Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[SNEKeater]

How would you all feel if Streets of Rage was our Sega spot for this fighters pass?

I'd be cool with Axel. It's not like I'm the biggest Streets of Rage fan in the world but I've played 1, 2 and 4 and I've always enjoyed the games. Also it would be the first beat em up series in Smash, which is always nice.

I prefer a few other Sega characters before Axel, but he would be a good choice.

 

[Perkilator]

How would you all feel if Streets of Rage was our Sega spot for this fighters pass?

I'd be okay with it. That said:

• How would you feel if Sakura Shinguji was our SEGA rep for Vol. 1?
• How old you feel if Eggman was out SEGA rep for Vol. 2?

 

[JustKindaBoredUKno]

I think the final dlc character is an entirely different situation than any other dlc, financially. You've already sold a majority of the copies you're going to, and this is your last big push to earn some extra buyers. You end on a low note, that's no good. If Nintendo is putting an emphasis on what they want with this DLC, it's not unreasonable to assume they'd make sure it plays out this way.

That all goes out the window, of course, if there is any (significant) further content coming.

 

[Gnateb]

I'm bringing up SoR partially because Sakurai recently followed the series composer on Twitter, and also because it's a cool idea I have never given much thought.

 

[cashregister9]

How would you all feel if Streets of Rage was our Sega spot for this fighters pass?

Axel is the only Sega rep I wouldn't be too fond of, even then Streets Of Rage has some fantastic music so it's no deal to me.

Although I would change my tune if his default is his SOR4 design.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Sakurai recently followed the series composer on Twitter

Interesting, we should keep this in mind going forth, could end up meaning something or nothing.

 

[Speed Weed]

How would you all feel if Streets of Rage was our Sega spot for this fighters pass?

Yes please I'll take your entire stock

 

[cashregister9]

I'm bringing up SoR partially because Sakurai recently followed the series composer on Twitter, and also because it's a cool idea I have never given much thought.

The Main Composer is Yuzo Koshiro, who has already done music in smash, I wouldn't look into too much.

Also Sakurai is a Person and not everything he does is a cryptic hint.

 

[Guynamednelson]

but they'd have to be dumber than Patrick Star

They're not being dumb, they're being smart. They know they don't need Crashter Chief in order for 90% of everyone who's going to buy FP2 to have already done so.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Digimon summons?

Beelzemon: Double Impact
Omnimon: Grey Sword and Garuru Cannon
Dark Masters: All do their signature attacks(River of Power, Puppet Pummel, Giga Cannon, and Trump Sword)
Angewomon: Powers up Celestial Arrow while gathering energy from every single ally(so they take a bit of damage, and she adds that to her overall power. Only way to transfer it meaningfully).
WarGreymon(and BlackWarGreymon if another one is on the field. They can both show up very easily at once compared to others): Terra Force/Terra Destroyer
Shoutmon X7 Superior Mode: Final Fusion Blade(basically a one-hit kill. Brings his giant-ass sword down. So your Ultimate Chimera, since this Digimon is well beyond even Yggdrassil in terms of how ridiculously powerful he is. He took down what became an actual God in the Digital World. When you're over 100 Digimon combined, that's a bit understandable. Including multiple Megas too).
Myotismon: Crimson Lightning and Grisly Wing. He stays on the field long and is hard to defeat. ...Sound familiar? I can't think of how to properly incorporate Nightmare Wave. Hypnotism doesn't fit. Nightmare Claw, which temporarily paralyzes an enemy, could work though.

You could include anyone among the Digimelodies in Fusion too, sure.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Sakurai is a Person

wait are you serious

 

[DarthEnderX]

Evil Trapezium memed Timesplitters 4 into existence. The raw emotion he poured into the series brought it back.

I must learn this power, but for who?

I might actually have this power. All the dormant franchises that were my most wanted like Ghosts n Goblins, River City and Contra suddenly got new games after I started requesting them for Smash...

It's at times like this that I use fitting Berserk panels. Rest in peace Miura.

I'm not really sure how fitting it is. Unless what he wanted was heart failure...

How would you all feel if Streets of Rage was our Sega spot for this fighters pass?

Fine.

How would you feel if Sakura Shinguji was our SEGA rep for Vol. 1?

Disappointed.

How old you feel if Eggman was out SEGA rep for Vol. 2?

