DJ Armor Statistics!! Everyone needs to hurry up and finish their people D:<

[Deleted member]

So does that mean that we can basically DJ through nado safetly?

 

[Yikarur]

Sockz I'm disappointed, didn't you know that we can double jump nair MK out of tornado? D:
Yesterday I got Double Jump Uair while I was stuck in tornado! I was like o_o

 

[Silent Beast]

How much time is there between the individual hits of nado? A quick check of the MK frame data thread didn't give it.

 

[Delta-cod]

Yeah, I REALLY want this information so I can deal with it better. As of now, Nado ***** me.

 

[Z'zgashi]

the last hit of nado breaks super armor tho

 

[Yikarur]

the last hit doesn't matter, you want to hit him while he is tornadoing =P

 

[Z'zgashi]

That's true

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

Looking at the diddy discussion made me wonder

Diddy

Initial hitboxes were used for all the Aerials
Fair 74%
Bair 88%
Nair 109 ish?
Dair 65%
Uair 83%

Dsmash 61% *first hit* ill get the second one later
Upsmash Last hit 93%
Upsmash other hits 300+
Fsmash first hit 300+
Fsmash 2nd hit 57

Utilt 80
Dtilt 194
ftilt 108

Jab Never
Dash attack ???

Bananas will never break it
Down b Never
neutral b uncharged never
Neutral B fully charged 300+
Up B ???
Side b ???

Get up attacks ???



Edit: The question marks mean i didn't do them cause they were either too hard or too many hitboxes etc. They should be pretty accurate but i tested them on training mode so take all of it with a grain of salt (it shouldn't be more than 2% off if anything but not like it matters)

 

[Sunnysunny]

oh I missed this thread.

I'll test out pika. =w=

 

[Airborne]

I'll actually keep my promise and try to get sh*t done on Falco and Sheik this week.

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

Yeah im actually planning on doing all of the rest so help would be nice guys

 

[Sunnysunny]

OOOK. Got like a crap load of pikas data. Oh yea im awesome.

Percentage are based on when the move hits, not the damage after the move is performed.
Percentage are based on when the hyper armor will break at the earliest percent.
All moves are fresh.

Pikachu:
Jab: Will never break DJ.

(All smashes are uncharged)
F-smash sweet (Near pikas face): 24
F-smash sour (tip of the lightning) 47
U-smash first frame: 52
D-smash (Every hit but the last) >300
D-smash (Last hit) 21

B-down Thunder1 (The thunder above pikachu) 18
B -downThunder2 (The attack that hits if your right next to pikachu) 0. This move is unbelievably strong. ._.
B-T-jolt: Will never break DJ.
Up-b: Quick attack: Will never break DJ
Side-b uncharged: 125
Side-b fully charged: 20

F-tilt mid: 108
F-tilt high: 98
F-tilt low: 121
D-tilt: 141
U-tilt sweet (Infront and above pika): 70
U-tilt week: (Behind pika last frame) 85

N-air: (first frame) 73
U-air: 208
B-air (Every hit besides the last): >300
B-air (Last hit) 116
F-air (Every hit besides the last) >300
F-air (Last hit) 109
D-air: 102

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

Mario


Fair ???
Bair 92
Nair 92
Dair 46 (wow)
Uair 95

Dsmash First Hit 65
Dsmash Second Hit 89
Upsmash 60 (i coulda sworn Upsmash had a sweet spot but it does it at 60 each time)
Fsmash 55

Utilt 80
Dtilt 222 (tooooooo good)
ftilt 131

Jab1 Never
Jab2 Never
Jab3 186
Dash attack ???

Down b Never
Neutral b 300+
Up B Initial hitbox Never
Up B the rest 0 (._.)
Side b Never

Get up attacks ???

 

[Sharky]

Dtilt 222 (tooooooo good)

2 bad you're about 2 get boo'd offstage for it

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

Toonlink

Fair 56
Bair 76
Nair first hit 92
Nair second hit 92
Dair initial 52
Uair initial 62
Zair 300+

Dsmash First hit 95
Dsmash Second hit 65
Upsmash 54
Fsmash first hit Never
Fsmash second hit 52

Utilt 60
Dtilt 120
ftilt 108

Jab1 never
Jab2 never
jab3 148
Dash attack ???

Down b lets just say ur safe until like 170 (it was weeeeiiird idk how his bombs work so i can't do this)
Neutral b uncharged 300+
Neutral b charged 206
Up B last hit 120 (grounded)
Up B other hits never
Side b 173 *strong hitbox*

Get up attacks ???

