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If played well the Samuses can be quite deadly. I've had a fair amount of success with Dark Samus online and have access to Elite Smash with her. Although she's not my number 1 character she is one of my second most played characters in the game.
I personally really enjoy both characters. Ridley is really fun, and Dark Samus really surprised me in a good way (more on that later). Both are the newcomers I am playing the most in Ultimate. I also give the Belmonts quite a bit of play time.
I really love small touches like that. The only "small touch" she is missing is her laugh. It would have been the single most salt-inducing taunt in the whole game.
Stuff like this is particularly amusing with "dark and serious" characters. I know I certainly smiled when I had Ridley with a bunny hood swinging a hammer.
These comments touch on something that I really felt with Dark Samus. Samus has been my number one most played character for every single Smash Bros. installment going back to the first installment for the Nintendo 64. I was not expecting to pick up Dark Samus since there was really no need to. However, the character is just really cool to see in motion. The runs/walks, jumps, and dodges all give this character a "personality" distinct from Samus. I even love how her body jerks around when you take her an abrupt stop after making her run. Dark Samus alongside Richter is my personal favorite echo in the game, and the one of the characters that right now gets the most play time from me in Ultimate (I think I am even playing her more than Samus).
, seeing as she was the only one of my top 5 wanted characters to make the base roster, but the potential of her being low tier is terrifying. Maining a low tier is not a road I'd like to go down again. There's also the fact that some of the other characters I've looked at are interesting as well: - My Smash 4 main. A safe bet, as I'll at least use him as a secondary even if I don't main him again. - If he's less reliant on aura at earlier percents, which was a problem I had with him in 4, I'll consider maining him. - I'll consider him if he's not a mindless ladder machine like in 4, or just overall busted like in Brawl. - Inconsistent with him (had that issue when I was thinking about maining in 4). Not sure if that's a me thing, or a Ridley thing. Also a heavy, oof. - Pocket in 4, haven't put too much time into her, but def worth considering from what I've seen. - Heavyweight// - Don't feel quite right compared to past iterations/ - Extremely inconsistent results/ - Don't like their recovery/ - Playstyle feels too campy// - Combos seem overly complex for my liking - Not a fan of puppet characters
Seems to be a trend of Dark Samus hitting lower, also present on usmash. However, I notice that while usmash can hit people standing next to Dark Samus more easily, it's also less consistent at hitting through Battlefield platforms.
Might just be an animation bug, I'll have to see for myself. But it wouldn't be out of the question. If she can levitate herself, I don't see why she can't levitate certain objects. In her battle in Metroid Prime 3, she can bring down big shards of Phazon crystals as obstacles in the arena, but that might just be because they're Phazon.
I'm not worried about Samus/Dark Samus's tier status. It seems to me that the doom and gloom of many pro players might have been overstated, and people are discovering that the two are a bit more powerful than people anticipated. Doesn't mean much if they're still overall weaker than other characters, but I don't think they're as trash as pros proclaimed. A lot of that was in lamentation that the dash attack was changed to not be a combo starter, but it's still useful, and there's other combos that people are discovering. It'll be a few more months before we know for sure where things stand.I was so set on maining
Doesn't help that I like each of these characters and their playstyles. Not sure what to do in this situation, as it took me well over a year to figure a similar thing out in Smash 4. Curse my indecisiveness!
I suppose I at least cut it down to a top 6, making it a bit easier to manage, so that's something. That, and compared to Smash 4, as well as Blazblue, I know moreso what I'm looking for with a main.
You seem to be in the same boat I'm in, honestly.I was so set on maining
Doesn't help that I like each of these characters and their playstyles. Not sure what to do in this situation, as it took me well over a year to figure a similar thing out in Smash 4. Curse my indecisiveness!
I suppose I at least cut it down to a top 6, making it a bit easier to manage, so that's something. That, and compared to Smash 4, as well as Blazblue, I know moreso what I'm looking for with a main.
