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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

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ZelDan

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If we got a first party character announced for Smash at E3 (it seems safe to say that we're going to get some kind of a Smash announcement in this Direct), who would you want to/be excited to see?

I feel like I tend to gravitate towards supporting third party characters (though there are some exceptions - Dixie Kong, Elma, Bandanna Dee, Impa, Porky, or (if we get an echo fighter pass) Octolings; I tend to support a lot of characters), and when it comes to DLC, I tend to worry that first party picks for DLC tend to be used to promote or raise interest in certain games. I want to get an idea of what's popular, and I figure it could help to broaden my horizons and maybe look into some first party games or series that I might have missed.
the one I'd want most:


these would be nice to see as well:



Even this fella has somewhat grown on me:

 
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Gengar84

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Messages
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One day...


Introduction: Exit Gate
A portal from the astral plain opens up and the sword legion flies in from it. It then yanks the astral chain, pulling out Ofc. Howard, who readies to fight while putting away the sword legion.


Stance: Police Training
Does his default battle stance from the game.


Down Taunt: Legionis
Calls Legion and spirals the chain around himself in a stylish pose yelling "LEGION!"


Up Taunt: Respect
Salutes the enemy yelling before resuming battle stance.


16 Taunt 3
holds his Legatus up to his face, activating it briefly and making his eyes and hair go blue, exclaiming "YOU'RE UNDER ARREST"


1st Victory: Awakening
Leaps into frame with the Sword Legion and slashes downward in an X shape


2nd Victory: Legion Capture
Sends out Legion who who is flung around in a circle by their astral chain before settling behind Officer Howard.


3rd Victory: Case Accepted
Turns around and walks to the camera swiping by a "CASE ACCEPTED" hologram.


Victory Fanfare: Savior
Plays the first few notes of "Savior"
Shield: Axe Defense
Holds their legatus up.
N/A
With Legion active, the Sword Legion crosses its arms as the shield becomes a permanent full shield similar to Yoshi's egg and can only be broken and not shield poked.


Parry: Interception
Does a stylish pose that shows off the legatus


Sleeping: Vacation Day
Sits on the floor leaning on his knee while mumbling "5 more minutes..." During this time, a hologram will pop up saying that someone is calling them. If they manage to wake up in time, they'll act shocked, deny the call, and resume fighting.


Backroll: Backflip
Does a backflip backwards


Forward Roll: Cartwheel
Does a side roll forwards


Spot Dodge: Lean back
Does a little lean back

08 Dodge Air: Air Spin
Twists his body to dodge out of the way of attacks:

Get-up attack: AED defibrillator
Unleashes a shockwave from the AED, shocking Ofc. Howard back to life and pushing away any enemy close.

Tech: Legion Assist
Unique to Ofc. Howard, when they have their legion out, they are not only capable of teching in back, forward, and neutral, they can also tech upwards by launching themselves off their Sword legion
Neutral Special: Call Legion
Ofc. Howard holds up his Legatus and calls the Legion forth, modifying his entire moveset temporarily. It'll only last ~10 seconds before disippating and having to recharge for another 30 seconds. However, it can be turned on and off at will with almost zero lag. However, any turn off will burn the entire gauge and always force a recharge. A new spin on the "power boost" modes of Cloud and Joker. Moments of power must be chosen carefully and deliberately instead of just being hit and given the power.

While in this form, tendrils of blue will streak across Ofc. Howard's face, their eyes will glow blue, and so does their hair. On top of that, their X-baton gains a blocky digital appearance. He'll have blue light trails instead of white ones and any hit with the baton will have an "electric" effect which is purely superflous. Using the Raven costumes will instead make the effects red colored.

Also it has a single frame of invulnerability, which when activated, calls the legion out to immediately counter


Side Special: Send Legion
A multi-part special move that begins with Ofc. Howard sending out their legion a set distance along the same vein of Luma. However, instead of mimicking attacks, it will simply do a followup attack depending on which input is done next, similar to Marth's Dancing Blade.

Side Special; Up followup: Upperslash
Pressing Up and B will make the sword legion do an uppercut with his 2 blade arms, launching the enemy into the air.

Side Special; forward followup: Chain Jump
Pressing forward will have the sword legion yank the chain, pulling Howard forward while he does a flying knee. This also serves well as a recovery option and strikes anyone between the legion and Howard.

Side Special; backward followup: Triple Sword
Pressing back has the legion summon 3 swords that travel the length of the chain

Side Special; downward followup: Round Swords
Pressing down will summon a set of flying blades that hover around the legion which then dissipate when the legion does a spinning attack launching enemies up and away.

Regardless of the action, the Legion then returns to Howard.

Down Special: Slash Stance
A risky maneuver that instantly uses all of the legion gauge. Using it enters into a special stance wherein an additional attack button will make a vertical slice downwards. It doesn't do much damage or knockback, however if the opponent is doing any kind of attack while getting hit, they will automatically get shield broken. This attack is canceleable with shield, but it takes a while to deactivate, making it a risky all-or-nothing attack either way. pressing left or right will do a little repositional hop, but it has no invincibility, making it purely for spacing.


Up Special: Chain Recover
Throws legion into the air who flies up and then yanks Ofc. Howard towards themselves. As this move is vital in general smash gameplay, it is usable without any legion meter, however doing so, will cause 15% damage, punishing desperate recoveries and said feature is also accurate to the games.
Jab Combo: Baton Rush
Does a 4 hit combo consisting of a left jab, an inwards baton swing, an outwards baton swing, and then a stab upwards.



With Legion active, an additional jab finisher is added wherein the legion does an uppercut slash that launches the opponent upwards.


Forward Tilt: Assault Attack
Launches themselves in a flying kick at the enemy.

