Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Cutie Gwen]

I just realized that I want both characters to have crossed over in the past, being owned by Capcom and Sega respectively while having a surprising amount of overlap.

KIRYU VS NICK: BATTLE OF THE DADS

Damn can't believe I ended up getting this part right.


Personally I'm not a Tekken fan but I respect the franchise a lot and Kazuya looks ****ing sick so I'm very much ok with this, my pattern still holds true after all

 

[SNEKeater]

This is making me hope she pulls stuff from Dread when the next Smash game comes out. The animation work is great, and the clunky Smash iteration makes me really sad in comparison.

That would be great but I doubt it. I can see them giving her her Prime 4/Dread redesign, but I wouldn't expect a moveset rework.

Oh, and also: I really appreciate that they're not trying to play it safe with Dread. Sometimes I was worried that a new 2D Metroid game would go with a safer route and try to be Super Metroid 2, going back to the Varia Suit even if that's impossible due to what happens to her suit during Metroid Fusion, and more. They seem to really going all out with new ideas and going deeper into the horror aspect of Fusion, which is a win for me.

 

[Faso115]

Next character is tied to the colour green? I know who he is!

Unfortunately he dont like gren green

 

[Merengue]

Nintendo reminding us the F-Zero series is dead. I'm surprised. Why didn't he throw Ness and Lucas into the volcano? Ness and Lucas' CGI Models are nowhere to be seen despite them and their stages being shown in every smash trailer.

 

[RGFS]

Hey, wait a minute... dumb-pattern time!

Both Min Min and Kazuya are from pretty different fighting games,

Both Sephiroth and Pyra are from pretty different JRPGS,

Steve is from an open world game... isn't that new Pokemon game an open world? This could also bode well for a Breath of the Wild character. also GTA.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

also GTA.

Don't lose hope brother

 

[CureParfait]

So I've heard Martin got his color theory thing right for Kazuya..

What color did he predict for Fp11?

He predicted a shade of green I believe.

 

[Shroob]

One thing I just wanna say.

Don't y'all start going hard on color theory thinking it's infallible. It's a THEORY, after all. And even Martin's constantly tweaking it.

 

[Pillow]

So, looking at Kazuya's trailer some more, I almost wonder if he's going to control somewhat like Min Min, but with punches and kicks. It would bump his moveset up to around 22 moves instead of the usual 16 if I'm counting both correctly. Also, 3 or 4 of the moves shown in the trailer look like they are tied to grab, so he might not be quite as complicated as he seems.

While I hope that’s the case, since I’d personally prefer a more accessible character, I’d also be kinda bothered by the fact that he’s not super complicated when Tekken is a notoriously difficult game

 

[Noipoi]

Dang kids! Back in my day, color theory was about two chairs and what they meant for Skull Kid!

 

[SNEKeater]

Damn can't believe I ended up getting this part right.


Personally I'm not a Tekken fan but I respect the franchise a lot and Kazuya looks ****ing sick so I'm very much ok with this, my pattern still holds true after all

A fighting game character in Smash is always a win in my book.

Obviously I'd have picked Sol first if I could, but Tekken is a dope option as well. Now we only need Mortal Kombat, Guilty Gear, Blazblue and Soul Calibur to complete the FGC representation.

 

[RiderFan]

Also, I wouldn't mind AT ALL if CP11 was the protagonist from Shin Megami Tensei V. He looks so damn cool. Like, look at this beauty:

I completely agree. I've been thinking Demi-fiend was the most likely SMT rep because the remaster came out with SMTV still being far off, but seeing Nahobino in the SMTV trailer today really made me want him in Smash much more than Demi-fiend.

An SMT rep honestly makes a lot of sense for a bunch of reasons: (1) The Nocturne Remaster just came out and SMTV is coming out in November so it would help garner interest in the SMT series in time for its release, (2) Joker had absolutely no SMT content at all and only brings Persona content so SMT isn't represented at all in Smash, and (3) Nintendo is really treating this title as one of their big Switch titles as evident from the E3 promotion and even being announced at the Switch reveal. Nahobino (or Demi-fiend) would be incredibly unique too since they would have their own abilities on top of incorporating demon summoning.

