Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Lamperouge]

Y'all are so busy riding rumors and theories that you forget that is ok to not be a sheep and want something that isn't talked about 24/7 Like my drum baby Don-chan

Not everyone who support the most frequently discussed characters are sheep. We just want cool ****ing characters and a lot of the top dogs of speculation are just that.

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

Why do people still consider the idea of something "fitting" in Smash? As long as you're an important part of a game series notable to Nintendo or gaming in some way, you "fit" in Smash. Do you think Samus and Fox fit alongside each other??

I'd argue both Palico and the Hunter would fit in the same amount. Usually, Smash likes going for the character that makes you feel like you're playing the game though so my bet would be the Hunter if Sakurai doesn't consider Rathalos enough representation.

And then we got Pyra and Mythra instead of Rex. You're not wrong, but the amount I've seen this argument in the past week is funny considering who we're getting next month.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

I'm thinking Rhythm Heaven gets screwed over by Nintendo not wanting to pay Royalties to Tsunku. That and Tsunku has Cancer which makes things even more complicated legally.

I don't think that his cancer has something to do with it. He said he still wanted to compose music despite that he's now deaf Mute (he had his vocal chords removed) and he still want to make a new Rhythm heaven games. But yeah I think those games cost way more to produce than what they sold so Nintendo just give up with the ip.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Is there any proof the MH team wouldn’t like the Hunters in Smash aside from a statement from 10 years ago that may not even reflect everyone on the team, or even any of their modern-day opinions?

Also, Palicoes don’t seem any better than the Hunters for representing the series, especially with the player controlling a Hunter and hunting these monsters being the main point of the series.

I haven’t played MH and so I don’t particularly care whether we get a Hunter or Palico or whatever, but still these arguments against a Hunter don’t sound very good imo.

I don't think that his cancer has something to do with it. He said he still wanted to compose music despite that he's now deaf (he had his vocal chords removed) and he still want to make a new Rhythm heaven games. But yeah I think those games cost way more to produce than what they sold so Nintendo just give up with the ip.

Wouldn’t that make him mute, not deaf?

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

...he's now deaf (he had his vocal chords removed)

Did you mean mute, or his he mute and deaf?

If it's the latter then I feel very sorry for him.

 

[Idon]

Y'all are so busy riding rumors and theories that you forget that is ok to not be a sheep and want something that isn't talked about 24/7 Like my drum baby Don-chan

Me:"Yo who wants to talk about the Demi-fiend from Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne?"

Everyone else:

Time to go into sheep mode.

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

To be fair, Speculation/Predicting and wanting are entirely different things

Tell it to the mods.

 

[Diddy Kong]

In any case, the Pyra / Mythra reveal made me buy XB2, getting it in the mail tomorrow. Any beginner tips?

 

[RGFS]

And then we got Pyra and Mythra instead of Rex. You're not wrong, but the amount I've seen this argument in the past week is funny considering who we're getting next month.

I was talking about new series there. Pyra and Mythra are from Xenoblade who already have the there main character Shulk. It makes more sense than if we got Luigi before Mario or Diddy before DK. Plus, aren't they still basically playable in Xenoblade 2, and isn't switching between them part of the gameplay?

We got Pikachu before Pokemon Trainer so mascots are still something that is part of the choice for new series. For Ultimate, we did get Rathalos instead of a Hunter already for Smash so there's another example.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Did you mean mute, or his he mute and deaf?

If it's the latter then I feel very sorry for him.

Oh yeah I actually meant mute, going to edit it.

 

[rexfan53]

Probably the newest one, or the one from Guilty Gear Xrd.


That's what the 3D animation style is. It's just the 2D method of drawing each frame by hand, but with 3D models. Might be too much work, but it's not too hardware intensive since we're not trying to replicate the anime artstyle.

EDIT: Personally, I think whether or not they'd do it depends on how much time they have, and whether or not it looks good with the other characters animating at higher framerates. If Sol is the last character and they were working on him throughout the pass, I think they would at least attempt it.


And your arguments as to why were that the Palicos were a better representative for the series, which I counterargued that they're not because they aren't a part of the series core focus. You supported that claim by saying that the Palicos have personality while the Monster Hunter has doesn't (to which I pointed out that they very much do), and that the Palico wouldn't become dated like the Monster Hunter would (which I also disagreed with).

