Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Stepheon]

It's more that different things are being said based on the language of the tweet, and therefore the audience they're going to. The English one has no attempt to curb expectation, while the Japanese one warns of a character they might not be overly familiar with.

Of course it's being cut with our late stage speculation and punch-drunk hype of an imminent show, which magnifies the reaction. But it's still an interesting dichotomy you don't usually see, especially when it skews towards tempering Japanese expectation.

Because Sakurai rarely tweets in English at all, unless there's something he really wants the English crowd to hear. Doing it two days in a row is especially unheard of.

If the reveal was something like a Pokemon, the best course of action would've been to quietly announce it and celebrate the last Smash character as simply that-the last Smash character.. They know how much bad press overhyping something can generate, especially Sakurai himself, so why poke the beehive at this point? Why ask for non-Smash fans to watch, the group of people least likely to forgive an underwhelming reveal?

Not to sound pessimistic but that kind of makes me lose any interest I had for the final reveal…

It’s going to be someone I have no feelings toward like Master Chief or Jonesy… damn, this sucks for me. Congratulations to the western audience though for anyone that wanted them.

 

[Knight Dude]

Since no one else has said it, if we're talking "not well known in Japan", that might allude to a western character. Cool.

But what have we talked about in such a fashion?

MORTAL KOMBAT!

Let's go SUB-ZERO BAYBEEE!!!!!!

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

It's kind of getting lost in the hype-stoking from Sakurai and Harada, but I might share my reflection on Kazuya. Might also throw in Min-Min here as well since I missed that day.

First off, Min-Min, the Ramen Bomber.
Min-Min's fine. I've been rooting for an ARMS character since the beginning and it was a shame that Spring Man was out of the running since he's probably alongside Twintelle as one of my favourites in the ARMS cast, but Min-Min's a great character too. She's unique as a fighter in being able to swap out different ARMS and able attack from the front and behind her, so she's translated a lot of ARMS' 3D dynamics to Smash nicely. That said, I am aware that she's probably one of the more infamous top-tier characters and frustrating to fight against since she can just zone or keepaway for days. It may require fine-tuning, but Min-Min's a welcome addition if you ask me since ARMS is worthy of joining Smash.

Next is Kazuya - the Fist of Darkness.
I'll be honest, Kazuya drew a bit of a mixed reception from me initially - I'm not a big fan of Tekken, nor do I know how to play well outside of button-mashing or playing Akuma, Geese or Noctis in T7. So waking up to see Kazuya as the E3 reveal was a bit of a disappointment. Metroid Dread on the other hand oh my...

Actually seeing Kazuya in motion and him being a complete psycho in throwing people off cliffs? That actually warmed me up to Kazuya quite a bit. He's a super-powerful heavy hitter and managed to compress the multitude of attacks that Tekken is known for into Smash Bros, which is honestly quite impressive. Devil Gene being used for Specials also makes sense too and adds a certain flair to him as well. Also is nobody bringing up his insane Lvl 9 CPU? Fighting that thing is like a boss fight! The songs he came with are pretty solid; HEAT HAZE SHADOW, Yodeling in Meadow Hill and the remix of Kazuya Mishima, Devil Kazuya is actually my favourite of the Tekken songs included. Though seeing Dante as a Mii Costume... I'm thankful I ran out of speculation fuel and used up my sadness points in June because I would've (and still a little bit) been mad at seeing Dante reduced to a Mii Costume.

And now we're into the final 30 hours until the grand reveal... I honestly don't know what to expect. My heart is still hanging on to the hope that we get Phoenix Wright, Doomguy, Kiryu or Reimu... But I can't speculate. I've got assignments to work on!!!

 

[N3ON]

Not to sound pessimistic but that kind of makes me lose any interest I had for the final reveal…

It’s going to be someone I have no feelings toward like Master Chief or Jonesy… damn, this sucks for me. Congratulations to the western audience though for anyone that wanted them.

I mean, nothing is for sure. These tweets leave a lot of plausible deniability.