Disappointed he wasn't a Boss.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

You know I feel like Corrin and Bayonetta closing out Smash 4’s DLC can’t be compared to this situation

for one it was on the Wii U. Nintendo’s second worst selling console even if it did have the amazing Xenoblade X

two it was split development between that and its 3DS version

and three he was ALREADY working on Ultimate as of the ballot. There’s evidence Cloud and Bayonetta were worked on for 4 AND Ult at the same time. Possibly Ryu and Corrin too

 

[DarthEnderX]

Something I'm wondering about: If Smash Bros. could get another summoning item (similar to Pokeballs and Assist Trophies), what would be great candidates for it?

Boss Trophy.

Like how the Master Ball is a Poke Ball that summons Legendaries, the Boss Trophy is an Assist Trophy that summons Bosses.

Honestly dude, only a few stick out in my head:

Sora
Kratos
Master Chief

Literally had the exact same 3 in mind. Only someone MASSIVE can avoid the salt.

 

[cashregister9]

Something I'm wondering about: If Smash Bros. could get another summoning item (similar to Pokeballs and Assist Trophies), what would be great candidates for it?

I'm thinking something like a trading card game item (as in a card that summons something), but I'm not sure what (my first thought is Yu-Gi-Oh!, but that didn't start as a video game, which would make it ineligible for Smash); any help there?

The Breidablik from Fire Emblem Heroes, It could summon a bunch of Fire Emblem characters.


I even submitted it to the Smash Infinite thread.

 

[Guynamednelson]

You know I feel like Corrin and Bayonetta closing out Smash 4’s DLC can’t be compared to this situation

It's not just Corrin and Bayonetta I'm comparing this situation to. I'm also considering how most of Melee's unlockables were the infamous clones, how Brawl's unlockables included who at the time made people throw tantrums for various reasons, how the ESRB leak had people wanting it to be fake by bringing back Doc before Mewtwo and adding Dark Pit and Duck Hunt, how after E3 and 8/8 came Isabelle and 11/1, how FP1 ended with Byleth, and how after Steve and Sephiroth spoiled the Smash fanbase rotten to the core, we got Pyra.

 

[MattX20]

You would think by now that Nintendo would've confirmed the date the E3 Direct takes place. We know it'll be either Monday the 14th or Tuesday the 15th of June, but it's not like Nintendo to not announce their E3 directs with less than a month to go before E3 takes place.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

You would think by now that Nintendo would've confirmed the date the E3 Direct takes place. We know it'll be either Monday the 14th or Tuesday the 15th of June, but it's not like Nintendo to not announce their E3 directs with less than a month to go before E3 takes place.

Didn’t Grubb say roughly next week? Last week he said “the week after next”

so yeah. next week we’ll know their plans

 

[SuperSonicFlyer]

Didn’t Grubb say roughly next week? Last week he said “the week after next”

so yeah. next week we’ll know their plans

I can't wait any longer for those plans to be announced! Well, not any longer than next week, that is.

 

[osby]

Something I'm wondering about: If Smash Bros. could get another summoning item (similar to Pokeballs and Assist Trophies), what would be great candidates for it?

I'm thinking something like a trading card game item (as in a card that summons something), but I'm not sure what (my first thought is Yu-Gi-Oh!, but that didn't start as a video game, which would make it ineligible for Smash); any help there?

Cards you say?

I think it would be neat if Persona cards got in as items, with each arcana summoning a different Persona.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

How would you all feel if Streets of Rage was our Sega spot for this fighters pass?

My vote would be for Axel Stone but I'd honestly be happy with any Streets of Rage character so this would be great!

 

[Commander_Alph]

Cards you say?

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I think it would be neat if Persona cards got in as items, with each arcana summoning a different Persona.

that and something along the lines of a Digivice or a Digiegg from Digimon, or or.. hear me out the titular Yo-kai Watch. Basically anything from a series that has a bunch of collectible character that can fit in one container. I know it is not card specifically but hey, I want to give an idea.

 

[Jocario Zero]

So, I just watched Source Gaming's latest video about cut characters in Smash:

And man do I wish that Krystal finally got her chance with ultimate. She was one of my most wanteds during the brawl days (and of the few I had at that time). She deserved better (and I’m not just talking about Smash). But the assist trophy is at least something.

(btw SF: Assault Krystal > SF: Adventures Krystal, change my mind)

 

[SNEKeater]

Axel is the only Sega rep I wouldn't be too fond of, even then Streets Of Rage has some fantastic music so it's no deal to me.

Although I would change my tune if his default is his SOF4 design.

They would probably go with his classic look, but yeah, if it was up to me I'd prefer SoR4 Axel by far, to be honest.