With Legion active, it will do a kick side by side with Ofc. Howard.
N/A

Down Tilt: Disarming Sweep
Does a low sweep which sets the enemy up for a combo.
With legion active, a second input throws out the legion who spins across the floor in the z-axis, elongating the range of the sweep.

Up Tilt: Evasive Anti-air Combination
Does a high kick while balancing themselves with their hand before following up with an aerial dropkick. A bit of a difficult angle, but does a ton of damage and knockback.

With Legion active, the sword legion does a drop kick back-to-back with Ofc. Howard increasing its power.
N/A
Dash Attack: Sliding Rush
Football slides into the enemy, going so fast as to create sparks across the ground.

With Legion active, the legion flies above and flies forward along spinning with its blades outstretched, increasing the vertical hitbox of the move as to not just hit the feet.
Forward Smash: Charge Attack
Throws the X-baton up and catches it backhanded before rushing forward and doing a horizontal slash forwards.
Howard rushes towards the opponent at lightning speed so while the startup is high, the range and speed of the attack is unparalleled.
Due to how fast he rushes forward, he is completely invulnerable mid-slash and has little endlag after so punishes must be made before he catches the X-baton.

With legion active, the first part of the attack only stuns, while a new second part has been to the smash which involves him holding the baton normally and stabbing forward with Legion stabbing simultaneously. This version is much more powerful, combos from the first part, and launches at a lower angle making recoveries hard and kills early.


Down Smash: Gladiator Kick
Does a spinning axe kick that causes a shock wave on the ground, spiking opponenets hanging on ledge.
N/A
With Legion, the legion stabs the ground, causing an explosion and giving the move some AOE damage and hitting behind


Up Smash: Shine Kick
Does a flip kick. If hit with the front side of the attack, it will launch the opponent straight up. If hit at the apex, it will instead launch the enemy behind.

With legion active, the legion does a flip kick along with Ofc. Howard increasing the power of the attack.
N/A
Neutral Aerial: Circular Kick
Does a spinning horizontal kick that hits front and then backwards. Slower than the average nair, but more powerful for it.

With Legion active, the legion stands upside down back to back with Ofc. Howard, completing the circle and making the attack hit both sides at once, twice.
N/A

Forward Aerial: Baton Barrage
Three part forward air which starts with a diagonal right to left down swing, diagonal left to right down swing, finished with a horizontal right to left swing, knocking opponents away.

With Legion active, he fills in the gaps between the attacks with his own attacks, making it truly a 6 hit aerial attack


Back Aerial: Hammer Kick
Ofc. Howard raises his foot over his head in a circular manner and slams his heel over the enemy, spiking them. It's quite a slow move, but that's where the legion comes in

With legion active, the legion does a vertical spin hitting the opponent twice locking them into position for the kick.


Down Aerial: Skull Smasher
Ofc. Howard raises the baton up and then rushes to the ground slamming it to the floor.
N/A
With Legion, the legion mirrors the action increasing its damage.


Up Aerial: Baton uppercut
Ofc. Howard backhands the X-Baton and does a short range upper slash with decent killing power.
N/A
With legion active, he repeats the action from the opposite direction increasing the power even further.
Grab: Judge
Reaches out with his off-baton hand.
N/A
With Legion active, the grab is enhanced into a tether where the Sword Legion rushes out and grabs the enemy, pulling them in, and binding them to the floor with the astral chains.


Pummel: Jury
Hits the opponent with the back of the baton like Link and the Master Sword
N/A
With Legion active, they are full baton swings mixed with the legion doing swings as well.


Up Throw: Executioner
Howard does a diagonal flip kick, knocking the opponent into the air.

With Legion active, the kick launches a set distance into the Legion who then does a bicycle kick, launching the opponent at an aggressive angle downwards horizontally, making it extremely difficult for most characters to recover, while also killing earlier if facing the right direction.


Forward Throw: Convict
Howard slashes away while jumping back.

With legion active, he will followup by throwing the legion forward via the chain which stabs the target.


Back Throw: Pardon
Leaps past and does a circular horizontal kick to the back of the enemy's head.

With legion active, the legion ducks under the kick and does a horizontal slash in the opposite direction.


Down Throw: Retrial
Ofc. Howard slams the opponent with the X-baton downwards, bouncing them up.

If Legion is active, the legion leaps over and slams the opponent again, bouncing them a second time.
When Close: Prime Execution
The Sword Legion lets out a loud roar shockwave. Anyone hit is transported to the Astral Plain wherein Ofc. Howard does a complex combination attack featuring all the Legions that were not included. First Howard rides on the Beast Legion, impaling them on the Gladius X-Baton. Then he flips them up and calls forth the ARMS Legion which juggles the opponent in a flurry of punches. Afterwards, while the opponent is still in the air, Howard summons the Arrow Legion wherein they simultaneously shoot a light arrow at them. Then, the Axe Legion is summoned who slams the opponent back on the floor. Finally, he summons the original Sword legion who wraps the opponent up in the astral chain, finishing with a simultaneous stab, which inexplicably causes a giant explosion knocking them away

When Far: Legionic Fusion
If no one is near, Ofc. Howard instead rips out the legion core of the legatus and slams it into his chest, the core dissolving into his heart. This activates his fusion with the legion and transforms him into a giant beast that rushes forward in a flash of light slamming the first person or people with an uppercut claw slash that knocks them to the center of the stage wherein they are assaulted by a barrage of claw slashes, kicks, and energy blasts. When finished, the fusion claws them downwards, bouncing them off the floor of the stage, and into the sky above.

