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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

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volbound1700

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So what's everyone's Mii predictions tomorrow?

Mine are

Chosen Undead (Swordfighter)
Dig Dug (Gunner; Deluxe)
Kuma and Panda Hats
Jin (Brawler)
Lloyd Irving (Swordfighter)
I will say this, the trend for Mii Costumes tends to lean heavily towards costumes from that IP so I am expecting at least 4 Tekken Mii Costumes. Tekken has a lot of IP to have for Mii Costumes. I do think we will get Lloyd back. We also tend to get a costume that is only semi-related to the new character. That one, I am not even going to try to guess because they are usually very out there (Sans, Cuphead, Bomberman, etc.).
 

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Even if they’re not a 3-in-1 or 2-in-1, I imagine a RH character would have to have a rhythm based gimmick

and I can only imagine how hellish it would be online
So what's everyone's Mii predictions tomorrow?

Mine are

Chosen Undead (Swordfighter)
Dig Dug (Gunner; Deluxe)
Kuma and Panda Hats
Jin (Brawler)
Lloyd Irving (Swordfighter)
Mine are:
  • Lloyd (Swordfighter, returning from 4)
  • Nightmare (Swordfighter)
  • Ling Xiaoyu (Brawler)
  • Klonoa (Gunner)
  • Monokuma (Brawler, detailed)
  • Random Indie Mii with a song (bets on either The Knight Swordfighter with a Sealed Vessel Remix, or Ori Brawler with Restoring the Light, Facing the Dark. Or if this is Gunners only, Gunvolt with Eternal Blue)
 
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Probably a fake rumor.
Unless you're talking about the dude who spoiled a lot of details about DMC5 which were literally correct and then also said Dante was going to be in Smash. He probably added the last part just for fun.
many leakers tend to mention Smash at the end of their posts in order to get noticed at all, a very common trend actually since it's the one thing that draws the most attention
 

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If the Lloyd mii costume doesn't arrive, that basically guarantees he's the last character because why else would they make an exception to disuse such a simple mii costume when Namco and Nintendo work so close together?
Or the last character is from a series where thematically, Lloyd would make more sense to show up there than with Kazuya. Off the top of my head, I can name plenty of RPG characters that could be last that would make enough sense to put Lloyd with.
  • Rean Schwarzer
  • Adol Christin
  • Estelle Bright
  • Someone from Phantasy Star, probably Chaz
  • Nahobino
  • Demi Fiend
  • Laharl (Disagea)
 

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My prediction is:
  • Jin Outfit (Brawler)
  • King Hat (no full outfit because King is shirtless)
  • One other Tekken costume.
    • I'll put my nonexistant money on either a Mokujin Outfit (universal), or a Kuma hat.
  • Lloyd Outfit (Swordfighter).
  • Either a Yuri Outfit (Swordfighter), or a costume from a random Bandai-Namco IP.
    • I'm only confident and predicting that the mystery Bandai-Namco costume will not be from Digimon or Taiko no Tatsujin.
    • EDIT: It also won't be Klonoa.
  • Mystery Costume.
    • This could be anything.
 
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Is Solid Snake a joke?
(He has grenades and a rocket launcher thing)
I meant the tone of the series. The main COD series doesn’t have stuff like Metal Gear’s sci-fi elements which makes Snake fit in Smash more.

But if they are somehow able to make it work, I’d be down; Call of Duty 4’s my third favorite game ever, so many good memories on it.

As Papagenos noted in his recent video, all of the DLC fighters that made it into the second fighter pass are characters that didn't get in initially or character concepts from older games fully realized. Min Min and Pyra and Mythra were both considered for Ultimate, but it was too late in the base game to be added at all. It took 5 years for Steve and Minecraft content in Smash to be realized. Sephiroth was added to address the content disparity for Final Fantasy. And lastly, Kazuya was a character concept from Smash 4 where Sakurai wanted to implement a Tekken rep (namely Heihachi) into Smash 4, but was too complex at the time to work correctly. When looking at this, our final potential character could fall in line with this pattern: Ayumi Tachibana for example was considered for Melee, but was cut because her games weren't outside of Japan at the time. There's also the Rhythm Heaven content that was in Smash 4 as well as substantial evidence in the game code that a Rhythm Heaven rep was intended for the game but was cut.
It’s a neat theory but it doesn’t narrow anything down. It’s possible that it’s taken them like 4 years to get Arle, Ezio or something in & we don’t know it yet.
 
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One thing I've just noticed is that this is our second character in this pass that isn't a zoner (and I'd say the first to not play any sort of mid-range game, but he might have the jukes for it and Pyra seems to be pretty unga bunga so that might not be accurate). Thoughts?
I wouldn't exactly call Steve a zoner either, but then I don't know what I'd call him. Guy's just different. I'm not really sure what to expect for the last character's gameplay, but I hope we're done with the giant buttons. I'd be okay if it was another zoner if they were focused on projectiles.
 