Its not because of personality for the palicos though, i never said that. That was only the case w the hunter

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

In any case, the Pyra / Mythra reveal made me buy XB2, getting it in the mail tomorrow. Any beginner tips?

Be patient and don't worry about 100% for a while. The gameplay starts pretty slow, but it picks up eventually.

I was talking about new series there. Pyra and Mythra are from Xenoblade who already have the there main character Shulk. It makes more sense than if we got Luigi before Mario or Diddy before DK. Plus, aren't they still basically playable in Xenoblade 2, and isn't switching between them part of the gameplay?

We got Pikachu before Pokemon Trainer so mascots are still something that is part of the choice for new series. For Ultimate, we did get Rathalos instead of a Hunter already for Smash so there's another example.

I think Fire Emblem would be a better analogy. Shulk is only the main protagonist of Xenoblade 1. My point is that you don't play as Pyra ever and you don't play as Mythra until the prequel. It's just funny to me how much people are pushing that a character has to be the playable character. I agree that a hunter is way more likely than a Palico. I just don't agree that the argument about playable status is super strong right now.

Edit: I should say they aren't directly playable. Pyra kinda hangs out in the background and holds her arms out until you do a super.

 

[RGFS]

Me:"Yo who wants to talk about the Demi-fiend from Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne?"
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Everyone else:

Time to go into sheep mode.

I mean, seeing SMT in Smash felt very likely in my head for a second pass after Joker. It was weird to see the spin-off not big on Nintendo get in first. As the pass has gone on, I'm not sure but it's worth mentioning there's absolutely no content from the series in Smash soooooo.

Would it be the protagonist from the newest game or one of the older ones? I have no clue there.

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

Do you think Samus and Fox fit alongside each other??

Yes. Rathalos armor is ugly as ****. If you think a Hunter in that armor fits with Fox as much as Samus, we have irreconciliable design sensibilities. (If you're talking about ZSS, then the difference isn't as great, but still significant.)

Me:"Yo who wants to talk about the Demi-fiend from Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne?"

He's probably going in my latest roster (but it has 60 characters, so it's not very realistic).

 

[Idon]

Personally speaking any Monster Hunter content in the 2nd Fighter's Pass would disappoint the HELL out of me.
Not because I dislike Monster Hunter as a character or a franchise, but because it would kill Dante, my most wanted character since forever.

Buuuuuuuuut if I had to choose...

Given the option of a small humanoid cat with a bunch of miscellaneous tools and small weapons vs a giant armored person with an even giant-er greatsword and maybe some traps, I think the giant greatsword armor dude would be my personal pick.

If he was to get chosen though I'd have to wonder if they'd includ wirebug mechanics or the clutch claw. Or both?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I wanna play as a monster.

Give me Rajang or Gore Magala.

Give me Great Maccao or give me death

 

[rexfan53]

In any case, the Pyra / Mythra reveal made me buy XB2, getting it in the mail tomorrow. Any beginner tips?

Beginner tip is to pay attention to the menus and affinity levels so you don't get stuck or have to do grinding. Also don't look up any suggestive media surrounding the game or media in general since it will spoil the game

 

[RGFS]

Be patient and don't worry about 100% for a while. The gameplay starts pretty slow, but it picks up eventually.


I think Fire Emblem would be a better analogy. Shulk is only the main protagonist of Xenoblade 1. My point is that you don't play as Pyra ever and you don't play as Mythra until the prequel. It's just funny to me how much people are pushing that a character has to be the playable character. I agree that a hunter is way more likely than a Palico. I just don't agree that the argument about playable status is super strong right now.

I almost want to agree but we are yet to see a series' non-playable character make it into Smash before a protagonist or mascot of the series. It could totally happen, it just feels like Sakurai doesn't want it to happen.

Even with Min Min, Sakurai wanted to make it clear that she was still a protagonist for Arms.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Me:"Yo who wants to talk about the Demi-fiend from Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne?"

Everyone else:


Time to go into sheep mode.

lol

Similarly, one look at my Fighter Pack ideas characters will tell you all you need to know about why I rarely bring up my wanted characters.