I noticed that the other day, too. SSBWiki lists the purple alt color as the one derived from Gandrayda, too, though that might just be due to the Spirit using it. I agree that the pink one makes more sense, so I don't know what's up with that.
Well, I don't think projectiles are my weak point. I did solo main Mewtwo in 4, so I understood how his shadow ball game worked. My issue here is solely based on choosing between favorites that I can enjoy playing at that sort of level. That's why I was iffy on Lucario, Ridley, and MK, Lucario in 4 was too focused on getting damage to be useful, MK was essentially ladder combo and nothing else, and my Ridley is inconsistent and I can't tell exactly why that is. With Dark Samus my concern is specifically with her tier status: If she's low tier, I don't want to go through the pain of maining a low tier, due to the struggle it will take for actual improvement. It seems like her and Samus being low tier is unlikely though, so that's interesting.
I understand low tiers don't get representation at tournies, and playing a character that isn't really represented is appealing. The problem is that playing a low tier immediately puts one at a disadvantage and makes fantastic results unlikely. Not impossible of course, I know players have been able to do it, it's just unlikely for someone who hasn't attended tournies yet.
There's definitely a lot of oddities in how Dark Samus is represented in Ultimate. Like how her Prime 2 design is used for her fighter spirit when plenty of renders for her more fitting Corruption design exist.
Samus use her Samus Return design for her fighter spirit despite still using her Other M design, Wolf fighter spirit also use his Star Fox Assault design instead of any art from Zero.
It's very unlikely Dark Samus will have anything to do with the main plot even if she survived, considering how far removed Phaaze was from where the Metroid games usually take place.
It was only rumoured as there was no official confirmation, from my understanding, from either Nintendo or Namco. Though I've also heard a new team was put together to make the game.
Wasn't this exact discussion in the Ridley thread Just now?
Short of the laugh, it would be difficult to translate Dark Samus's actual sounds to the 8-bit aesthetic without them sounding like miscellaneous 'monster' noises. Alternates could be the sound that plays on entering hypermode, or a snippet of the classic metroid theme, similar to how it plays during the opening of the prime core essence battle. Plain old metroid screechy noises could be a nice little nod, too.
...When have they truly cared about sounds from these characters matching the 8-bit aesthetic? Especially if they have modern origins? Some series do default to the oldest entry if there's a lot of characters but Metroid isn't one of them. And that loud scream when she dies/falls into a pit is almost as unmistakable as her laugh. That is, if they don't just use the Prime versions of the gunship exit, death and item get sounds.
Nice match. You seemed to be evenly skilled players but with Snake easily being a higher tier I'd call it a good victory.
Ultomato
You're probably a better Samus/Dark Samus player than me, and I've never played a Snake that skilled, so take my words with a grain of salt. I'm no expert here.
Thanks. I felt that was the only option, but I thought about approaching before the third match began. Here's the third match. I forgot to save the second replay.
https://youtu.be/AuRzwvnjpow
There are plenty more videos on that channel.
I appreciate the compliment. I cannot say whether or not I'm a better Samus/Dark Samus than you. I'm kind of hard on myself, but thank you.
Yeah. I've instead tried jumping over the grenades if they were thrown my way. It gets them off the stage and doesn't create a wall. Snake would be better off just creating a wall with them.
I could have, but I've been trying to work on an evasive play style, since early on it worked so well against me when I fought other characters. I have my preference set to Battlefield, so those who are familiar with the layout tend to work with platforms. I felt it would be safer for me to stay back and try to get Snake to chase me. By the third match, I was thinking that I should try getting in Snake's range with some aerials.
Thanks. My brother laughed when he saw me be evasive against Snake's Nikita. I thought it looked pretty cool when watching the replay. I think it just takes practice in using the morph ball. It can be handy because even if your opponent realizes you don't have another jump, it helps stall your descent.
