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Even if characters are times with anniversaries, there's still a %$#@ton of games with anniversaries in February. We'll basically be in the dark unless someone has a comprehensive list of games with February anniversaries, and chances are we'll just use it to keep talking about characters we already talk about.
Yeah, humans have been a thing since... well, there's Eggman, so they've been a thing since the very beginning. But they actually show up regularly in Adventure 1, Adventure 2, Shadow the Hedgehog, '06, and Unleashed. That's a pretty sizable chunk of the series, and some of their roles are pretty major besides that.
Don't take me the wrong way, I brought up Jessica and Roger Rabbit because I wanted to say that as an example to show that there are more human and animal couples out there.
In my opinion it's pretty pointless. I doubt Sakurai would go out of his way to tie a reveal togheter with an event that straight up gives it away, especially when you have to deal with numerous other fighters and demands and other things. Stuff like Steve being revealed next to minecon is just happy coincidence.
Hm that’s a far point. In that case, I really just find the Sonic universe to be nonsensical and generally unappealing.
Pretty much this. Where would the surprise be if everything lined up with anniversaries?
I don't think SEGA really cares at this point.
What, because it has anthro characters and humans simultaneously? Is it really that much of a dealbreaker?
The key difference is tone. Its one thing to laugh at the obvious visual mismatch of a cartoon rabbit and human looking knockout; its another to look at the Final Fantasy looking Elise and anthropomorphic Sonic and be deeply invested in it.
You bring up Chris and I remember everyone who cares too much about Sonic all agreeing that the girl in the wheelchair was more interesting and should have been the audience surrogate character, not to mention nobody hates the almighty Professor Pickle
Plus, story aside, if that is what we are talking about in terms of nonsensical, isn't literally any cartoonish series of any kind able to be possibly classified as nonsensical?
Yeah, but what did that have to do with what I said about the Roger Rabbit case being one example of many other possible such relationships?
No, but it is in part because it has that and doesn’t really bother to explain any of it. I know you could say the same for, say, Mario but Mario games don’t take themselves nearly as seriously as the sonic games do. It’s a matter of personal taste, I’m not trying to attack anyone.
I'd have to play the game for full context, but that probably makes it worse.
I was talking about future works as well. Going back to spritework for anything means they wouldn't have any assets to go off of unless they borrowed them from a 9 year old game, which means they'd have to do roughly 4 generations worth of work on top of doing a bunch of new moves, finding new ways to appeal without having the 3D models enhancing your connection to the Pokémon, doing the rest of the world, etc. I don't think it would be less work than just keeping the 3D look. They do know how to make it look good, they just need the time to actually do that.
Because it does in the sense that it's always a possibility.
iirc it does, but it only does so in the manuals of the older games, and the comics.
Why? Don't get me wrong, that does make sense, but I don't know why.
That's true, but then there are people who think it's the only realistic spot a character can be revealed.
Does it... need explaining? There's humans, and anthro animals, and this is a world where they both exist. I'm not sure what needs explaining. It's not like we need an explanation of why exactly Gorons exist in the Zelda series, or why Pokemon exist. They just do.
Because its explaining why one was better received and got much less flack by its audience than the other. That one example exists (and works well) does not automatically mean other ones are as good as that one or will be accepted as easily, especially when there is such a contrast in how they were executed. For example, the idea that the PS4 Marvel Avengers title is a live service game that does not work is not invalidated by the fact that Destiny is a live service game that does.
Why?
What was that again? Completely forgot.
To be fair, I did not say anything about any of those relationships, the Sonic one, the Roger Rabbit one, or any other one, were better than one another or getting more or less flack than another. Regardless of which was executed better, they are still there. That is my point to begin with.
'Cuz then it's not concentual.
That I would disagree with.
It has to do with the setting. Hyrule has a ton of fantastical creatures, so Gorons aren't really out of place, and Pokémon are essentially stand-ins for animals, so they make sense as well. Conversely Mobius is basically modern day Earth with cartoon animals running around
The one about how a Tales rep would have their reveal and/or Sakurai Presents timed to be before the Tales anniversary livestream, like with Steve and MineCon. The problem is that it keeps getting associated with the anniversary itself rather than the livestream, and I sorta feel responsible for pushing the anniversary-based reveal theories.
Consensual, you mean? I think I see what you mean. Given how serious the romance was supposed to be, I can see how Sonic possibly not making it consensual makes it worse.
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I see your point, but I think that sprite work is still much easier to accomplish, especially given gamefreaks history. Every 3D game they’ve released, except the remakes, to me have felt distinctly incomplete. Not bad or anything, just incomplete. I think it’s reasonable to believe they have some issues adapting to newer hardware. Sure they may get there eventually, but their process is so slow.
zelda isn’t really a good example. It’s a distinct fantasy setting with each race having their own culture and history. Sonic guys and humans coexisting isn’t a problem in and of itself, but like others have mentioned the tone feels really off to me. It’s not like Mario which feels distinctly cartoonish, the 3D sonic games kinda feel in between cartoony and realistic which really throws me off.
Gordon Freeman: First time?
Yes, it was just a bit late
I've never really cared for the series (don't hate it; don't love it; just feel neutral) but that stinks. I wonder what happened. Were people pulled off other projects to help pick up the COVID slack? Was the game too niche a series and higher-ups demanded it be placed on the back burner? Or is she just too thicc for Nintendo?
Lotta big Rumors today that MS is looking/in talks for another big publisher buyout. WB Games was probably at one point but they probably backed out when the parent company wouldn't guarantee IP exclusivity with the sale. Leaving them with basically MK and some Midway IPs...
— Matthew Simmons (@DoomAssistMe) January 29, 2021
Considering Retro has only just released a hiring post about a month ago where they're looking for a boss/ai designer I'm starting to think we won't see the game this year.