Bonus Content:
01 Savior
02 Emergency
03 Awakening
04 Central City (Combat Phase)
05 Invaders from Another World
06 Astral Plane (Combat Phase)
07 Maison Forest (Combat Phase)
08 Ark Mall (Combat Phase)
09 Homonculus A
10 Harmony Square Station (Combat Phase)
11 Legion Assault
12 Zone 09 Daytime (Combat Phase)
13 Suspense
14 Holy Order of the Digital Hermit
15 Hermit training
16 Chimera Takedown
17 Homonculus B
18 Homonculus Y
19 Jena Anderson
20 Jena (Rebellion and Salvation)
21 Jena (Catastrophe)
22 Grand Avenue (Combat Phase)
23 Rush!!
24 Zone 09 Night (Combat Phase)
25 Ark Sewer Mangement (Combat Phase)
26 Madness
27 Sector V Night (Combat Phase)
28 Case Trial
29 Dark Hero (Male)
30 Dark Hero (Female)
31 Aegis Research Institute (Combat Phase)
32 The Only One
33 Yoseph Calvert
34 Noah Core
35 Noah Prime
36 The Answer

The Ark and Astral Plane
A shifting stage that starts on the neon blue city rooftops of the Ark which then transitions to the somber red tones of the Astral Plane:

the one I'd want most:


these would be nice to see as well:



Even this fella has somewhat grown on me:

I would be hyped for almost all of these. The original Hyrule Warriors had my favorite Impa design and most of these are at the top of my first party list. I like Bandana Dee enough but for some reason he never really excited me much as a Smash character. I have no problems with him getting in and he could be pretty fun.
 
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SharkLord

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If we got a first party character announced for Smash at E3 (it seems safe to say that we're going to get some kind of a Smash announcement in this Direct), who would you want to/be excited to see?

I feel like I tend to gravitate towards supporting third party characters (though there are some exceptions - Dixie Kong, Elma, Bandanna Dee, Impa, Porky, or (if we get an echo fighter pass) Octolings; I tend to support a lot of characters), and when it comes to DLC, I tend to worry that first party picks for DLC tend to be used to promote or raise interest in certain games. I want to get an idea of what's popular, and I figure it could help to broaden my horizons and maybe look into some first party games or series that I might have missed.
Bandana Dee was my absolute most-wanted back in the day, and is still pretty high up nowadays. Aside from him, I've also grown fond of Isaac - Disadvantaged he may be - And having him in Smash would at least bring an entry to the series a bit closer.
 

Dancerdude64

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It would be cool if they added more sonic characters such as Doctor Eggman, Silver, and my boy Vector the Crocodile.
 
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2006ToyotaTacoma

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Messages
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Location
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If we got a first party character announced for Smash at E3 (it seems safe to say that we're going to get some kind of a Smash announcement in this Direct), who would you want to/be excited to see?

I feel like I tend to gravitate towards supporting third party characters (though there are some exceptions - Dixie Kong, Elma, Bandanna Dee, Impa, Porky, or (if we get an echo fighter pass) Octolings; I tend to support a lot of characters), and when it comes to DLC, I tend to worry that first party picks for DLC tend to be used to promote or raise interest in certain games. I want to get an idea of what's popular, and I figure it could help to broaden my horizons and maybe look into some first party games or series that I might have missed.
I'd say top of the list are Hades, Officer Howard and Grovyle.

I'd also love Porky, Midna and Bandana Waddle Dee.
 

Gengar84

Smash Hero
Joined
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Messages
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One day...


Introduction: Exit Gate
A portal from the astral plain opens up and the sword legion flies in from it. It then yanks the astral chain, pulling out Ofc. Howard, who readies to fight while putting away the sword legion.


Stance: Police Training
Does his default battle stance from the game.


Down Taunt: Legionis
Calls Legion and spirals the chain around himself in a stylish pose yelling "LEGION!"


Up Taunt: Respect
Salutes the enemy yelling before resuming battle stance.


16 Taunt 3
holds his Legatus up to his face, activating it briefly and making his eyes and hair go blue, exclaiming "YOU'RE UNDER ARREST"


1st Victory: Awakening
Leaps into frame with the Sword Legion and slashes downward in an X shape


2nd Victory: Legion Capture
Sends out Legion who who is flung around in a circle by their astral chain before settling behind Officer Howard.


3rd Victory: Case Accepted
Turns around and walks to the camera swiping by a "CASE ACCEPTED" hologram.


Victory Fanfare: Savior
Plays the first few notes of "Savior"
Shield: Axe Defense
Holds their legatus up.
N/A
With Legion active, the Sword Legion crosses its arms as the shield becomes a permanent full shield similar to Yoshi's egg and can only be broken and not shield poked.


Parry: Interception
Does a stylish pose that shows off the legatus


Sleeping: Vacation Day
Sits on the floor leaning on his knee while mumbling "5 more minutes..." During this time, a hologram will pop up saying that someone is calling them. If they manage to wake up in time, they'll act shocked, deny the call, and resume fighting.


Backroll: Backflip
Does a backflip backwards


Forward Roll: Cartwheel
Does a side roll forwards


Spot Dodge: Lean back
Does a little lean back

08 Dodge Air: Air Spin
Twists his body to dodge out of the way of attacks:

Get-up attack: AED defibrillator
Unleashes a shockwave from the AED, shocking Ofc. Howard back to life and pushing away any enemy close.

Tech: Legion Assist
Unique to Ofc. Howard, when they have their legion out, they are not only capable of teching in back, forward, and neutral, they can also tech upwards by launching themselves off their Sword legion
Neutral Special: Call Legion
Ofc. Howard holds up his Legatus and calls the Legion forth, modifying his entire moveset temporarily. It'll only last ~10 seconds before disippating and having to recharge for another 30 seconds. However, it can be turned on and off at will with almost zero lag. However, any turn off will burn the entire gauge and always force a recharge. A new spin on the "power boost" modes of Cloud and Joker. Moments of power must be chosen carefully and deliberately instead of just being hit and given the power.