In any case, the Pyra / Mythra reveal made me buy XB2, getting it in the mail tomorrow. Any beginner tips?

Find a good explanation of the battle system. The tutorial sucks. I'd personally recommend Chuggaaconroy's playthrough.

EDIT: rexfan53 makes a good point about the spoilers. Luckily though, Chugga's playthrough doesn't have any unless you watch a part that you haven't gotten to yet.
EDIT EDIT: Or the video posted below should cover it as well if you don't want to watch custcenes twice.

Its not because of personality for the palicos though, i never said that. That was only the case w the hunter

no. They'd just use a palico in general since it's better representation. they don't need to give them personality.

By saying this you heavily implied that the Palicos have personality while the Monster Hunter does not. Even if that's not what you meant, it still implies that the Monster Hunter would have to be given a personality, which is also untrue.

The only interpretation that I wouldn't contest is simply that the Palicos don't need personality injected into them, but that's not a helpful argument as that applies to pretty much all characters.

 

[SWSU]

More fitting how? Ever since the beginning Smash has used more artstyles beyond cartoony furry creature and the Hunter doesn't even use an artstyle that doesn't already exist in Smash as we have plenty of fantasy styled characters

Its just a Vibe thing I get, Like Aesthetically I just struggle to see how some of the "Armored Nameless Medieval Fantasy" Characters would fit into the Roster itself. Yes I am aware we have characters like Villager who are canonly nameless, but they fit the vibe of Smash.

Honestly the only ones who don't really seem to easily fit into the Aesthetic are all of which are Video Game Icons (Aside from Richter, but he's an echo so w/e)

It's the same reason I've doubted we'd ever get like a Skyrim, Bloodborne, or any rep along those lines. The game they're from may be Iconic and big and worth promoting, but the character themself is kind of just an avatar for the player and nothing else. And while they might use them for First Party Reps. For Third Party Reps, it seems Unlikely to me.

While Palico, (Unless I'm mistaken since I'm not a big MH Expert) Seems to have been more consistent in these games than the Hunters, which kinda seem to rotate between games. (Again, not an expert, so I might be wrong). And since none of the Hunters seem to have Iconic Legacies like Hero has. Palico might be a more universal representative.


But that's just a Monster Hunter Analysis from a guy who barely knows Monster Hunter lol.

 

[Lamperouge]

In any case, the Pyra / Mythra reveal made me buy XB2, getting it in the mail tomorrow. Any beginner tips?

Got the perfect video for ya.

 

[Firox]

Hey, guys, not sure if this has already been discussed yet, but apparently there was a leak on Jan 8th that detailed a Smash Bros orchestra concert scheduled for 2022 to celebrate the completion of Smash Ultimate. The song list apparently predicted Pyra/Mythra via "Counter attack" which was supposed to come after "One winged Angel". If the songs reflect the order of reveals, then the next song was claimed to be "N. Sanity Beach" from Crash Bandicoot and then "Proof of a Hero" from Monster Hunter: https://www.dexerto.com/smash/huge-...-leak-reveals-remaining-dlc-fighters-1519043/

I gotta say, I usually lean towards any and all modern leaks to be fake, but the suspicious prediction of a XC2 rep adds a little credibility. What do you guys think? Real or not real? I mean, Crash and Monster Hunter both seem VERY viable, but then again, they seem like very safe picks that Sakurai tends to shy away from.

 

[chocolatejr9]

In any case, the Pyra / Mythra reveal made me buy XB2, getting it in the mail tomorrow. Any beginner tips?

Try this:

 

[Schnee117]

Calling people sheep for wanting characters who happen to be speculated a bunch doesn't endear others to whoever it is you want. You can make a case for your character without being an ass.