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

So, I just watched Source Gaming's latest video about cut characters in Smash:

And man do I wish that Krystal finally got her chance with ultimate. She was one of my most wanteds during the brawl days (and of the few I had at that time). She deserved better (and I’m not just talking about Smash). But the assist trophy is at least something.

(btw SF: Assault Krystal > SF: Adventures Krystal, change my mind)

Jigglypuff is the guy that survives at the end of the horror movie and you don't exactly know how or why.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Jigglypuff is the guy that survives at the end of the horror movie and you don't exactly know how or why.

nah i do it's because she's easy to (re)make

 

[Jocario Zero]

nah i do it's because she's easy to (re)make

It probably had something to do with Hungrybox.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Jigglypuff is the guy that survives at the end of the horror movie and you don't exactly know how or why.

With Ness almost getting cut in Melee and Jigglypuff in Brawl, it really shows how the Original 12 didn't really become solidified until Smash 4 in terms of being infallible to cuts.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I heard someone in a pre-Ultimate video say it best

if they cut Captain Falcon, there will be RIOTS

 

[SuperSonicFlyer]

I heard someone in a pre-Ultimate video say it best

if they cut Captain Falcon, there will be RIOTS

I am sure the lack of a new F-Zero game will add to the chance of that happening.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

So, I just watched Source Gaming's latest video about cut characters in Smash:

And man do I wish that Krystal finally got her chance with ultimate. She was one of my most wanteds during the brawl days (and of the few I had at that time). She deserved better (and I’m not just talking about Smash). But the assist trophy is at least something.

(btw SF: Assault Krystal > SF: Adventures Krystal, change my mind)

They did videos for Melee and Smash 64 as well.

 

[Jocario Zero]

I heard someone in a pre-Ultimate video say it best

if they cut Captain Falcon, there will be RIOTS

I can remember that someone here was convinced that Yoshi and Captain Falcon where going to be cut from brawl to smash 4 because of how long it took to confirm them.

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

I can remember that someone here was convinced that Yoshi and Captain Falcon where going to be cut from brawl to smash 4 because of how long it took to confirm them.

People were saying that Samus in her armor would be cut from Brawl because she was being replaced by Zero Suit Samus during the E3 trailer.
2006 was a wild year.

 

[Guynamednelson]

People were saying that Samus in her armor would be cut from Brawl because she was being replaced by Zero Suit Samus during the E3 trailer.
2006 was a wild year.

Did they...not pay attention to how that was her Final Smash that Power Suit Samus was using?

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

Did they...not pay attention to how that was her Final Smash that Power Suit Samus was using?

It was not confirmed it was Samus's final Smash at the time. During the E3 trailer, we did see Mario, Kirby and Link's final Smash. But we didn't know the big laser beam was Samus's FS. We also didn't know there would be assist trophies and many people thought a Nintendog would also become playable because it strangely appeared during the trailer.

To be specific, and I didn't rewatch the trailer so I might be wrong, they displayed Mario, Link and Kirby using their ultimate moves after the ball being showcased, but Samus's huge shot was only shown later after Meta Knight and Pit.

 

[SuperSonicFlyer]

Why would they replace Samus with her without the suit, anyway? People should have known that Samus in her suit is too iconic to leave out of Smash. Maybe it wasn't that obvious at first, but still...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Why would they replace Samus with her without the suit, anyway? People should have known that Samus in her suit is too iconic to leave out of Smash. Maybe it wasn't that obvious at first, but still...

Why would they add a version of Samus without her Power Suit which was meant to be her being completely defenseless in Zero Mission? Zero Suit Samus makes no goddamn sense in any way and is easily one of the strangest additions to the series

 

[SuperSonicFlyer]

Why would they add a version of Samus without her Power Suit which was meant to be her being completely defenseless in Zero Mission? Zero Suit Samus makes no goddamn sense in any way and is easily one of the strangest additions to the series

Hey, none of that. I know Zero Suit Samus isn't so non-iconic, but I was talking Smash only. Not Zero Mission.

 

[Shroob]

Did they...not pay attention to how that was her Final Smash that Power Suit Samus was using?

It was a simpler time


Where Ness was cut because "Up until now"

Fox being shown off was huge news of a veteran returning

And Ridley was in the clouds

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

Honestly dude, only a few stick out in my head:

Sora
Kratos
Master Chief

Y'all are welcome to argue for or against these three concerning @Technomage 's comment, or even add characters of your own who could fit this bill.

Crash Bandicoot is in that "Company" as well.