While in this form, tendrils of blue will streak across Ofc. Howard's face, their eyes will glow blue, and so does their hair. On top of that, their X-baton gains a blocky digital appearance. He'll have blue light trails instead of white ones and any hit with the baton will have an "electric" effect which is purely superflous. Using the Raven costumes will instead make the effects red colored.

Also it has a single frame of invulnerability, which when activated, calls the legion out to immediately counter


Side Special: Send Legion
A multi-part special move that begins with Ofc. Howard sending out their legion a set distance along the same vein of Luma. However, instead of mimicking attacks, it will simply do a followup attack depending on which input is done next, similar to Marth's Dancing Blade.

Side Special; Up followup: Upperslash
Pressing Up and B will make the sword legion do an uppercut with his 2 blade arms, launching the enemy into the air.

Side Special; forward followup: Chain Jump
Pressing forward will have the sword legion yank the chain, pulling Howard forward while he does a flying knee. This also serves well as a recovery option and strikes anyone between the legion and Howard.

Side Special; backward followup: Triple Sword
Pressing back has the legion summon 3 swords that travel the length of the chain

Side Special; downward followup: Round Swords
Pressing down will summon a set of flying blades that hover around the legion which then dissipate when the legion does a spinning attack launching enemies up and away.

Regardless of the action, the Legion then returns to Howard.

Down Special: Slash Stance
A risky maneuver that instantly uses all of the legion gauge. Using it enters into a special stance wherein an additional attack button will make a vertical slice downwards. It doesn't do much damage or knockback, however if the opponent is doing any kind of attack while getting hit, they will automatically get shield broken. This attack is canceleable with shield, but it takes a while to deactivate, making it a risky all-or-nothing attack either way. pressing left or right will do a little repositional hop, but it has no invincibility, making it purely for spacing.


Up Special: Chain Recover
Throws legion into the air who flies up and then yanks Ofc. Howard towards themselves. As this move is vital in general smash gameplay, it is usable without any legion meter, however doing so, will cause 15% damage, punishing desperate recoveries and said feature is also accurate to the games.
Jab Combo: Baton Rush
Does a 4 hit combo consisting of a left jab, an inwards baton swing, an outwards baton swing, and then a stab upwards.



With Legion active, an additional jab finisher is added wherein the legion does an uppercut slash that launches the opponent upwards.


Forward Tilt: Assault Attack
Launches themselves in a flying kick at the enemy.

With Legion active, it will do a kick side by side with Ofc. Howard.
N/A

Down Tilt: Disarming Sweep
Does a low sweep which sets the enemy up for a combo.
With legion active, a second input throws out the legion who spins across the floor in the z-axis, elongating the range of the sweep.

Up Tilt: Evasive Anti-air Combination
Does a high kick while balancing themselves with their hand before following up with an aerial dropkick. A bit of a difficult angle, but does a ton of damage and knockback.

With Legion active, the sword legion does a drop kick back-to-back with Ofc. Howard increasing its power.
N/A
Dash Attack: Sliding Rush
Football slides into the enemy, going so fast as to create sparks across the ground.

With Legion active, the legion flies above and flies forward along spinning with its blades outstretched, increasing the vertical hitbox of the move as to not just hit the feet.
Forward Smash: Charge Attack
Throws the X-baton up and catches it backhanded before rushing forward and doing a horizontal slash forwards.
Howard rushes towards the opponent at lightning speed so while the startup is high, the range and speed of the attack is unparalleled.
Due to how fast he rushes forward, he is completely invulnerable mid-slash and has little endlag after so punishes must be made before he catches the X-baton.

With legion active, the first part of the attack only stuns, while a new second part has been to the smash which involves him holding the baton normally and stabbing forward with Legion stabbing simultaneously. This version is much more powerful, combos from the first part, and launches at a lower angle making recoveries hard and kills early.


Down Smash: Gladiator Kick
Does a spinning axe kick that causes a shock wave on the ground, spiking opponenets hanging on ledge.
N/A
With Legion, the legion stabs the ground, causing an explosion and giving the move some AOE damage and hitting behind


Up Smash: Shine Kick
Does a flip kick. If hit with the front side of the attack, it will launch the opponent straight up. If hit at the apex, it will instead launch the enemy behind.

With legion active, the legion does a flip kick along with Ofc. Howard increasing the power of the attack.
N/A
Neutral Aerial: Circular Kick
Does a spinning horizontal kick that hits front and then backwards. Slower than the average nair, but more powerful for it.

With Legion active, the legion stands upside down back to back with Ofc. Howard, completing the circle and making the attack hit both sides at once, twice.
N/A

Forward Aerial: Baton Barrage
Three part forward air which starts with a diagonal right to left down swing, diagonal left to right down swing, finished with a horizontal right to left swing, knocking opponents away.

With Legion active, he fills in the gaps between the attacks with his own attacks, making it truly a 6 hit aerial attack


Back Aerial: Hammer Kick
Ofc. Howard raises his foot over his head in a circular manner and slams his heel over the enemy, spiking them. It's quite a slow move, but that's where the legion comes in

With legion active, the legion does a vertical spin hitting the opponent twice locking them into position for the kick.


Down Aerial: Skull Smasher
Ofc. Howard raises the baton up and then rushes to the ground slamming it to the floor.
N/A
With Legion, the legion mirrors the action increasing its damage.