The only problem with Nahobino is that I don't think we've had a brand new character get in Smash before their game comes out in general before. The closest we've gotten is a character from a game that was released in Japan but not yet released in America and even then those were first party. Hopefully, Nahobino can be a special case and still make it in just before SMTV releases because he looks awesome.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Mortal Kombat, Guilty Gear, Blazblue and Soul Calibur

I would not mind if anyone form those games got Mii'd in Round 10 at this point.
FG rep go brr and it's based af

 

[ShrimpScampi]

Finally got a chance to post my thoughts after the reveal today. For me, Kazuya is... okay. I've never played Tekken, so I have zero connection to the character. His playstyle looks like it could be interesting, although Ken and Ryu never clicked with me, so I doubt I'll be using Kazuya much. I'm also bummed that Lloyd/Tales in general will most likely be Mii'd on the 28th. Oh well. Congrats to the people who wanted him, and at least I got a chuckle out of him throwing everyone off the cliff.

The Direct had some other announcements that got me hyped, though. I'm super excited for the Danganronpa Decadence collection -- when they showed all the individual game logos, I misread Danganronpa S as Danganronpa 5 and was extremely confused. The protag design for SMT5 was sick, and actually getting another 2D Metroid game feels surreal. Nintendo's E3 presentation was definitely the highlight of the conference overall.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

That would be great but I doubt it. I can see them giving her her Prime 4/Dread redesign, but I wouldn't expect a moveset rework.

For me that would be the worst of both worlds: I don't like the new armour and I would really like to see a more fluid Samus in Super Smash Bros.

That being said, I do think it would be neat she had all of her suit designs though. Even the kinda gross looking ones.

 

[N3ON]

If you really want an indictment of the current landscape remember that Smash 4 also had specific character colours and I don't recall a single theory being spawned from it during that game's tenure.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

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Dang kids! Back in my day, color theory was about two chairs and what they meant for Skull Kid!

Tbh I still say the chairs were hints at Galeem and Dharkon

 

[RGFS]

One thing I just wanna say.

Don't y'all start going hard on color theory thinking it's infallible. It's a THEORY, after all. And even Martin's constantly tweaking it.

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I'm pretty sure most of us take color theory as seriously as we do the possibility of seeing Goku or Spongebob getting in. It's just fun how it points to things and keeps discussions going.

 

[SNEKeater]

For me that would be the worst of both worlds: I don't like the new armour and I would really like to see a more fluid Samus in Super Smash Bros.

That being said, I do think it would be neat she had all of her suit designs though. Even the kinda gross looking ones.

The new armour was at first quite shocking for me, I didn't know how to feel about it. After seeing it more times it's growing on me. But yeah. the perfect scenario would be having her different suits, which wouldn't be hard.

Like

• Prime suit
• Other M suit
• Dread suit
• Fusion suit

If they decide to go big then we could add some of the special suits from the Prime series, like the Phazon Suit, the Light Suit.... which is one of my fave Samus designs.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

If you really want an indictment of the current landscape remember that Smash 4 also had specific character colours and I don't recall a single theory being spawned from it during that game's tenure.

This is probably because ssb4 had a bunch of leaks and also the ballot* while ssbu has...absolutely nothin', at least for the majority of the run.

If we aren't given something to talk about. We will make something to talk about. lol


*I could just be remembering the highlight reel on this to some extent though.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Sakurai does like Edgy characters though, and it seems This pass is him expressing his love of Edge.

Ah yes, Min Min, the edgiest ARMS character

 

[Shroob]

Ah yes, Min Min, the edgiest ARMS character

To be fair, Steve is VERY edgy.


Look at how perfectly rectangular he is.

