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That hand spell is not a single spell, but literally part of a whole bunch of spells. Force, Carry, Move, Lift, Pound, Catch, Scoop and Lash, with Dark Dawn adding Grip, Crush and Slap. So that hand having alot of moves is not because of creative freedom, but because the hand was part of a lot of spells from the game.
There is literally only one user I've seen that's actively against assist trophies. Everyone else either doesn't care or has accepted that they might be possible.
Ahh, my lack of playing Golden Sun at all is showing. I misunderstood and though it was simple spell that had maybe one or two uses and that Sakurai and Co took creative liberty.
The point was, what parts of KH's content would require licensing other Disney properties. And other than his keychain fob, no part of Sora's design is a non-KH Disney copyright. Disney doesn'y have a copyright on big round shoes.
Except it's not censorship to just...not choose the Disney items in the first place.
And I don't, because they aren't video game character. So they should NEVER be in Smash.
Yeah...because SSF2 doesn't care about 4th party exclusions...and also doesn't pay for licensing.
I assume because they're also Smash fans. And no true Smash fan wants 4th party content in Smash.
"no true smash fan". ah, gatekeeping.
It's not really a "sin". However, it's been known for a while now that Smash is actually now treated officially(by Sakurai and Nintendo) as a game-character gaming crossover. So non-gaming 3rd parties is against that notion of design.
), so why open that can of worms when they had big name options that didn't have to?
Two things:
I'm pretty sure that the people who say Disney is absolutely essential aren't fans or even know much about the series considering I've never seen KH fans dismiss all the original content in game, so I wouldn't call it a disconnectSeeing the rather intense disconnect between the "Sora could work without Disney content" and "Sora needs Disney content" factions makes me increasingly unsurprised they haven't done it yet. You either disappoint people who think it's essential to KH and therefore KH's potential existence in Smash, or violate Smash's decades-long wall between video game characters and non-video game characters.
Meanwhile working with Square Enix for DLC seems to have been reasonably doable without even having to touch the issue of getting Big Mouse involved (
If im honest i he is not FP9 i don't think he will be in. Crash is the kind of guy you put as the centerpiece, and Sephiroth being the VGA reveal makes me doubt that he will be in at this point.
yeah but it's easier and faster than saying "non video game character"
We know, but its shorter than saying "non-video game character" or "character that hasn't debuted in a video game"
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Well for one thing, unlike the rest of them, she's not actually an indie character, even though people keep treating her like she is. She's from a now long running franchise from an established game developer.
Physically ill. Like, worse than Piranha Plant or another FE character.
Let's be real here though. Miis may have started as a way of adding CAC to Smash. But at this point, they mainly exist as a cheap, easy method to get other games into Smash.
Yes. Proudly. As 4th party content is literally the only gate that Sakurai himself stands atop with a vat of boiling oil.
Everything is a term if people use it. That's how language works.
yeah, i get that. but this isn't paul blart being a fighter, it's just a handful of characters heavily part of a game series but technically 4th party getting a minor appearance. this isn't gonna start some slippery slope.
FP9 isn't either(it's CP9), but you still know clearly what people mean.
I don't think it should be a change just because, either, but it would be a good way to spice those moves and make them less same-y.I'm trying to think of a reason why it should have a different button combo for those kind of moves. Isn't that part of what is usually the point of Down B? Up B is generally a Recovery move, Neutral B is often a projectile or some kind of hard-focus move(like Falcon Punch or Giant Punch would be), Side B is quite often a Rush or Self Launch move. Down B is Utility. It seems more of a design philosophy here. Not saying they can't work otherwise, but changing it just because shouldn't be a thing. One should look at what works well for a Side B in those cases. Cape and Doctor's Cape work great for that. As did the Whip Chain that Sheik used to use. Sometimes it works fine for projectiles if it's a "holding right" kind of thing with Zelse(or if it's a Smash-based move with the Boomerangs and Missiles). It can vary.
That said, it's been done, so do you have any examples of ones that fit well otherwise for Side B?
The argument had literally nothing to do with licensing, though.