Having said that, regardless of what the western one says, the Japanese one warning that it may not be a character the audience is familiar with does make me think it's not going to be a character highly visible in Japan. Doesn't mean the character will inherently be western, maybe just that this character isn't some ubiquitous Japanese gaming figure.

Afaik, he doesn't often say things like that.

 

[Cyberfire]

I'm trying my best to temper my own expectations, but Sakurai man you are not helping!

 

[BlondeLombax]

Kazuya I liked initially for destroying yet another fanrule; that the franchise for Mii costumes is still legible to be added into the game. Then I played him and fell in love with the way he plays, followed by seeing how insane his LV9 CPU is to beat. He's definitely in the top 5 of my favorite batch of overall newcomers in this game.

Also yodeling.

 

[GolisoPower]

I mean, nothing is for sure. These tweets leave a lot of plausible deniability.

Having said that, regardless of what the western one says, the Japanese one warning that it may not be a character the audience is familiar with does make me think it's not going to be a character highly visible in Japan.

Afaik, he doesn't often say things like that.

I'm still damn well hopeful that it's Reimu, to be honest. I mean, yeah, I know Touhou is practically "Indie Gaming's Dragon Quest" over in Japan, but for the most part it seems to usually be other characters like Sakuya, Cirno and Youmu that seem to be the most popular.

 

[kirbstr]

I mean, nothing is for sure. These tweets leave a lot of plausible deniability.

Having said that, regardless of what the western one says, the Japanese one warning that it may not be a character the audience is familiar with does make me think it's not going to be a character highly visible in Japan. Doesn't mean the character will inherently be western, maybe just that this character isn't some ubiquitous Japanese gaming figure.

Afaik, he doesn't often say things like that.

Didn't he say the exact same thing prior to the Byleth reveal? Fire Emblem is pretty popular in Japan.

 

[Noipoi]

How well known is Gex in Japan?

 

[Wunderwaft]

Ahh to hell with it I'll throw away any hesitation I've had and go wild for the finale.

LET'S GO GORDON FREEMAN

 

[Knight Dude]

Whether it's likely or not, I'm also still gonna hope for Mega Man to get another character, another one of my favorite series point, blank period!

I'm not looking into any leaks or **** like that because I want to be surprised as I possibly can be.

 

[SpectreJordan]

Man, I’m loving that Sakurai & Harada are fanning the flames. I didn’t want this to be a quiet finale to these crazy 3 years where we just wait patiently for the conclusion. I wanted some exciting things to talk about before the end & we’re getting it, baby.

 

[Shroob]

Not to stir the pot, but I also just remembered that the presentation will be in the middle of the night for Japan.

If this isn't aimed at the west then I have no idea what Sakurai is doing.

The presentations are always at the same time, every time. I don't think the time means anything, considering they're always 7am PST/10am EST.

 

[Stepheon]

I mean, nothing is for sure. These tweets leave a lot of plausible deniability.

Having said that, regardless of what the western one says, the Japanese one warning that it may not be a character the audience is familiar with does make me think it's not going to be a character highly visible in Japan. Doesn't mean the character will inherently be western, maybe just that this character isn't some ubiquitous Japanese gaming figure.

Afaik, he doesn't often say things like that.

It just seems like a nail in the coffin for Sora though, and with all the hype surrounding him the past few days…any hope I had of it being him has just kind of been dashed upon the rocks.

He was my most wanted.

With what everyone is saying this means, all fingers point to a non-1st party, non-Japanese, character, and the only ones come to mind are Chief, Jonesy, or Crash. Western characters just don’t really excite me.

 

[Nekoo]

It just seems like a nail in the coffin for Sora though, and with all the hype surrounding him the past few days…any hope I had of it being him has just kind of been dashed upon the rocks.

He was my most wanted.

With what everyone is saying this means, all fingers point to a non-1st party, non-Japanese, character, and the only ones come to mind are Chief, Jonesy, or Crash. Western characters just don’t really excite me.