Up Aerial: Baton uppercut
Ofc. Howard backhands the X-Baton and does a short range upper slash with decent killing power.
N/A
With legion active, he repeats the action from the opposite direction increasing the power even further.
Grab: Judge
Reaches out with his off-baton hand.
N/A
With Legion active, the grab is enhanced into a tether where the Sword Legion rushes out and grabs the enemy, pulling them in, and binding them to the floor with the astral chains.


Pummel: Jury
Hits the opponent with the back of the baton like Link and the Master Sword
N/A
With Legion active, they are full baton swings mixed with the legion doing swings as well.


Up Throw: Executioner
Howard does a diagonal flip kick, knocking the opponent into the air.

With Legion active, the kick launches a set distance into the Legion who then does a bicycle kick, launching the opponent at an aggressive angle downwards horizontally, making it extremely difficult for most characters to recover, while also killing earlier if facing the right direction.


Forward Throw: Convict
Howard slashes away while jumping back.

With legion active, he will followup by throwing the legion forward via the chain which stabs the target.


Back Throw: Pardon
Leaps past and does a circular horizontal kick to the back of the enemy's head.

With legion active, the legion ducks under the kick and does a horizontal slash in the opposite direction.


Down Throw: Retrial
Ofc. Howard slams the opponent with the X-baton downwards, bouncing them up.

If Legion is active, the legion leaps over and slams the opponent again, bouncing them a second time.
When Close: Prime Execution
The Sword Legion lets out a loud roar shockwave. Anyone hit is transported to the Astral Plain wherein Ofc. Howard does a complex combination attack featuring all the Legions that were not included. First Howard rides on the Beast Legion, impaling them on the Gladius X-Baton. Then he flips them up and calls forth the ARMS Legion which juggles the opponent in a flurry of punches. Afterwards, while the opponent is still in the air, Howard summons the Arrow Legion wherein they simultaneously shoot a light arrow at them. Then, the Axe Legion is summoned who slams the opponent back on the floor. Finally, he summons the original Sword legion who wraps the opponent up in the astral chain, finishing with a simultaneous stab, which inexplicably causes a giant explosion knocking them away

When Far: Legionic Fusion
If no one is near, Ofc. Howard instead rips out the legion core of the legatus and slams it into his chest, the core dissolving into his heart. This activates his fusion with the legion and transforms him into a giant beast that rushes forward in a flash of light slamming the first person or people with an uppercut claw slash that knocks them to the center of the stage wherein they are assaulted by a barrage of claw slashes, kicks, and energy blasts. When finished, the fusion claws them downwards, bouncing them off the floor of the stage, and into the sky above.

Bonus Content:
01 Savior
02 Emergency
03 Awakening
04 Central City (Combat Phase)
05 Invaders from Another World
06 Astral Plane (Combat Phase)
07 Maison Forest (Combat Phase)
08 Ark Mall (Combat Phase)
09 Homonculus A
10 Harmony Square Station (Combat Phase)
11 Legion Assault
12 Zone 09 Daytime (Combat Phase)
13 Suspense
14 Holy Order of the Digital Hermit
15 Hermit training
16 Chimera Takedown
17 Homonculus B
18 Homonculus Y
19 Jena Anderson
20 Jena (Rebellion and Salvation)
21 Jena (Catastrophe)
22 Grand Avenue (Combat Phase)
23 Rush!!
24 Zone 09 Night (Combat Phase)
25 Ark Sewer Mangement (Combat Phase)
26 Madness
27 Sector V Night (Combat Phase)
28 Case Trial
29 Dark Hero (Male)
30 Dark Hero (Female)
31 Aegis Research Institute (Combat Phase)
32 The Only One
33 Yoseph Calvert
34 Noah Core
35 Noah Prime
36 The Answer

The Ark and Astral Plane
A shifting stage that starts on the neon blue city rooftops of the Ark which then transitions to the somber red tones of the Astral Plane:

That’s an awesome moveset. I would love to have either Akira Howard or Jena Anderson in Smash. Do you mind if I ask how you were able to post those Gifs? I did it years ago and it worked fine but when I try now, it keeps popping up an error message and it never uploads. Maybe I’m making the files too big?
 

SpectreJordan

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If we got a first party character announced for Smash at E3 (it seems safe to say that we're going to get some kind of a Smash announcement in this Direct), who would you want to/be excited to see?

I feel like I tend to gravitate towards supporting third party characters (though there are some exceptions - Dixie Kong, Elma, Bandanna Dee, Impa, Porky, or (if we get an echo fighter pass) Octolings; I tend to support a lot of characters), and when it comes to DLC, I tend to worry that first party picks for DLC tend to be used to promote or raise interest in certain games. I want to get an idea of what's popular, and I figure it could help to broaden my horizons and maybe look into some first party games or series that I might have missed.
Waluigi, Officer Howard, Impa, Mipha & to a lesser extent, Dixie Kong.

K Rool & Ridley were my last big Nintendo wants. So I’m not as excited about other characters. Yeah, yeah I know this is still Nintendo’s game but I think all of their best characters are already in. 🤷
 

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In this scenario I feel like the big three are Dixie Kong, Bandana Dee, and Waluigi. All three are pretty big in the Nintendo space and are highly requested. Personally speaking I would be cool with Dee and Waluigi. I'm not a fan of Dixie Kong but I can understand why she would be a big deal. I would love for it to be Isaac but I'm sure if he would be shown off at E3.

Speaking of which, I have been thinking about my top 5 E3 predictions and while I was going to share them closer to the event, I decided heck with it.

1. Crash - The clear choice for the next western rep. Nintendo has been advertising him a lot and his revival has occurred over the course of two years which leaves plenty of room for Nintendo to notice his success, plus all the new games are on the Switch.