 

[Noler_Mass]

If I had to guess Mii costumes my guess would be:

Jin
Kuma
Yoshimitsu
Lloyd
Klonoa

 

[epicmartin7]

One thing I just wanna say.

Don't y'all start going hard on color theory thinking it's infallible. It's a THEORY, after all. And even Martin's constantly tweaking it.

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tbh, it's not even a theory, just statistics which is the lowest of the low lmao

 

[Cutie Gwen]

A fighting game character in Smash is always a win in my book.

Obviously I'd have picked Sol first if I could, but Tekken is a dope option as well. Now we only need Mortal Kombat, Guilty Gear, Blazblue and Soul Calibur to complete the FGC representation.

Speaking of Sol I am going to get jumped by my friends who love Tekken because I said "Damn Kazuya has Sol's new DI super" when he pulled that **** off

 

[rychu_supadude]

Even though I'm already satisfied, literally any platformer character would cap things off perfectly

I fully expect Waluigi, who's... halfway there

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Oh yeah, speaking of Guilty Gear, watching footing of Potemkin and I-No gameplay had me wondering how they would deal with Smash characters that look at basic movement mechanics and go "...yeah we don't do that here".

 

[N3ON]

This is probably because ssb4 had a bunch of leaks and also the ballot* while ssbu has...absolutely nothin', at least for the majority of the run.

If we aren't given something to talk about. We will make something to talk about. lol


*I could just be remembering the highlight reel on this to some extent though.

Idk, at the height of stuff going on we also had chair theory.

I think something's just in the water.

 

[zumaddy]

A theory about a green character, huh? His time is coming...

 

[Noipoi]

A theory about a green character, huh? His time is coming...

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The Good Ending.

 

[Shroob]

I just watched Gamexplain's vid on Dread.

Dread "Finishing" the 2D Metroid storyline is.... interesting. Makes me VERY curious as to what that means, exactly.

 

[Noler_Mass]

Sexy theory is going strong

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Idk, at the height of stuff going on we also had chair theory.

...That is also true.

I just watched Gamexplain's vid on Dread.

Dread "Finishing" the 2D Metroid storyline is.... interesting. Makes me VERY curious as to what that means, exactly.

I hope it doesn't mean:

"This is the first new 2D Metroid game in 19 or so years!"

...

"It's also the last 2D Metroid game. lol"

Sexy theory is going strong

No.

Stop.

Cease.

Desist.

Refrain.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I just realized something, Kazuya's a villain. We got another third party villain and it wasn't even the one people jumped on after Sephiroth. That's hilarious

 

[LunarisDreams]

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Nintendo reminding us the F-Zero series is dead. I'm surprised. Why didn't he throw Ness and Lucas into the volcano? Ness and Lucas' CGI Models are nowhere to be seen despite them and their stages being shown in every smash trailer.

Cause that will be left up to Porky to do

 

[Merengue]

Cause that will be left up to Porky to do

my man!

 

[DarthEnderX]

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"Hey, bro, can you keep a secret?"

"...hail Hydra."

So I've heard Martin got his color theory thing right for Kazuya..

Kazuya isn't pink!!

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Sexy theory is going strong

I cannot imagine simping for a character so much as to want them in Smash, seems pretty ****ing pathetic if you ask me hone-

Oh no I became what I hated the most



ALSO **** ME IF KAZUYA AND SEPHIROTH WERE SWAPPED WE'D GENUINELY HAVE BELIEVED IT WAS VERGIL AS WE NOW HAVE A THIRD PARTY SERIES THAT DIDN'T USE THE MASCOT OR THE PROTAG

 

[LunarisDreams]

What I’ve learned from these two is…

We know absolutely nothing

 

[PeridotGX]

new theory: the less someone seriously believes their theory, the likelier it is. Serious speculation has done nothing for us. You know what has? Meme Theories. Fire Theory (and flame) and Color Theory are jokes, but they work.