Smh, giving up hope.
Cheer up, chin up, be proud until the end of the song soldier.

 

[GolisoPower]

So, not to be a bit pedantic here, but I think the keyword in that tweet is "might"/"may". As in, it's not entirely guaranteed either way. It could be a grand-slam surprise for Japan, it could be a Little Mac-level obscure pick for Japan. Either way, that choice of wording, to me, plays up the vagueness that Sakurai seems to be known for.

 

[Momotsuki]

Well, there goes Reimu.
But now I'm really interested. Looking forward to it!

 

[BlondeLombax]

Expect nothing until you know everything. It could be an extremely niche pick even for Japan, another animu that draws the ire of people out of it, or something both sides of the pond find completely detestable. And it's gonna be great, no matter what.

 

[GolisoPower]

Well, there goes Reimu.
But now I'm really interested. Looking forward to it!

Again, keyword is might. May be sounding a bit pedantic here, but she's not entirely out of the ballpark just yet.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Someone asked before, but is Fortnite popular in Japan?

Also, lasagna.

 

[Stepheon]

Smh, giving up hope.
Cheer up, chin up, be proud until the end of the song soldier.

I guess I should take Utada’s lyrics to heart.
“Regardless, of warnings, the future doesn’t scare me at all.”

I know a lot of people have had characters they have wanted for years…this just hurts.

 

[Shroob]

"Maybe... I will get a good night's sleep before and just set my alarm..."

THIS

 

[Polan]

they made us wait two weeks for this so it better be something good. or else i have to question the judgement of splitting off the reveal from the direct

 

[MarioKartRenderOwner]

Someone asked before, but is Fortnite popular in Japan?

Also, lasagna.

when i was super into yokai watch and would check corocoro and famitsu fortnite would always be in them towards the end, idk if it's megaton there like it is here but it's 100% a thing in japan

 

[Noipoi]

"Maybe... I will get a good night's sleep before and just set my alarm..."
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If you’re pulling an all nighter tonight, you’re gonna need some sleep beforehand bro.

 

[Momotsuki]

Fortnite has a fair presence in Japan. Nothing insane but it is there.
It isn't bloody Jonesy, come on now.

 

[N3ON]

I'm still damn well hopeful that it's Reimu, to be honest. I mean, yeah, I know Touhou is practically "Indie Gaming's Dragon Quest" over in Japan, but for the most part it seems to usually be other characters like Sakuya, Cirno and Youmu that seem to be the most popular.

I mean, were it Reimu, I'd expect that if anybody were to get a warning, it'd be us in the west.

But you never know.

Didn't he say the exact same thing prior to the Byleth reveal? Fire Emblem is pretty popular in Japan.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Does anyone have the statement in question? I'd be interested to compare.

 

[Shroob]

If you’re pulling an all nighter tonight, you’re gonna need some sleep beforehand bro.

I'll be fine! I'll get my usual....3-4 hours.

 

[Knight Dude]

With one day left, good luck to all you crazy mother****ers. We've memed. We've dreamed. Some even schemed. Let's hope this last character is dope. From the Mascots, to the Annie-Mays, to the Punch McKicks to the Shooters. To the Booba Girls and the Himbos, from the Ninjas and Robots to the Robot Ninjas. From the old-school to the new-school. Somebody cool should be on the way. So don't get Diddled again. We get to go home and be family men. We get to test our might. We know what we're fighting for! It's Time to Split! Wave Battle! Ride on! And some other catchphrase.

We'll finish this. Right here. Right now. We're getting of this wild ride, Sakurai!

ThisbetterbetheendforthisgameIdon'twanttodothistypeofpostuntillike4yearslaterorwhatever.

 

[Polan]

I mean, were it Reimu, I'd expect that if anybody were to get a warning, it'd be us in the west.

But you never know.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Does anyone have the statement in question? I'd be interested to compare.

rudimentary google translate gives me something about a prophet? either way nothing like his comment that he made right now. dunno why someone is saying its exactly the same.

