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No, he did say that.
It sounds like what happened was that both the weaponmaster character and Byleth were planned at the same time, the former character's negotiations fell through and then got cut, Byleth absorbed their concept during development, then moved to DLC for one reason or another.
Again, I think you're missing the picture.
Why not? This isn't a malicious question or anything, I really wanna know why people think it's so impossible.
I understand it perfectly well. I just don't really agree with it. With the way Smash representation works in the modern era, trying to make characters as flavorful to their games as possible, I don't see the Smash team trying to reuse character archetypes across series, you know? It very much so seems like the approach to each character is to first figure out which characters are in, and then to decide how to represent them in as flavorful a manner as possible. Given this, why would they be looking to reuse broad concepts?
I think it could make sense if the thought process was something like:
Ultimate released December 7th, 2018.
The main differences is that A: SSBU's base roster was finalized three years before Three Houses' original release date, and B: Byleth wasn't a low-effort moveset clone who could be slapped together really quickly.
Well does Byleth even use the Regalia in their game, or do the House leaders? And even if Byleth does, is Byleth famous for using those, or their Sword of the Creator? Yes, Byleth symbolizes the weapon triangle.... kinda. Except bows are thrown in too? Which is not part of the standard weapon Triangle? Byleth is frankly a weapon square, not triangle.
Because that would imply Byleth was chosen during Fates' development cycle.
Roy was added late in development, and heavily uses Marth's assets. Byleth only uses a concept, and was planned from the very start. Regardless of the truth of the claim, the situations are quite different.
Jokes on you, I like cursed memes.
Please stop saying "it's not that difficult a concept". I understand it, I just don't agree with it.
Like I said, I got no leg in this debate, I just thought it was silly that soo many people(Not you in particular), were confusing the idea between "Weaponmaster concept" and, "Byleth literally absorbed the MH moves."
2017, after Echoes.
Incineroar is also not a low effort clone, who's game came out a year after the project plan for Ultimate was finalized.
It's too late. Imran's words have wormed its way in here.
Don't know about you, but it doesn't look like we're talking about it anymore. Just looks like Byleth again. Same old, same old...
Only thing I can think of is that Byleth was originally going to just have a standard FE sword user moveset until MH was scrapped and they implemented some concepts to Byleth instead to make them more unique rather than just using the standard sword moves. This change might have been the reason why they became DLC instead of base. I don't know though, I still don't fully believe this but just trying to think of an explanation.
Then its actually impossible.
A Roy situation is padding the roster with clones towards the end of development. Melee's development was 13 months, which means Roy was derived from an existing moveset sometime in 2001. His game came out early 2002. In 2001, his game would have the necessary assets for use (and even then Melee Roy doesn't reflect the design of finalized Roy), and Smash was in a stage where the original newcomers were already all added.
Well, given a normal development time is 3-5 years, probably also 2015. It would also make sense since the game uses Fire Emblem Warriors's graphical engine, and that game would have been 1-3 year(s) in development by that po-
Wait. The heck?!? How on Earth did they think they could get a game that large finished in a single year?
I mean, that doesn't make sense in general.
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Pichu delights in the suffering of others confirmed.
Well. That short development time would explain a delay that lasted a year.
"Who's my cute widdle sadomasochist? You are! Yes you are!"
Still, that just doesn't add up. They started development in 2017 with a 2018 release date? If they actually did that, then there's something wrong with Intelligent Systems.
Ok, that's something I could see a bit more but considering this concept usually comes from people upset about byleth, and that imran started his post saying it could all be wrong, I've got some heavy doubts. Just seems very suspicious to me, it's such a vague claim.
Sephiroth is stabbing Marth.