2. Dragonborn - Skyrim was one of the first games shown off for the Switch and Bethesda has been very supportive of the system. Skyrim is one of the biggest games of the last decade. It did quite well in Japan and was the first western game to get a perfect score in Famitsu. Heck it even was an inspiration for Zelda BOTW. To this day it is still a popular game and the Elder Scrolls in general is a notable series.

3. Eggman - I'm fairly confident in Sega getting a character and while I'm placing my bets on Arle overall, Eggman makes more sense for E3. He is the last villain that would round out the villain cast well and Sonic has been overdue for a second character.

4. Capcom character - I'm leaning towards Dante or Phoenix. My logic is that they moved the Capcom character to E3 which explains why a Capcom character didn't show up with the Mii costumes. For Capcom themselves they have such a giant library of characters to choose from that I have a hard time imagining that they didn't go with a rep from them. Phoenix Wright has Nintendo seniority and has had consistent releases and strong demand while Dante has recently made a strong comeback. There is also Chun-Li who is a solid choice for the next Capcom character as she always appears with Ryu in crossover games and is downright an iconic character in her own right.

5. Master Chief - If you had told me a couple months ago that I would be putting him here, I would have given you a weird look. So what changed? Well all the rumors with Nintendo and Microsoft collaborating on something new, despite Microsoft previously saying that they weren't going to port anymore games to the Switch, raises an eyebrow. And with Microsoft being the first western company to get not just one, but two characters is noteworthy. Master Chief would be the perfect choice for E3 and he even made it to the front cover of Famitsu. I'm not exactly betting on this happening, but I could see Nintendo going the extra mile for Master Chief since, well he is the god dam Master Chief and it would have people talking.

And for a special mention, League of Legends. If we want to discuss left field choices for E3, this game does make some sense. There is a League of Legends spinoff coming to the Switch and if Nintendo wanted to cater to different audiences like the one in China, this would do it and in general League of Legends is an iconic game that is significant to its genre. Now who would be the rep? Heck if I know.
Here are mine:
  1. Sora
  2. Crash
  3. Dr. Eggman
  4. Bandana Waddle Dee
  5. Chosen Undead
Special mention: Any Pokémon (not just Gen 8)
 

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If we got a first party character announced for Smash at E3 (it seems safe to say that we're going to get some kind of a Smash announcement in this Direct), who would you want to/be excited to see?

I feel like I tend to gravitate towards supporting third party characters (though there are some exceptions - Dixie Kong, Elma, Bandanna Dee, Impa, Porky, or (if we get an echo fighter pass) Octolings; I tend to support a lot of characters), and when it comes to DLC, I tend to worry that first party picks for DLC tend to be used to promote or raise interest in certain games. I want to get an idea of what's popular, and I figure it could help to broaden my horizons and maybe look into some first party games or series that I might have missed.
Dixie Kong
Isaac
Krystal
Impa
Officer Howard
Octolings
Ashley
 
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Out of curiosity, in the event that the E3 character(s) revealed comes out of nowhere and was hardly guessed or speculated around here at all, what will you guys do then? Me? I’m just gonna grab a snack and watch the madness unfold all across the web.
It kind of depends on who the characters actually are.

I have characters that are expected by the Smash fanbase that'd I'd also like and ones I do not care for/do not care for as much.

I have characters that aren't expected by the Smash community that I'd like to see included and ones I wouldn't care to see included.

So...yeah...
 

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Out of curiosity, in the event that the E3 character(s) revealed comes out of nowhere and was hardly guessed or speculated around here at all, what would you guys do? I’d grab a snack and watch the madness unfold all across the web.
Most of the most popular Smash requests are fine but they don’t really excite me too much. I admit, it would be cool to have Crash or Master Chief for their legacy and importance in gaming but neither are anywhere near my favorite video game characters. My favorites are either much more obscure like the Battletoads, Magus, or Zegram or popular but not expected like Illidan, Sarah Kerrigan, and Sub-Zero.
 

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If we got a first party character announced for Smash at E3 (it seems safe to say that we're going to get some kind of a Smash announcement in this Direct), who would you want to/be excited to see?
Krystal being revealed would be my dream with Isaac and Waluigi being a close second. Bandana Waddle Dee, Ayumi Tachibana, and a Zelda Rep would also make me very pleased.


the one I'd want most:
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Isaac would probably be the most hype first-party reveal for the entire fanbase honestly. Its new series being included to smash, he has been requested for many years, an assist trophy upgrade and many more. The only downside his we would be another JRPG rep (which doesn't bother me).
 

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Out of curiosity, in the event that the E3 character(s) revealed comes out of nowhere and was hardly guessed or speculated around here at all, what would you guys do? I’d grab a snack and watch the madness unfold all across the web.
I'd probably be pretty sad. I'd see what other people are saying, and would probably need to bow out due to the inevitable toxicity...
 

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Out of curiosity, in the event that the E3 character(s) revealed comes out of nowhere and was hardly guessed or speculated around here at all, what would you guys do? I’d grab a snack and watch the madness unfold all across the web.
Say "I told you we needed to find a compromise between 'E3 must make Cloud look like Corrin' and 'Later reveals must make Corrin look like Cloud', but no one believed me."
 

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Sakurai, "It's been a long time since Golden Sun's had a new entry... My suggestion is to download Visualbo---"

Stream cuts, Sakurai is reported missing the following day

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Nintendo releases GBA games for the Nintendo Switch Online with Golden Sun as one of the first games to tell Sakurai about it before his recording to avoid him mentioning or suggesting the Wii U Virtual Console or other methods to play Golden Sun.

More game systems for Nintendo Switch Online announced at E3 plz.
 