 

[Airborne]

Fair N/A
Bair 80
Nair 144
Dair 74
Uair 73

Dsmash 89
Upsmash 60
Fsmash 45

Utilt1 300+
Utilt2 81
Dtilt 77
Ftilt 123

Jab1 300+
Jab2 300+
Flurry 300+
Dash Attack 87

DownB LOL does this need to be tested? I did anyways though; it doesn't.
NeutralB NEVA!!!
Upb N/A
SideB 247 .___.

 

[Z'zgashi]

On rob's laser and gyro, is that fine if I just put the number when least possibly charged to most possibly charged?

 

[bigman40]

Most possibly charged.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Well yes, but I was meaning it like this (most-least) For example, if when completely uncharged, gyro hit us out at 115, but when fully charged at 84, do this:

84-115

 

[Silent Beast]

Jab1: never
Jab2: 179
Dash attack: 93

Ftilt: 111
Utilt (all hits connect): 89
Dtilt: 106

Fsmash:
red: 70
blue: 70
yellow: 83
purple: 47
white: 152

Fsmash (falling):
red: 117
blue: 167
yellow: 167
purple: 74
white: 332

Usmash:
red: 37
blue: 37
yellow: 42
purple: 27
white: 72

Dsmash (front and back have same knockback):
red: 61
blue: 65
yellow: 71
purple: 48
white: 128

Nair (all hits connect): 94
Fair:
red: 64
blue: 74
yellow: 81
purple: 67
white: 180

Bair:
red: 78
blue: 78
yellow: 86
purple: 78
white: 190

Uair (all hits connect):
red: 46
blue: 46
yellow: 52
purple: 46
white: 126
Dair:
red: 44
blue: 53
yellow: 65
purple: 53
white: 99

Side-B:
purple: 183

Up-B:
red: 73
blue: 84
yellow: 84
purple: 67
white: 84

Compiled in training mode.

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

Now we're getting somewhere

 

[Z'zgashi]

Im going to get mine done probably next week. I might have a char done on Sunday though. Probably either ness or pika

 

[Sunnysunny]

I've already posted the data for pika dood~! =w=

 

[Z'zgashi]

oh lol, then ness it is!

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

I can probably fly through all my characters tonight

 

[Delta-cod]

Ness is awful anyways, who cares?

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

Lmao i gave ness to 2 people? Yeaaaaaaaah My Spread sheet is messed up but anyway only Silent beast and Air gave any of their data up and it was due this week :/ Yall Need to step it up here. Bigs an exception because he has Lucario lololol

 

[bigman40]

Man I hate that you gave me him. He's making **** hard just to get accurate numbers without taking like 20 mins for one move x.x

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

You need to keep your testing muscles sharp mayne can't have you getting rusty on me lol. And at least after this you'll have a better idea of how he ***** your DJ

Edit: 200th post lets goooooo =D

 

[Poltergust]

Ness is awful anyways, who cares?

Because we slightly lose to him...?

lol

 

[Z'zgashi]

Dat dair hits us out early that's why

 

[Delta-cod]

Because we slightly lose to him...?

lol

I thought you were serious at first.

Then I remembered how bad Ness is.

 

[Sinister Slush]

Ness MU -
Grab Release
Usmash
Sheild Obvious Fair
???
PROFIT!!! /sarcasm

:320:

 

[Delta-cod]

Ness MU -
Grab Release
Usmash
Sheild Pivot Grab/Usmash Obvious Fair
Repeat
???
PROFIT!!! /sarcasm seriousness

:320:

Fixed for a more accurate flowchart.

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

I demand Matchup Flowcharts lmao **** will be lulzy

 

[bigman40]

Hey, keep it related to DJ percents. I'll be updating this over Thanksgiving break, and doing my part during then since it's more free time for me.

Celes, I suggest starting on other projects if there are some people done.

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

No ones done lol, Air has 2 more characters Silent Has PT and NO ONE ELSE gave in their stuff. So it'll be a while. I'm thinking Jab data next but we'd have to show them how to do it first.

 

[Sharky]

maybe this weekend

 

[bigman40]

Jab data isn't hard, just very tedious due to having to check every character, every 10%. If we were to actually tell them how to do SSed Jabs then it would be annoying, but I'll probably just say to leave it out for better purposes.

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

You should make a vid Showing how to test it It'd take like 5 minutes and would save a lot of questions.