 

[Idon]

Hey, guys, not sure if this has already been discussed yet, but apparently there was a leak on Jan 8th that detailed a Smash Bros orchestra concert scheduled for 2022 to celebrate the completion of Smash Ultimate. The song list apparently predicted Pyra/Mythra via "Counter attack" which was supposed to come after "One winged Angel". If the songs reflect the order of reveals, then the next song was claimed to be "N. Sanity Beach" from Crash Bandicoot and then "Proof of a Hero" from Monster Hunter: https://www.dexerto.com/smash/huge-...-leak-reveals-remaining-dlc-fighters-1519043/

I gotta say, I usually lean towards any and all modern leaks to be fake, but the suspicious prediction of a XC2 rep adds a little credibility. What do you guys think? Real or not real? I mean, Crash and Monster Hunter both seem VERY viable, but then again, they seem like very safe picks that Sakurai tends to shy away from.

Yeah some people brought it up the other day.

Frankly the thought of a concert with that many songs is just... insane.
I appreciate the originality that went into making it but I've my doubts.

 

[Shroob]

Hey, guys, not sure if this has already been discussed yet, but apparently there was a leak on Jan 8th that detailed a Smash Bros orchestra concert scheduled for 2022 to celebrate the completion of Smash Ultimate. The song list apparently predicted Pyra/Mythra via "Counter attack" which was supposed to come after "One winged Angel". If the songs reflect the order of reveals, then the next song was claimed to be "N. Sanity Beach" from Crash Bandicoot and then "Proof of a Hero" from Monster Hunter: https://www.dexerto.com/smash/huge-...-leak-reveals-remaining-dlc-fighters-1519043/

I gotta say, I usually lean towards any and all modern leaks to be fake, but the suspicious prediction of a XC2 rep adds a little credibility. What do you guys think? Real or not real? I mean, Crash and Monster Hunter both seem VERY viable, but then again, they seem like very safe picks that Sakurai tends to shy away from.

No, Verg didn't say this recently, but this is the most relevant time to post this.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Got the perfect video for ya.

I know I'm supposed to do the Greninja thing, but I never learned how to do that.

So instead, I'll say this: YU STOL MA JERB!!!!!

 

[SpectreJordan]

While we wait for Pyra i'll ask, assuming Crash and Monster Hunter are the last of fp2 predict 7 REALLISTIC characters that fp3 will have in no order, maybe provide an explanation for them too. i'll start.

Yuri Lowell (Tales of) - this makes much more sense than most other namco characters (cuz harada) with the only competition being don chan really, however for the history i think it'll likely be Yuri that get's in.

Karate Joe (Rhythm Heaven) - Since here has been a continues dev cycle it's likely they could revisit Rhythm Heaven since if Monster Hunter get's in its the last known character who was cut we have, Karate Joe has been in every game so I'll say he's the likeliest. Rhythm heaven is Nintendo's next biggest rep (at the time of when the roster was decided) so i think it finally deserves it's chance in smash.

Arle Nadja (Puyo Puyo/ Madou Monogatari) - Arle makes much more sense than tetris as a puzzle rep mostly because there can be a better moveset than whack with block, on top of puyo's she has all of her spells she could use, not to mention she could pull form madou monogatari if they wanted to get a bit more obscure with her moveset. Puyo Puyo is a huge franchise in Japan especially, it makes sense.

Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden) - Koei tecmo will probably get a character in and Hayabusa seems to be the most popular request so i'll go with him.

Ring Fit Aventurer (Ring Fit - Nintendo's biggest new ip (it could probably even outdo Splatoon) while i think this'll be a one off game since the team that worked on it usually makes one off's i think it'll definitely get in smash.

Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney) - this is basically the de facto visual novel series, and phoonix is an icon of gaming, i think he makes sense as Capcom's after monster hunter rep.

Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear) - I don't know, i think a Style savvy rep is more likely but i think Sol is more realistic.

Officer Howard (Astral Chain)
Ring Fit Trainee
Master Chief
Crono
Ryu Hayabusa or Lloyd/Yuri
Chun-Li

If we get another round of DLC & it’s more than 4 characters, then I think 6 would be the limit. Just like the first round of DLC (Plant + FP1) & FP2.

If we get more DLC then I think Officer Howard & the Trainee are guaranteed. They’re from two games that are big hits on the Switch & definitely have a sequel in the pipeline.

Microsoft has been pretty easy to work with so far, so it’s a no brainer to go after their mascot next.

Square doesn’t seem as hard to work with as we previously thought. Crono’s name has floated around before & he’d be a popular pick.

Ryu & a Tales character both have a decent amount of rumors surrounding them. I also think they’d be popular picks.