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If we got a first party character announced for Smash at E3 (it seems safe to say that we're going to get some kind of a Smash announcement in this Direct), who would you want to/be excited to see?
Mipha (The Legend of Zelda: Breath of The Wild)

Magolor (Kirby's Return to Dreamland)

Gengar (Pokemon)

Medusa (Kid Icarus)

These would all be great choices in my eyes.
 

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Mipha (The Legend of Zelda: Breath of The Wild)

Magolor (Kirby's Return to Dreamland)

Gengar (Pokemon)

Medusa (Kid Icarus)

These would all be great choices in my eyes.
I like the way you think.

Mine would be:

1) Gengar (Pokémon)
2) Impa (Legend of Zelda)
3) Medusa (Kid Icarus)
4) Goomba or Goombela (Mario)
5) Dixie Kong (DKC)
6) Jena Anderson (Astral Chain)
7) Elma (Xenonlade X)
8) Bugzzy (Kirby)
 
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That’s an awesome moveset. I would love to have either Akira Howard or Jena Anderson in Smash. Do you mind if I ask how you were able to post those Gifs? I did it years ago and it worked fine but when I try now, it keeps popping up an error message and it never uploads. Maybe I’m making the files too big?
Smashboards has a puny file-size upload limit.
If you want to put a gif in a post, you'll have to embed it.
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Works for signatures too.
 

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If we got a first party character announced for Smash at E3 (it seems safe to say that we're going to get some kind of a Smash announcement in this Direct), who would you want to/be excited to see?
Captain Toad/Toadette
King Hippo

Works for signatures too.
Please don't though. The peeps with the half dozen animated gifs in their sig don't respect your sanity.
 
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If we got a first party character announced for Smash at E3 (it seems safe to say that we're going to get some kind of a Smash announcement in this Direct), who would you want to/be excited to see?

I feel like I tend to gravitate towards supporting third party characters (though there are some exceptions - Dixie Kong, Elma, Bandanna Dee, Impa, Porky, or (if we get an echo fighter pass) Octolings; I tend to support a lot of characters), and when it comes to DLC, I tend to worry that first party picks for DLC tend to be used to promote or raise interest in certain games. I want to get an idea of what's popular, and I figure it could help to broaden my horizons and maybe look into some first party games or series that I might have missed.
The only first party i'd be all up for is Giovanni (Pokemon)
 

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If we got a first party character announced for Smash at E3 (it seems safe to say that we're going to get some kind of a Smash announcement in this Direct), who would you want to/be excited to see?

I feel like I tend to gravitate towards supporting third party characters (though there are some exceptions - Dixie Kong, Elma, Bandanna Dee, Impa, Porky, or (if we get an echo fighter pass) Octolings; I tend to support a lot of characters), and when it comes to DLC, I tend to worry that first party picks for DLC tend to be used to promote or raise interest in certain games. I want to get an idea of what's popular, and I figure it could help to broaden my horizons and maybe look into some first party games or series that I might have missed.
Porky
Octoling
Bandana Dee
Dixie Kong
Impa (or any LoZ character cause that series is overdue)
Black Shadow
There’s probably a Pokémon or 2 that I wouldn’t mind as well.

So...ya, not actually too different from your own list, lol.
 

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If we got a first party character announced for Smash at E3 (it seems safe to say that we're going to get some kind of a Smash announcement in this Direct), who would you want to/be excited to see
That's a tough question. I feel like I got most of my dream picks both 1st and 3rd party. I still really love 1st party picks even though the popular thing is going for 3rd parties.

If we're talking classic characters still not in then Dixie is probably the biggest omission.

I heavily wanted Ashley before release but sadly it wasn't to be, but another WarioWare rep would be cool because that series is awesome.

Zelda getting another rep would also be cool. I'd personally pick Midna but a more realistic option imo is BoTW2 Zelda or Age of Calamity Impa. Zelda herself is more dependent on her role in the sequel, but I imagine some wouldn't like another Zelda. AoC Impa doesn't really need reasoning. Just look at what she does in AoC lol.
 

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If we got a first party character announced for Smash at E3 (it seems safe to say that we're going to get some kind of a Smash announcement in this Direct), who would you want to/be excited to see?

I feel like I tend to gravitate towards supporting third party characters (though there are some exceptions - Dixie Kong, Elma, Bandanna Dee, Impa, Porky, or (if we get an echo fighter pass) Octolings; I tend to support a lot of characters), and when it comes to DLC, I tend to worry that first party picks for DLC tend to be used to promote or raise interest in certain games. I want to get an idea of what's popular, and I figure it could help to broaden my horizons and maybe look into some first party games or series that I might have missed.
I will be FEASTING on the salt born from Euden's announcement.
 

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If we got a first party character announced for Smash at E3 (it seems safe to say that we're going to get some kind of a Smash announcement in this Direct), who would you want to/be excited to see?

I feel like I tend to gravitate towards supporting third party characters (though there are some exceptions - Dixie Kong, Elma, Bandanna Dee, Impa, Porky, or (if we get an echo fighter pass) Octolings; I tend to support a lot of characters), and when it comes to DLC, I tend to worry that first party picks for DLC tend to be used to promote or raise interest in certain games. I want to get an idea of what's popular, and I figure it could help to broaden my horizons and maybe look into some first party games or series that I might have missed.
I'm not picky, any first party character from a new franchise would make me happy.

Of course there's also several from repped franchises that I'd love to see included such as Waluigi, Dixie Kong, Bandana Dee, Octoling, your usual suspects.
 
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If we got a first party character announced for Smash at E3 (it seems safe to say that we're going to get some kind of a Smash announcement in this Direct), who would you want to/be excited to see?

