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I disagree. Inciniroar, Plant, Blyeth are not game enders. I like them, just not the last "one more thing"
Same, I think the double dip fan-rule will die at E3. Master Chief just seems like such an obvious E3 character.
The common link between those 3 is that DLC was always on the Horizon from when they were announced.
Ugh, tell me about it; I really hate dealing with the likes of Nightmare and Palkia (since they mess up the screen and controls). >_<
Okay, let's talk about other Actividion reps. Other candidates I can come up with are:
Huh, I thought Pac-Man was the big reveal for the E3 with Palu and Miis.
Could also be "big" the way
were. Remember, the hype surrounding Banjo wasn't that a new third-party series with a new copyright was added.
My current prediction is a double reveal of CP10: Swordfighter character (Adol Christan, Chosen Undead, Dovahkiin, Euden, Nightmare, Yuri Lowell, etc.) and CP11: Master Chief.
Pac-Man was given a very low key reveal, we knew he was in from random twitter posts before the trailer was put up.
Even if we looks at the past,
I think no. He works as the faceless Marine. All his costumes need to be the different color suits from multiplayer. I want Red vs Blue smash addition.
Not fully and No.
I came up with a different idea for a double dip: Marco Rossi from Metal Slug.
Imma build on those two points.
Yeah smash fans are hyper focused on the idea of chief because it is not impossible now. The idea that this character is so big they have to be the exception is honestly kind of dumb. I personally think that if we get Chief, it would likely be in a bonus slot as a separate challenger pack at the end. I think a double dip just does not make much sense. Why would it happen now?
While I have been bringing up Marco as a possible SNK rep still, I believe "double dipping" refers to the same pass. Hero and Sephiroth isn't double dipping, but Sephiroth and Geno would be.
I'm still kinda hesitant on that. The announced they were making more DLC in Terry's overview, and they probably would've known if they were adding a Metal Slug rep at that point. If they were aware of the big Metal Slug pack coming down the line, why release Metal Slug songs with a second pack? The fact that Terry came with Metal Slug content, minor as it may be, makes me think they just didn't plan for a Metal Slug fighter in the first place.
Except that DQ is one of the biggest RPGs of all time and that Palutena was revealed alongside two other characters, one of which is one of the biggest video game characters of all time.
While true, Pac Man was still revealed at E3 to the media and developers there and then revealed to the public. It happened at E3, in my opinion it counts.
Reminds me of the dream I had like 2 years ago that announced Lego Heihachi for Smash lol
And adding onto that point, most of the time when people say uniqueness, they mean big, crazy gimmicks. Byleth throws a wrench in that, because their moveset doesn't have any abnormal attributes, meters, or control schemes, just different weapons for different directions. It's consistent, at least, but it's not really a moveset-defining gimmick. To a lesser extent, Banjo does the same, as he only has a limited-use mechanic for a single special. The main punching bag for "Too simple" seems to be Crash, but going off of Banjo and Byleth, if he needs a gimmick that badly we can just slap Aku Aku on him and call it a day. There, problem solved.
Yeah, but you wouldn't think that looking at most reactions. Even here there was tons of disappointment until Banjo. I recall people on this site even arguing about DQ's popularity, all cause it isn't very popular in the west. Imagine Master Chief being speculated in Japan where Halo doesn't sell nearly as well as here, I'm not saying neither is big I'm just saying there's a clear bias in speculation.
The Precedents could still exist at the same time though
I personally think the Mii costumes being revealed this pass kind of weaken Konami and Capcom. I know some people are going to say that Capcom could get a character later, but then why did the capcom character not get revealed in place of Pyra and Mythra. The pass was fully decided in November of 2019. If we go with the general assumption that 3 characters are being worked on at any given time, that means that at most, Byleth, Min Min, and Steve were in their varying phases of development. I doubt that Pyra and Mythra were going to be in development since November of 2019. If a Capcom character was coming, why did they not just push them at that point instead? Mii costumes as we know are negotiated much quicker, given the info we got about the process from the Cuphead interviews. Konami is the same due to Bomberman as well. I think us getting Miis is a bad sign for a character from that company. While it is not a complete death knell, I doubt anyone is going to say it is a good sign. Heck, if we go with the negotiation timeline we got from the Cuphead devs, I would say that hurts Ubisoft and Bethesda characters as well.
Honestly, if DQ was discussed in the current environment, I think a lot of people would dismiss it for its lopsided popularity and it would be brushed off like with Touhou, Sakura Wars, and to a lesser extent Famicom Detective Club. Even if it's a juggernaut in its home country, it doesn't have that status overseas, and I think people wouldn't even give it a chance because of that, citing the oft-used Takamaru interview. I wasn't really around for that period of speculation, but if it weren't for the "Brave" codename, I don't think nearly as many people would even think about Dragon Quest, especially for a Western-oriented event like E3.
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Oh, I see. Well, what if the next two characters would be from the same company (and not Nintendo)? Assuming that would count as double dipping, what same-company duos would be good reveals? Here are my ideas:
Reactions in the west. Take a look at Japanese reactions, the market where smash is from. Hero's trailer got a ton of positive buzz there. Tons of the reactions you would see for stuff like Banjo in the west. Was your average Smash fan in the United States excited? No, not really. But you are discounting an entire region's reaction there.
I feel like even then, DQ is still in a different situation compared to Touhou and Sakura Wars. DQ still got plenty of releases and ports in the west, even if it was never as big as it was in Japan. It was not exactly mainstream or popular in the same way, but it is nowhere near as Japan centric as Touhou and Sakura Wars are. I can only play Sakura Wars 5 and the new Sakura Wars in English. Touhou is infamous for putting you through hoops to play some of the official games. At the end of the day, while Hero was still a pick obviously preferred in Japan, I think putting it in the same category as the rest of those is a bit of a jump.
Today is a good day.
But that was my point, regional biases are a thing and it's why I'm saying that discussions of "big" characters here revolve around massive western icons.
There's a bit of a gap between them, yeah, but I'd imagine speculation would stay the same. Big in Japan, not so much elsewhere. It's not popular worldwide like Sonic, Street Fighter, Final Fantasy, and the rest of the previous DLC characters, therefore it's not happening. I've been on the 'Boards for a while, and I can safely say it's pretty hard on Japan-centric characters. Western-centric characters too, for that matter, unless your name is Master Chief.
I apologize for my posts about Crash. Really I'm just jealous that characters I want always get a "nope, can never happen because such and such, be grateful that they're in in some form even though Ridley fans weren't" but reasons why Crash might not make in in seem to be verboten. And no, "he's not iconic" is not a reason why because that's just wrong.
Did i said that or you're making an assumption of what i said on your own words?
The real Master Chief is the friends we made along the way.
My main issue with "proper Virtual Console" is having to pay for the same game 3 times in a row, all because the next one has extra benefits. I don't deny that Nintendo Online really needs to step up their game with more games for the service(and N64/Gameboy/GBA with Online Play would be a dream come true), but the idea of having to pay 3 times for the same game for each new system just for newer benefits, and possibly for the same price, is just.....ugh.
I was just saying proper replacement for the virtual console in terms of being able to play the majority of Nintendo's library outside of NES/SNES, NSO could easily become this if it expanded to more systems.
They'll have to change how it works if they get to Gamecube though. When you download NES/SNES Online, you're downloading all the games it has at once, and that's fine because NES/SNES games have small file sizes. Gamecube games on the other hand can be up to 1.4 GB or even more if it's on multiple discs. Maybe that's why they haven't gotten that far yet, because their system isn't built for games with Gamecube filesizes. Still doesn't excuse N64/GB/GBA.