Chun-Li has some rumors about her, as well as her being the biggest secondary character not in Smash yet.

 

[RileyXY1]

Yeah some people brought it up the other day.

Frankly the thought of a concert with that many songs is just... insane.
I appreciate the originality that went into making it but I've my doubts.

Yeah, and there's no song listed for Ken. I think it's fake, likely because I don't think that both of the remaining characters would be big hitters like Crash and Monster Hunter.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Yeah, and there's no song listed for Ken. I think it's fake, likely because I don't think that both of the remaining characters would be big hitters like Crash and Monster Hunter.

Yeah, especially the Monster Hunter bit. I'm pretty confident in those costumes coming back...

 

[Mamboo07]

What's all this talk about sheep?

You guys discussing about farm animals?

 

[ES. Dinah]

Hey, guys, not sure if this has already been discussed yet, but apparently there was a leak on Jan 8th that detailed a Smash Bros orchestra concert scheduled for 2022 to celebrate the completion of Smash Ultimate. The song list apparently predicted Pyra/Mythra via "Counter attack" which was supposed to come after "One winged Angel". If the songs reflect the order of reveals, then the next song was claimed to be "N. Sanity Beach" from Crash Bandicoot and then "Proof of a Hero" from Monster Hunter: https://www.dexerto.com/smash/huge-...-leak-reveals-remaining-dlc-fighters-1519043/

I gotta say, I usually lean towards any and all modern leaks to be fake, but the suspicious prediction of a XC2 rep adds a little credibility. What do you guys think? Real or not real? I mean, Crash and Monster Hunter both seem VERY viable, but then again, they seem like very safe picks that Sakurai tends to shy away from.

A lucky guess Xenoblade 2 song (a very easy one to guess at that) does not give that leak any credibility. And they are no way in hell having a orchestra to do 90+ songs in 3 hours. Doesn't it take like 28 hours to listen to every base game song already?

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Its just a Vibe thing I get, Like Aesthetically I just struggle to see how some of the "Armored Nameless Medieval Fantasy" Characters would fit into the Roster itself. Yes I am aware we have characters like Villager who are canonly nameless, but they fit the vibe of Smash.

Honestly the only ones who don't really seem to easily fit into the Aesthetic are all of which are Video Game Icons (Aside from Richter, but he's an echo so w/e)

It's the same reason I've doubted we'd ever get like a Skyrim, Bloodborne, or any rep along those lines. The game they're from may be Iconic and big and worth promoting, but the character themself is kind of just an avatar for the player and nothing else. And while they might use them for First Party Reps. For Third Party Reps, it seems Unlikely to me.

That doesn't make any sense. We have midevil characters (Link, Young Link, Hero, every single Fire Emblem character) and we have strictly avatar characters (Steve, Villager, Inkling, Byleth, Hero, etc.). Why would putting both together no longer fit?

I know I'm supposed to do the Greninja thing, but I never learned how to do that.

So instead, I'll say this: YU STOL MA JERB!!!!!

Smilies are between the insert image and insert tabs at the top of the writing area thingy. Not saying you have to put Greninja up there, just letting you know so you can use smilies if you want.

 

[chocolatejr9]

What's all this talk about sheep?

You guys discussing about farm animals?

We're talking about how Wooloo would be the best Gen 8 rep.

Wait, we weren't? Well, we are now!

 

[JustASora/CrashSupporter]

What's all this talk about sheep?

You guys discussing about farm animals?

Shaun The Sheep is going to be the next DLC character and I'm all for it.

 

[rexfan53]

Personally speaking any Monster Hunter content in the 2nd Fighter's Pass would disappoint the HELL out of me.
Not because I dislike Monster Hunter as a character or a franchise, but because it would kill Dante, my most wanted character since forever.

Buuuuuuuuut if I had to choose...

Given the option of a small humanoid cat with a bunch of miscellaneous tools and small weapons vs a giant armored person with an even giant-er greatsword and maybe some traps, I think the giant greatsword armor dude would be my personal pick.

If he was to get chosen though I'd have to wonder if they'd includ wirebug mechanics or the clutch claw. Or both?

