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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

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Cutie Gwen

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But the topic wasn't about Toad, it was about Waluigi and Toad. I thought both characters were in the discussion? How is it unreasonable to assume your description was talking about Toad when it could have also fit Waluigi?
It's unreasonable when one could, y'know, simply read the posts like everyone else on the thread. I won't entertain you on this anymore
Saaaame, those 4 would go so well together... Even if DMS kinda run the risk of being compared to MK by people who don't know him.

Still, I be pretty happy with his inclusion... If a miracle happen, of course.
Eh, comparisons between the two is like comparing Mario to Banjo. Honestly, I'm more concerned with how Dark Matter would play as I don't remember his Robobot boss fight adding many news moves to flesh out a moveset
 

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It's unreasonable when one could, y'know, simply read the posts like everyone else on the thread. I won't entertain you on this anymore
Ok fair enough, I did read the post and I saw the description. I don't think the name Toad was ever mentioned once in your post, so I don't get why it's unreasonable for me to interpret it to mean Waluigi. Literally all you said was "player 4" it's not a reading problem.
 
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That was DarthEnderX, not Gwen.
Yeah. Waluigi WISHES he was as high as Player 4.

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Sure...it's everyone ELSE that's the problem...

The only way I'd really accept Toad is if we were to get Captain Toad instead. I've never played his game, but I think he'd be extremely unique in comparison to a main series Toad. Heck, maybe look into the possibility of adding Toadette as an echo fighter!
Captain Toad w/ Toadette alts.
 
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Ok fair enough, I did read the post and I saw the description. I don't think the name Toad was ever mentioned once in your post, so I don't get why it's unreasonable for me to interpret it to mean Waluigi. Literally all you said was "player 4" it's not a reading problem.
It literally quoted a post that said "Toad is a legit request."
 

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personally while I’d like Captain Toad I personally want the generic Toad more, mainly since I guess I like him a bit more + have known him for longer and yes there is a main Toad called Toad afaik despite looking exactly like most others, similar to Kamek and other Magikoopas (although I guess Kamek is the only magikoopa to ever appear in some of his games and most of the modern day games he’s in) or Yoshi.

although if Captain Toad is the same Toad then I’d probably like him just as much since the individual is the main reason why I care, however the Super Mario Wiki says he’s not the same Toad and is actually the Red Toad captain in Super Mario Galaxy…whom, again, I like too, but y’know.
 
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It's unreasonable when one could, y'know, simply read the posts like everyone else on the thread. I won't entertain you on this anymore
Eh, comparisons between the two is like comparing Mario to Banjo. Honestly, I'm more concerned with how Dark Matter would play as I don't remember his Robobot boss fight adding many news moves to flesh out a moveset
Can't say much since I'm at work, and I'm not too sure too, but they could pull some moves from other Dark Matter entity if needed, that or pull up some Eddie sauce with DKS, since he is a being of pure darkness.

Think I need to fact check later tho before I can say anything concrete. (that's the right word in this context, I think)
 

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I feel like I'm in a time loop.
Anyway my most wanted Mario character is [REDACTED]
Ah yes, I too want Antasma. Legit though why is his boss theme not in the game? It's one of my favourite Mario tracks. Smash seems to have this issue with boss themes a lot, worst offender being Dark Samus not having her boss theme in the game
Sure...it's everyone ELSE that's the problem...
Tbf I think he accidentally double posted on that
EDIT: By that I mean that saying this site sucks in an editted accidental double post is really common
 
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I have to admit that I personally find any form of Toad to be equally boring. I don't think I'd mind either Toad or Captain Toad if they got in but there's at least two Mario characters I'd prefer, neither of which is fun to discuss.
 

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Ironically, despite being a [REDACTED] supporter, the only Mario RPG I've played was Dream Team which I never finished.
 

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Why are Toads even called Toads? They look nothing like frogs.
Is there some lore I'm missing or a Japanese joke?
 

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Just like you know, Peach is Princess Toadstool from the Mushroom Kingdom.
But she isn't a Toad, where is her mushroom? Same with Mario, he looks nothing like a mushroom or a Toad either.
We are missing vital information.
 
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Her subjects.

Alternatively...Super Crown. Peach is just another toadette.
Toadettes are then forced to participate in a cruel trial to decide on the next princess.
The one Toadette winning is given the super crown for a year and is now in charge.
In fact it has never been the same princess we've seen in Mario games. Always a different Toadette in disguise.
 

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Man we really need some news or rumors to talk about huh
Soon we should get either a new event of some sort or a direct announcement this or next week.
But as far as Smash is concerned, it's not like we really got new things to talk about for almost a year. With the lack of (credible) leakers or serious rumors, and also the lack of new updates for the game itself that includes game modes or QOL changes, I've resigned myself into studying Toad biology.
 

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I hope the direct comes sooner than later.
I just wanna know whether or not I'm gonna have to perform the DK rap.
 

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Toadettes are then forced to participate in a cruel trial to decide on the next princess.
The one Toadette winning is given the super crown for a year and is now in charge.
In fact it has never been the same princess we've seen in Mario games. Always a different Toadette in disguise.
The Mushroom Kingdom's dark secret is no Peach has ever returned from Bowser's Castle alive...
 

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Out of curiosity, what makes you say that?
For me, the fact that we already got a spirit event for Sword and Shield and that we are now closer to getting to the next generation.
If they really wanted a new Pokemon, in my opinion they would have released it way earlier and not make the famous spirit event (just like Byleth).
I just don't see them giving us two unique newcomers for a franchise anymore. This one is more of a gut feeling than anything.
Also the thing about European voice actors who apparently didn't return.
 

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I think Toad and Waluigi are boring characters. All everyone ever comes up with for their movesets are just sports. Same thing people suggested for the Miis.
 

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I think my biggest ? in regards to a Gen 8 Pokemon is that they wouldn't bring any new Pokeball Pokemon with them, which would be hella strange.


I'm sure they could load up the background of a stage with them, but having a new Gen Pokemon in Smash with no new Pokeball Pokemon to accompany them is very odd.
 

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I think my biggest ? in regards to a Gen 8 Pokemon is that they wouldn't bring any new Pokeball Pokemon with them, which would be hella strange.


I'm sure they could load up the background of a stage with them, but having a new Gen Pokemon in Smash with no new Pokeball Pokemon to accompany them is very odd.
It's OK because our SwSh rep is a Galar Pokemon trainer with six different mons, that's why we're going to wait until December 29th to get them after a Gen 8 guessing game.
 

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For me, the fact that we already got a spirit event for Sword and Shield and that we are now closer to getting to the next generation.
Keep in mind that Incineroar was added despite Sword and Shield only releasing one year later. They likely planned the character ahead of time.
Also, I know it's been 2 years since SwSh, but I personally have my doubts about Gen 8 ending so soon.
If they really wanted a new Pokemon, in my opinion they would have released it way earlier and not make the famous spirit event (just like Byleth).
That's the one thing that might admittedly throw a wrench into my prediction, but the spirit event also predates FP2. They may have planned for a Sword and Shield Pokemon as early as back then but knew it'll be a while until it would actually be added, so they held the spirit event to promote the game.
I just don't see them giving us two unique newcomers for a franchise anymore. This one is more of a gut feeling than anything.
That's a possibility but I doubt Sakurai really cares that much about representation. It seems like more of a coincedence to me.
Also the thing about European voice actors who apparently didn't return.
I think that's more likely due to covid. I seriously doubt they were discussing new characters and proposed a certain character and then Sakurai said "He has a different voice in Spanish, we can't include him!"
 
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