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Sephiroth is the only Fighters Pass Vol. 2 character with a projectile as a Neutral Special

Wat?
Sephiroth might be the only one in Pass 2, but literally everyone in Pass 1 had it. Maybe Kazuya too, depending on the laser beam input. So that would be 8 out of 11 DLC picks with a projectile. :roll:

Either way, it's a joke theory tht works by association rather than causation, like Fire Theory. No need to take it seriously.
 

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I wouldn't exactly call Steve a zoner either, but then I don't know what I'd call him. Guy's just different. I'm not really sure what to expect for the last character's gameplay, but I hope we're done with the giant buttons. I'd be okay if it was another zoner if they were focused on projectiles.
I could be wrong, but I think he's a hit and run character like Sonic and Jigglypuff with the twist being that he gives the opponent incentive to approach him and that's how he gets his damage (until he's done powering up, then he switches tactics completely).
 

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When an outfit reveals the Mii’s chest, they make an alternate version that has the chest covered for when a female Mii is used. Examples of costumes with altered versions for female Miis are Toad, Heihachi, and Barrett.
Was there not like a boxing outfit in one of the Mii phone app games with a male and female version?
 

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I'm guessing Lloyd Irving (which seems like a given), two Tekken costumes (my gut instinct says King and Mokujin), Nightmare from Soul Calibur, Solaire from Dark Souls (not sure if the Chosen Undead is heavily associated with one particular outfit, and I know barely anything about Dark Souls but even I know about the "Praise the Sun" memes), and a lesser-known franchise. (maybe Klonoa or KOS-MOS? I could see either one getting a costume)

I wouldn't mind seeing Agumon as a mascot costume, but I'm not sure if it will happen.

If King's shirtlessness is an issue (though I don't see why it would be - costumes like Toad have variations for each gender), they could use a costume like his one from Tekken 2:

 
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Sephiroth might be the only one in Pass 2, but literally everyone in Pass 1 had it. Maybe Kazuya too, depending on the laser beam input. So that would be 8 out of 11 DLC picks with a projectile. :roll:

Either way, it's a joke theory tht works by association rather than causation, like Fire Theory. No need to take it seriously.
Technically, Joker does not have a projectile as his neutral b, because Gun is not considered a projectile for some reason.
 

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Was there not like a boxing outfit in one of the Mii phone app games with a male and female version?
I don’t know much about Miitomo, although IIRC the outfit used for Wii Sports’ Boxing had a male and female version.
The “Macho” outfits in Miitopia (of which there is one for every job) also have a male and female version.

What would they even do for a King Outfit though?

INB4 females cosplay as Armour King instead.
I imagine that they’d keep it simple and just add a tank top or something.
 
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I don’t know much about Miitomo, although IIRC the outfit used for Wii Sports’ Boxing had a male and female version.
The “Macho” outfits in Miitopia (of which there is one for every job) also have a male and female version.

I kinda remember it being really buff, yeah? Hehehehehehe. I knew I was right.

That's because of how COOL I am. SINGLEHANDEDLY one of the COOLEST people around! HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

People WISH they were as cool as ME!
 

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Probably won’t happen but if Sakurai makes a reference to Project X Zone 2 with Kazuya pitted against Ryu, Ken, Chrom and Lucina I will be pogging so hard
 

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I gotta do groceries in the morning but it'll be early just in time for the presentation. I'll clean the house around 11 or noon otherwise.
 

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I'm confident that Nintendo would not want to take the risk of promoting games/characters that have a limited marketing demographic.
I'm not as confident on them wanting to take the risk of adding a character that could be outside of their budget.
 

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I'm confident that Nintendo would not want to take the risk of promoting games/characters that have a limited marketing demographic.
I'm not as confident on them wanting to take the risk of adding a character that could be outside of their budget.
What characters might you be referring to?
 

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What characters might you be referring to?
I think the "limited demographic" character is Ayumi Tachibana, and I kind of agree, I don't think Nintendo's goal with the FDC remakes was exactly to achieve the same sales that they want post-Awakening FE to have.
 

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What characters might you be referring to?
How could I know?
Then again, after doing some research, Nintendo's current spending R%D budget is around 700M US dollars, which is around 76B Japanese Yen. I highly doubt a potential 3rd party smash character of ALL THING would cost that much...
 

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How could I know?
Then again, after doing some research, Nintendo's current spending R%D budget is around 700M US dollars, which is around 76B Japanese Yen. I highly doubt a potential 3rd party smash character of ALL THING would cost that much...
I'm sorry but what is the point of this supposed to be? That Nintendo wouldn't go bankrupt if they licensed out another Smash character? I think that was guaranteed.
 

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I'm sorry but what is the point of this supposed to be? That Nintendo wouldn't go bankrupt if they licensed out another Smash character? I think that was guaranteed.
This was more or less just a little thing to bring up, nothing crazy significant.
No biggie.
Not like Nintendo would make such an obscure business deal, anyway.
 

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also, meme for tomorrow:
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Kazuya’s presentation be like
Kratos? Ayo? XD
 

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I've been taking care of my sister's puppy for the last 2 days while she's out of town, so sadly this'll be the first Sakurai Presents I miss live.


.....probably.



Regardless, all that really matters is that Kazuya is like, 99.9999999% coming out tomorrow.
 

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