Bbbbbut... we have no cat representation in smash bros

lol

Similarly, one look at my Fighter Pack ideas characters will tell you all you need to know about why I rarely bring up my wanted characters.


Find a good explanation of the battle system. The tutorial sucks. I'd personally recommend Chuggaaconroy's playthrough.

EDIT: rexfan53 makes a good point about the spoilers. Luckily though, Chugga's playthrough doesn't have any unless you watch a part that you haven't gotten to yet.
EDIT EDIT: Or the video posted below should cover it as well if you don't want to watch custcenes twice.



By saying this you heavily implied that the Palicos have personality while the Monster Hunter does not. Even if that's not what you meant, it still implies that the Monster Hunter would have to be given a personality, which is also untrue.

The only interpretation that I wouldn't contest is simply that the Palicos don't need personality injected into them, but that's not a helpful argument as that applies to pretty much all characters.

i didn't. I meant they don't need to give them character traits since they are already liked by the fanbase. The hunter wouldn't need a personality to be in smash. I was just mentioning that it was something that could help the mh team accept the hunter in crossovers or whatever they want to see. There's a reason why palicos and monsters and armor appear in spinoffs and not the hunters. If they want a playable character, they already have the armor on the miis, a monster, now all they need is a palico to complete the mh representation

idk why im still arguing about this because idg2f about mh

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

What's all this talk about sheep?

You guys discussing about farm animals?

They're adding Red Cap to Super Smash Bros. It's a weird choice, but OK.

 

[Idon]

That doesn't make any sense. We have midevil characters (Link, Young Link, Hero, every single Fire Emblem character) and we have strictly avatar characters (Steve, Villager, Inkling, Byleth, Hero, etc.). Why would putting both together no longer fit?

I think Monster Hunter actually doesn't have a 1:1 comparison with anyone in smash because they don't have a defined personality or quotes like the avatars nor do they have fantasy style clothing.

I think that's a good thing though;
it's unique and makes them stand out from the other Medieval fantasy characters. Those often have pretty anime faces with fashionable cloth clothing. A masked individual with a ridiculously oversized sword and clad head to toe in steel and scale would cut quite the figure standing next to everyone else.

... or they could have bikini unicorn armor.

 

[Arcanir]

Its just a Vibe thing I get, Like Aesthetically I just struggle to see how some of the "Armored Nameless Medieval Fantasy" Characters would fit into the Roster itself. Yes I am aware we have characters like Villager who are canonly nameless, but they fit the vibe of Smash.

Honestly the only ones who don't really seem to easily fit into the Aesthetic are all of which are Video Game Icons (Aside from Richter, but he's an echo so w/e)

It's the same reason I've doubted we'd ever get like a Skyrim, Bloodborne, or any rep along those lines. The game they're from may be Iconic and big and worth promoting, but the character themself is kind of just an avatar for the player and nothing else. And while they might use them for First Party Reps. For Third Party Reps, it seems Unlikely to me.

I'm curious: We already have avatar characters in those like Villager, PT, and Steve, we already have different aesthetic styles like you said with Simon, Cloud, and Snake, and we have medieval themed characters like Link, Marth, and Hero. So why is it that a character who does share those aspects is suddenly unviable?

While Palico, (Unless I'm mistaken since I'm not a big MH Expert) Seems to have been more consistent in these games than the Hunters, which kinda seem to rotate between games. (Again, not an expert, so I might be wrong). And since none of the Hunters seem to have Iconic Legacies like Hero has. Palico might be a more universal representative.

The Palico is like the Hunter in that both are recurring elements in the games. You use the Hunter as a character through who you hunt the monsters and get armors and weapons for them, and the Palico is your supportive companion. Basically, they're more like the sidekicks on your quest, they contribute to what you do, but hardly anymore important then the Hunter.

Personally, I love the Palicos, but the idea that they're a more universal representative is just false.

Bbbbbut... we have no cat representation in smash bros

: Incineroar...

: I even have 'Mew' in my damn name, can't get no respect around here...

 

[Dinoman96]

There's still that old saying that sums up most of these text "leaks" people keep falling for: monkeys on typewriters.

As in, Smash fans are basically monkeys making so many fake leaks that they're bound to get one or two things correct.