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One is a kid who gets powers from acid trips in a relatively normal Tokyo and the other is a god who fights actual demons in a Tokyo that is barely recognizable and unlivable.
Because if you looked at what I said, the game was in development PRIOR to 2017. Sakurai and the development team had time to sample it before the end of 2018. Hell, FE3H WAS intended to be a 2018 release initially, but was delayed to the following year. They had the art assets and all the finalized details they needed for it. With development for SMT5, they wouldn't have had all the details finalized yet by the end of 2018. 2019 maybe, but by then, it was too late.
Debatable imo.
I'm not talking just art design or direction, I'm talking gameplay, mechanics and any other details not already shown off. Game development takes time, especially for a big JRPG title, so there's also the chance that certain gameplay mechanics were changed or gutted during that time frame. There was a lot of radio silence on the game's progress in 2018 and 2019. We didn't even get a proper trailer until 2020, and it's only now releasing in November of this year.
Yeah, but it's also a SMT game, and gonna be real with ya chief, mainline SMT games are all incredibly similar. Like, the only thing that makes this game seem "new" is that characters can now do a "Super attack", which is very akin to a Final Smash, actually.
Even your links say that they refrained from starting on Three Houses once they came up with the idea to remake Gaiden.
I don't entirely agree with what Shroob said, but I get his point, and yeah, a SMT character and his moveset, assuming Sakurai tries to faithfully capture the SMT feeling, would surely be based on
Right, but there's a much bigger similarity than, say, Street Fighter is to Fatal Fury. Namely, the overlap not just in genre and aesthetics but in actual content.
Before Piranha Plant I had a summoner-type idea for Kamek where almost all of his moves would just conjure up enemies from Mario and Yoshi's Island (particularly the latter) and basically it would give him an extremely versatile moveset. Summon a Nep-Enut/Blarggh for forward smash that deals incredibly high damage as it crashes onto the stage with a hard bite. Summon a Fly Guy for up smash that flies upward and damages opponents with its propeller, carrying them like Mega Man's up air or King K. Rool's Propellerpack. Summon an Ukiki for down air that drops a Needlenose or, rarely, a missile that meteor smashes. And so on and so forth.
I understand your point, still- that's an even worse example, with 5/7ths of the fight not even being visible behind the foreground.
I know Sakurai has said this in the past, but the entire argument doesn't make sense to me. A game feels like a certain era based on a lot of things- graphics, processing, above all-memories... but characters play almost no importance (to me).
Well... even if all of this information is technically true, Sakurai has gone on record to say that the distinction between the series is 'muddy.' Which raises the questions of if he considers them different series enough. There is certainly a good chunk of the public- especially the large audience who doesn't play those series, who would see it as a second rep from the same series.
OH MY GOD!
There's no "tons of evidence" for any character.
Gen 2- Togepi. I think this was the more notable Baby Pokemon, and also the more memorable.
Honestly- if Nahobino is the last character, then I will absolutely find the 'diversifying the DLC to appeal to many audiences' to be absolute bull****.
Actually, I think this has been a very fitting option, as a send off to Iwata- Sakurai's mentor, and the reason we have this game get as big as it is.
I think Sakurai already revealed that the next character will be revealed at TGS, which is before SMTV is released. Saying it would be a while before the next reveal could have been him simply saying that they wouldn't reveal him/her during the current Direct at the time.
What did they get from Joker?
Um... we have 15 non-echo third party characters.
It's not my 'worst case scenario,' but it is pretty low on the list.
That's a to-you thing for sure.
We've never once had a character revealed at TGS, we'd sooner get one in a September Direct.
or a standalone direct
If a character comes from, and is has no notability outside an era, then it can date the game a bit, but with how characters tend to instantly gain the audience's affection and the fact that the roster is filled to the brim with timeless characters, I do agree that it would be hard for Super Smash Bros. to look dated beyond graphical improvements. Even then we're getting to a point where it's going to be pretty hard to make the previous game look like crap in comparison. Ultimate managed to do that with for Wii U, but we're a far cry from console jumps meaning the difference between these:
I mean, it has been.
Oh- I'm not saying characters don't matter in the game. I'm saying recency of characters doesn't matter to me for a game feeling new. This game will always remind me of the years through which it got content.
We've also gotten 10/19 DLC characters (counting Smash 4) as RPG.
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I'm just going by this:
www.gfinityesports.com
But if you don't count Smash 4, because Ultimate's not Smash 4, that number becomes 5/11, which sure, it's a lot, it's almost half, but that's still 6 characters that aren't RPG.
I really hate reading this- we don't have a modern-era FPS, but Duck Hunt is 100% FPS.
TECHNICALLY, the Arusa alt for Hero is based on the DQ3 Hero who originated in 1988.
I mean, they are a big genre, but so are many other genres. I don't see how this is relevant. For a full decade, the biggest genre was all FPS. Then for another, Sandbox and Battle Royale's dominated.
You're right!
That links to what looks like an unsourced blog, which has literally nothing credible to back it up.I'm just going by this:
Final Smash Ultimate DLC Characters Announced At E3 And Tokyo Game Show 2021
It looks like the last two Smash characters are coming this year!
November
Wait... you said we never got a character revealed at TGA?
Duck Hunt is a light gun shooter, not a first-person shooter.
I don't disagree at all in FPS, but most FPS aren't games that are character driven, unlike RPGs are. The two that are mainly would be stuff like Halo and DOOM, and even then, DOOM's only like that in modern times.
This point has literally nothing to do with the others. So what, are people only allowed to like characters depending on if they were born in the same year they debuted?
Once Neo The World Ends With You and probably Metroid Dread get spirits and we still don’t have a final character, you will see A LOT more talk about it.
Light-Gun Shooter isn't a genre. Have you played Duck Hunt? You shoot from the First Person POV. It is an FPS.
Ah, thank you!
You have to use a light gun in order to play it and yeah, it is its own genre, different from FPS.
