Sony in the PS4 era I also appreciate the over 900 games from PlayStation history I get access to for $5 a month with PSNow. The PSPlus collection is a great value as well.

 

[ZelDan]

TBH I don't really hate the overall artstyle of the DP remakes.

I mean, I'm not super crazy about the chibi characters myself either, but atleast they get more realistic proporrtions once in battle. Outside of that? I dunno, the game looked gorgeous to me. At the very least I'll take what they are doing with the DP remakes art style than the fugly wild area in Sword/Shield.

I've never played the original DP, so I'm probably going to get the remakes.

 

[DarkFalcon]

I'm just personally not fond of the overly clean, flat art style. Kinda feels like cel shading done wrong.

 

[Deleted member]

Well for me it's a few reasons. For one, my $400 PS5 can run games roughly the same as a $2000 PC, so that's a win. I also love the exclusives- Spiderman, God of War, Persona, Last of Us, Horizon, Demon's Souls, etc. Additionally I get 3 free games a month with PSPlus, and there's actually a lot of high quality ones. I got Control for free this month for example. As someone who only got into Sony in the PS4 era I also appreciate the over 900 games from PlayStation history I get access to for $5 a month with PSNow. The PSPlus collection is a great value as well.

FF7 Remake is one of the Free games for the month of March. Sony was the home for RPGs as well for a LONG time. Xbox finally got a critically acclaimed RPG to itself in the form of Mass Effect, but that was the only noteworthy one it had for quite awhile.

Meanwhile Nintendo was the place to go for Platformers (Zelda & Mario) and 'Party' Games (Mario Parties, Mario Kart, Any of the Sports games).

Nintendo had Pokemon and Fire Emblem as their RPGs, but that was on the handhelds and most people didn't consider it in the same category as a console; it was kinda like a subcategory to most gamers. Not that it was less loved; it just wasn't considered the same. Not to mention Fire Emblem didn't really explode and get more mainstream popularity until near the end of the 3DS' lifecycle with Awakening.

 

[SKX31]

Yo they showed off Lucario in Legends, you think they'll add Lucario in Smash?

This message has been officially sponsored by the #PlzBuffLucario gang.

Also, kinda unrelated:

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That's the big metro ball in Shanghai, which is a major ad spot. In other words, Psyduck confirmed.

 

[RoboFist]

I'm seeing a lot of people complaining about how Legends still doesn't look half as good as DQ11 or BotW. And they're right, it doesn't.

But if you're still holding onto the hope that GF will ever make a game that is graphically on par with something Square-Enix or Nintendo can make, then that sounds like a you problem. It's GF, it's Pokemon, you should know what you're getting by now.

I've been very vocally critical of GF for years, but even I have to applaud them when they take a big step in a better direction. Legends looks to be what a 3D Pokemon game should've been from the very start. Of course I also hope that they're going to iron out the many animation problems that we saw in the teaser before the game launches. At the same time, this is still the biggest shake-up in core gameplay that the Pokemon franchise has ever seen. Graphics aside, this is extremely exciting.

Will GF screw it up? Probably. Will I buy the game at launch? Absolutely not, I'll wait until a bunch of video reviews pop up on YouTube to see for myself how it all looks and plays. Do fans have every right to be suspicious as all hell? 100%.

But I think this is the first time I'm allowing myself to be cautiously optimistic since X and Y.

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

I thought they would use "Let's Go" base as a foundation for the grid style layout and overworld, But the "In Game Battle" looks similar to "Let's Go".

Looks very faithful to the original games, Though the art style does take a little time to get used to as I think "Let's Go Pikachu" did a much better job in that area.

Still very excited, Haven't played D/P in a very long time and this will likely be my "Holiday" title for this year.

 

[YoshiandToad]

I'm not sold on the Diamond and Pearl remakes either, even outside the art style.
If it pulls an ORAS and negates to put any of the much needed QoL improvements Platinum brought forward, yeesh. No idea why ORAS skipped over Emerald's improvements to the Hoenn region and I'm getting similar vibes from BDSP.

Legends momentarily had my interest as I thought they were actually trying something new and exciting with the gameplay. The series is evolving! Finally!
But then I saw the actual battling and it's...just more of the same with a vaguely Breath of the Wild and Monster Hunter Rise infused coat of paint.
Also I don't know if anyone saw Chimchar being caught but...wow...that's like five frames per second on the animation there. Looks really bad.
We're early on(ish...got a year) so fingers crossed this all gets a polish and that poor Chimchar gets some inbetweens added so he doesn't act like Mr. Game and Watch.
Legends has potential, but I have no faith that Gamefreak will live up to it.