I feel like I tend to gravitate towards supporting third party characters (though there are some exceptions - Dixie Kong, Elma, Bandanna Dee, Impa, Porky, or (if we get an echo fighter pass) Octolings; I tend to support a lot of characters), and when it comes to DLC, I tend to worry that first party picks for DLC tend to be used to promote or raise interest in certain games. I want to get an idea of what's popular, and I figure it could help to broaden my horizons and maybe look into some first party games or series that I might have missed.
the one I'd want most:


these would be nice to see as well:



Even this fella has somewhat grown on me:

ZelDan ZelDan pretty much covered it for me. My top pick would be Isaac by far. Followed closely by Dixie and Impa.

After that I mostly would like to see any character that reps a an unrepped 1st party series. Andy or Sami, Takamaru, Chibi-Robo, Lip, and so on...

Though other characters would be just fine too, like Octolings, Elma, Krystal, or a Kirby character. But I wouldn't say I would be hype for them exactly.

Other characters that have literally no chance that I would be hyped for include Captain Syrup, Tingle, and Mallo (the adorable guy from Pushmo).
 

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If we got a first party character announced for Smash at E3 (it seems safe to say that we're going to get some kind of a Smash announcement in this Direct), who would you want to/be excited to see?

I feel like I tend to gravitate towards supporting third party characters (though there are some exceptions - Dixie Kong, Elma, Bandanna Dee, Impa, Porky, or (if we get an echo fighter pass) Octolings; I tend to support a lot of characters), and when it comes to DLC, I tend to worry that first party picks for DLC tend to be used to promote or raise interest in certain games. I want to get an idea of what's popular, and I figure it could help to broaden my horizons and maybe look into some first party games or series that I might have missed.
Luke, an ordinary police officer and/or "Phantom Thief Beast" Aaron from Buddy Mission: BOND.



E3 is the perfect place for Nintendo to announce an official English localization of the game coming to the western market alongside these character(s) becoming fighter(s) in Smash. I am also excited to see a potential Smash animated trailer done by Yusuke Murata, the artist behind Eyeshield 21 and the visual for One-Punch Man in Weekly Young Jump.

For anyone curious about the music, there are 48 potential tracks that they can pull from the game. Here, are some samples from the official CD soundtrack.
 
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Out of curiosity, in the event that the E3 character(s) revealed comes out of nowhere and was hardly guessed or speculated around here at all, what would you guys do? I’d grab a snack and watch the madness unfold all across the web.
Well, until proven otherwise my headcanon is that E3 will come with a double reveal of both Pete from Story of Seasons and Isaac from Golden Sun. And no one really talks about Pete at all. Or expects Isaac. And since this is obviously definitely really truly absolutely positively happening I would simply celebrate! After I wake up from passing out due to hype of course.

:4pacman:
 

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Luke, an ordinary police officer and/or "Phantom Thief Beast" Aaron from Buddy Mission: BOND.



E3 is the perfect place for Nintendo to announce an official English localization of the game coming to the western market alongside these character(s) becoming fighter(s) in Smash. I am also excited to see a potential Smash animated trailer done by Yusuke Murata, the artist behind Eyeshield 21 and the visual for One-Punch Man in Weekly Young Jump.

For anyone curious about the music, there are 48 potential tracks that they can pull from the game. Here, are some samples from the official CD soundtrack.
So glad Dimitri Fire Emblem is getting his own spinoff game.
 

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I'm personally hoping for one 1st party and one 3rd party. At this point, I don't really care who. The characters I wanted the most for Ultimate already got in, and I'm pretty content with the roster overall.

For a first party character, I'd like to see a character from an already represented franchise. Lots of them can be rounded out a bit more. To be specific, I'd like to see reps from:
  • :ultdk:
  • :ultkirby:
  • :ultwario:
  • :ultlink:
  • :ultlittlemac:
  • :ultfalcon:
I wouldn't be opposed to a retro rep from a new franchise, but I'm more ambivalent about characters that are simply prominent on the Switch. Many of the first party choices from Ultimate and Sm4sh feel more like advertising current games as opposed to meaningful choices, but I suppose that's simply the nature of DLC at the end of the day...

As for third party characters, I'd love to see a character from a new franchise. A franchise that would really make the community explode as opposed to being expected like Crash (still a good pick, but I'm talking about my ideal scenario here). I'm talking like Kratos and Sora, characters that aren't really on anyone's radar right now. Lara Croft also fits into this category...

I'm gonna end this post before I keep rambling on.
 

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I wouldn't be opposed to a retro rep from a new franchise, but I'm more ambivalent about characters that are simply prominent on the Switch. Many of the first party choices from Ultimate and Sm4sh feel more like advertising current games as opposed to meaningful choices, but I suppose that's simply the nature of DLC at the end of the day...
I mean, current-gen games and meaningful choices aren't mutually exclusive.

A good amount of Ultimate newcomers are either proven themselves to be consistently popular in their fandoms or come from critically acclaimed and high-selling games. The only one I wouldn't say is a meaningful choice is Piranha Plant (who doesn't promote anything) and maybe Incineroar.

I think people get too hung up on the dreaded promotion angle whenever we get a character younger than 15 years.
 

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Out of curiosity, in the event that the E3 character(s) revealed comes out of nowhere and was hardly guessed or speculated around here at all, what would you guys do? I’d grab a snack and watch the madness unfold all across the web.
Not counting leaks, this has been most fighters, especially following Terry. Even commonly predicted characters like Byleth and Steve were widely being counted out at the time of their reveal (that is to say, most people weren’t expecting a 1st party character for FP5, or thought that Banjo excluded another Microsoft rep).

Personally? I enjoy being surprised. Hopefully whatever we get aligns with my personal wants, but if not, whatever. Like you, I’ll probably just enjoy watching the madness.
 
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