I'm thinking Challenger Pack 10 is more likely for him because that would be in time for E3 and Fighter Pass 2 would take that into account since the roster was decided back in November 2019.
I have to agree. I have been ridiculously stubborn regarding character choices like Reimu, Sakura, Doomguy and others. But i would take all of them over the idea of a single Non-gaming character in Smash. It's the ONE thing Smash should never attempt, Floodgaters be damned (see i can make funny insults too) I believe Smash should still be about mostly Nintendo, but i can accept Third Parties in the condition that they are well.............VG characters. They help expand and allow the fans of the crossed franchises interact and can be a showcase that Nintendo's userbase is willing to play Non-Nintendo games (you know..........when the companies actually release them)
age means nothing - wayforward is still a small independent company, which is the basic definition of indie, and shantae's is an indie series, just an old one. plus, the fact that other indie games treat it as such constantly.
I think part of the problem is that Disney outright owns the Kingdom Hearts original characters, if the copyright at the start of the KH games is any indication.
Tbf that's probably why he's made it a hard rule since, he realized just how ****ing convoluted that would be with the rights, he's never expressed that desire since and has said "Nah it ain't happening" multiple times since.
They'd still need to license Mickey, Goofy and Donald to use them, which is where people are hung up on here.I think part of the problem is that Disney outright owns the Kingdom Hearts original characters, if the copyright at the start of the KH games is any indication.
So even if they don't use Disney characters like Mickey, Donald, or Goofy, Disney still has to get involved regardless. (which can be concerning for a variety of reasons, such as content being delisted after a certain amount of time like what happened with plenty of Marvel games or the Star Wars characters in Soul Calibur 4)
I honestly wasn't aware of that; I guess that would have worked a lot better as an example.
Yeah, what's weirder is that he was the only character in the entire game to be completely mute iirc, you'd think SE coming up with KH and doing all the work to build up the fanbase would mean Disney would give them more leeway, especially with KH's FF association
This doesnt sound familier at all
of course, if disney tries that with smash, they'd likely burn a major bridge or two, and probably get a huge amount of backlash.
They're really not. Some of their games are developed by teams of 50+ people. Which is more than some first party developers use on some games. They've developed over 100 games at this point, for themselves, for other companies, for huge licensed properties like Spongebob, DuckTales, Marvel, DC, etc.
Idk, Disney's smashed graves of multiple children and currently own 40% of the film industry. I'm not too sure they'd care
Same reason why everyone else* hates it: It's a Piranha Plant.
Yeah Disney is way way bigger than Nintendo. Crying smash fans would be a drop in the ocean for them. That said, 2020 was likely not a great year for them so I doubt they’d be looking to burn any bridges...getting content in Smash is pretty much free money.
I like Plant
Which is why I made the disclaimer. It was the best way I could write the sentence, but I didn't want it to be interpreted that I'm claiming that literally everyone hates it. I mean, I already prove such a generalization false so why would I try and make that claim?I like Plant
I'm actually not sure how I'd feel. Back in the day, I really wanted to unlock Tabuu. I thought he was super cool. During Smash 4 speculation, I played with the idea of Primid or Sandbag being playable. I think Sandbag would make for a pretty great surprise in the same vain as Wii Fit and Plant. Primid would be straight up lame. Overall, I'm probably less opposed than most people, considering Melee and Brawl were both childhood games for me. There are still plenty of characters that I'd want to see before an original Smash character, but finally getting to take control of Tabuu would make the kid inside of me very happy.
I feel like I should hate Plant because "it took Toad's spot," or "it took Waluigi's spot." Really though, I love Plant. Being surprised is always fun for me. On top of that, its animations are some of my favorite in the entire game. Plant feels like no other character in Smash, and I love it.I like Plant
1st: not sure which wayforward games those are, 2nd: 50+ is pretty common across the industry, 3rd: yes, oooh-aah, licensed games, not like companies that big have shifted them on to absolute nobodies.
Nah Disney is going to get so big that they'll start buying governments. Everything will eventually belong to Disney.