New Snap looks unironically beautiful though. I'll be interested to see exactly how many Pokemon are appearing in this one, but so far it's the clear winner of the bunch for me.

 

[Staarih]

I've never played the original DP, so I'm probably going to get the remakes.

You're the prime target audience, I think even in the video they said the games are for "those who have not experienced Sinnoh before" or something along those lines. It's mostly those who have played D/P who complain about them not being the remakes they wanted. Fair argument, sure, but this is what we're getting and... that's it haha.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I’m actually quite pleased with what we got today. While I think some complaints may be valid based on different opinions, I do kinda feel like it’s...kinda weird given the fact that the game is our first true open world Pokémon game and won’t be out for a year or more.

I would assume the end product won’t look like this. Give it some time, and don’t forget the good things to come out of the reveals.

 

[ahemtoday]

Is it true that a secondary team is working on the Sinnoh remakes? If so, that might mean they're not a major priority for GF - meaning they'd rather promote something else. Maybe that Pokemon Legends.

...Wait, that takes place in Sinnoh, as well. This doesn't change anything regarding promotional picks for Smash.

 

[SharkLord]

The old-school chibi style Gen 4 remakes are an... Interesting decision. It's like they realized they should dial it back a little after the divisive reception to SwSh. Try and go back to the older graphic styles instead of advancing when they're not ready yet. Not sure how I feel about that, honestly. I'd have preferred they stick to the more detailed proportions. Heck, they could've even reused the SwSh engine, at least; With a smaller environment, it would be easier to bring out the best in the textures. Of course, I can understand why they'd want to go for a more low-key project, given the second game.

I'm cautiously optimistic for Legends. Graphics-wise, I think it looks great, though admittedly I have pretty low standards. Still, it's good to see Game Freak grow and improve. It looks like they're trying to shake things up this time around, instead of staling with the same old formula. Wonder how progression's gonna go. Though, the framerate does look rather shaky at points. Still, it's a year away. Hopefully GF has some time to clean it up.

 

[N3ON]

The Gen 4 remakes are the lost up-res'd Wii games I was looking for, lol.
(Not really though.)

I've been drifting away from the Pokemon series for a while now, waiting for it to evolve (heh) more substantially, and Legends Arceus seems like something I'll keep my eye on.

Though apparently I've been saying Arceus wrong this entire time. Another Groudon moment, I guess.

I thought the presentation was pretty decent though. Seems like we got what people were expecting, plus more. Even if the intro did take up like a quarter of it. xD

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Those games look decent. D/P artstyle is a little weird but it’s something to get used to.
Legends Arceus looks very promising. I’m interested to see how it works in more detail. Frame rate seemed a little off in some areas though.

 

[RealLuigisWearPink]

imagine two years ago telling a Pokemon fan that there would be news about a new Snap game and announcements for sinnoh remakes and a big possibly open world action rpg. people would freak.

and we have it and people are ****ting on it lol. to be fair, that chibi artstyle for the remakes is uhh not the best choice

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

I'm just personally not fond of the overly clean, flat art style. Kinda feels like cel shading done wrong.

If I had to pick one thing, it's the lack of an outline. The outline goes a long way towards helping the cel look.


My personal opinion on DP remakes? It looks cheap... which unfortunately "cheap" is kind of the word here. Pokemon Company learned all the wrong lessons from GO and other mobile successes. They can cut corners and still get rich. Ironic that a mobile game looking better is the comparison in this image.

 

[TwiceEXE]

I’m actually quite pleased with what we got today. While I think some complaints may be valid based on different opinions, I do kinda feel like it’s...kinda weird given the fact that the game is our first true open world Pokémon game and won’t be out for a year or more.

I would assume the end product won’t look like this. Give it some time, and don’t forget the good things to come out of the reveals.

I would be willing to give a different company the benefit of the doubt about the finished product being different, but I don't have that level of confidence in GF. I'm certainly not going to pass judgement right now and call it a lost cause, but I think it's totally reasonable to think "This probably needs longer than 1 year of dev time".

 

[TheCJBrine]

Idk I think it just comes down to a preference of art style, personally I like both the cel-shaded anime-esque look and the toon look.

Anyway can’t wait for Cyndaquil to get confirmed as Fighter 10 get hyped Cyndaquil fans!

 

[PeridotGX]

Is the social thread dead?

Anyway, BDSP looks... not great, but Arceus has potential.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Pokemon 25 Art

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