 

[N3ON]

rudimentary google translate gives me something about a prophet? either way nothing like his comment right. dunno why someone is saying its exactly the same.

I mean I think it corresponds to the English part where he's asking if any oracles can guess the character.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

I really don't think these tweets mean much. Sounds more to me like Sakurai is basically saying "hey all you casual gamers out there playing whatever! you might not know who this is, but you might think it's pretty cool, so tune in!"

I'm just gonna wait and see what happens here, we got like a day left anyway lol.

 

[Momotsuki]

Feels really out of character for Sakurai to take a sledgehammer to so many characters at once just before a reveal. But I mean, I can't argue with what I'm seeing, that's kind of what he's done! I no longer have any confidence as to who the hell this could be, and I love it.

 

[Polan]

I mean I think it corresponds to the English part where he's asking if any oracles can guess the character.

seems hes talking about hinting at the character via his pose which he was. i dont see anything thats similar to his "you may not know who this fighter is" comment.

 

[BlondeLombax]

Well, since there's far more of us on here at this hour than usual (coupled with the fact that there's only one day left until the big day)...

Spoiler: Guess I'll post this and be done with it.

When the next Smash game is revealed years from now, will anybody here plan on coming back to a thread like this to start the hype cycle with veteran and rookie users all over again? I reckon I might, this is the only social media platform I feel I can post on and not be judged too harshly.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

So, not to be a bit pedantic here, but I think the keyword in that tweet is "might"/"may". As in, it's not entirely guaranteed either way. It could be a grand-slam surprise for Japan, it could be a Little Mac-level obscure pick for Japan. Either way, that choice of wording, to me, plays up the vagueness that Sakurai seems to be known for.

Well what do you want him to say? “Yeah you’re not gonna like this one lmao” doesn’t sound like amazing marketing.

 

[Kokiden]

With what everyone is saying this means, all fingers point to a non-1st party, non-Japanese, character, and the only ones come to mind are Chief, Jonesy, or Crash. Western characters just don’t really excite me.

Dw I'm in the same boat as you.

Been wracking my brain the last few minutes trying to think of a western character I'd be hyped for, and only 1 comes to mind: Jin Sakai from Ghost of Tsushima. However I don't think he'd be likely.

I feel like a lot of people are going to be disappointed, mostly because their most wanted won't get in, but also the character in question could just be another "meh" character.

FP2 (at least to me) seemed to consist of more lukewarm reception for its characters compared to the first one, so I'm not really expecting to go out with a bang.

Sephiroth was the only notable one for me (and a lot of others too going by reactions), and I guess Steve as well, but that's just due to how popular Minecraft is.

The others were just ok.

 

[Shroob]

Dw I'm in the same boat as you.

Been wracking my brain the last few minutes trying to think of a western character I'd be hyped for, and only 1 comes to mind: Jin Sakai from Ghost of Tsushima. However I don't think he'd be likely.

I feel like a lot of people are going to be disappointed, mostly because their most wanted won't get in, but also the character in question could just be another "meh" character.

FP2 (at least to me) seemed to consist of more lukewarm reception for its characters compared to the first one, so I'm not really expecting to go out with a bang.

Sephiroth was the only notable one for me (and a lot of others too going by reactions), and I guess Steve as well, but that's just due to how popular Minecraft is.

The others were just ok.

I mean, on the chance it somehow is Master Chief?

You may not care for 'em, but I'd be hard pressed to say a lot of people will be disappointed tbh.



Assuming it's him, and not one of a various handful of other choices tbh.

 

[GolisoPower]

Well what do you want him to say? “Yeah you’re not gonna like this one lmao” doesn’t sound like amazing marketing.

No, more like "hey this character may surprise you more than others!" Something intentionally vague to get the brains going.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

No, more like "hey this character may surprise you more than others!" Something intentionally vague to get the brains going.

You still said may. Can‘t escape that when trying to be vague or professiona. Can’t be dealing in absolutes.

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It’s Darth Vader!