It really depends. I don't run much CDR on him for SR because of Golem; unless there is a jungler on our team that really needs it then I might adjust some, but you already get so much from masteries and his Ult passive. Without anything else, he already hits 29% at Level 16. Something like Deathfire Grasp would max that out, even without it Blue buff puts you over it. At worst, you don't get anymore CDR and sit at 29%. I agree though AP is definitely the **** on him. I would get Magic Pen marks and the rest AP. Dodge sometimes nice on Heimer, just depends really.
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Dirtiest Player in the Game - Wario Social Thread
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Padô
Smash Lord
What's you nickname there Bobby?
Padô
Smash Lord
I'm adding you today as soon as get home.
*_Echo_*
Smash Journeyman
a gay rice man?? lol wtf?
Padô
Smash Lord
Padô
Smash Lord
Damage Points
Smash Ace
Anyone else dig Inception??? Do you guys think the whole thing was a dream or was it real???
TheOgbot
Smash Journeyman
Inception made my head explode many times over.
I was really mad at the ending too. I've never shouted in anger at a movie. Ever.
I was really mad at the ending too. I've never shouted in anger at a movie. Ever.
Damage Points
Smash Ace
The ending was epic. I think it was real because you could hear the top slowing down. Who knows tho. I hope they make a sequel you can do infinite things with this movie concept.
Zigsta
Disney Film Director
Awesome film. Normally I'm most moved by films whose characters I feel emotionally close to, but despite the fact that I didn't feel close to any of the characters of Inception, I was in awe of the world Chris Nolan crafted. Despite the fact that venturing into the dream world is completely outlandish, I believed every last bit of it. And the hallway scene--so well made.
As for the ending, lemme explain my thoughts in spoilers for those of you who haven't seen it yet for some odd reason:
It's definitely the real world, for two reasons:
1) Cobb never saw the faces of his kids when he was in the dream world because he based them on memories, and in this memory, he didn't see the faces of his children. So by the kids actually turning around to face him, it proves that Cobb is in the real world--not the dream world.
2) Cobb's totem--the dreidl--was coming to a stop. He explains earlier in the film that the totem was originally his wife's, and she would spin the totem to prove she was in the real world. In the dream world, the totem never stops spinning; in the real world, though, it stops spinning eventually. Remember the very first scene where Cobb spins the totem on the table in the Japanese mansion? It doesn't stop spinning here because Cobb's in the dream world.
But Chris Nolan DEFINITELY edited that last scene to make it slightly ambiguous just because he loves ending his films that way. Go down the list of all his films. They all have debates you can read online as to the nature of the ending.
That said, Inception's ending clearly has evidence pointing to one side of the argument.
1) Cobb never saw the faces of his kids when he was in the dream world because he based them on memories, and in this memory, he didn't see the faces of his children. So by the kids actually turning around to face him, it proves that Cobb is in the real world--not the dream world.
2) Cobb's totem--the dreidl--was coming to a stop. He explains earlier in the film that the totem was originally his wife's, and she would spin the totem to prove she was in the real world. In the dream world, the totem never stops spinning; in the real world, though, it stops spinning eventually. Remember the very first scene where Cobb spins the totem on the table in the Japanese mansion? It doesn't stop spinning here because Cobb's in the dream world.
But Chris Nolan DEFINITELY edited that last scene to make it slightly ambiguous just because he loves ending his films that way. Go down the list of all his films. They all have debates you can read online as to the nature of the ending.
That said, Inception's ending clearly has evidence pointing to one side of the argument.
Also, I hope they don't make a sequel to Inception. It's a clearly closed world upon completion of the film, unlike a film like The Dark Knight. Chris Nolan prefers his films to be closed worlds.
Damage Points
Smash Ace
Yeah but what if the entire thing was just one long dream that he's trapped in and keeps reliving. That's why the end goes right back to the first scene.
Zigsta
Disney Film Director
That still doesn't explain why the totem spins constantly in the dream world and spins for a limited amount of time in the real world.
Plus, Chris Nolan's just a fan of exploiting narrative form.
Damage Points
Smash Ace
At the end of the movie we don't see his totem stop spinning. The move is totally left up to interpretation.
Zigsta
Disney Film Director
The totem begins to lose velocity if you pay attention. The sound effect also indicates that the totem is beginning to wobble.
Also, Chris Nolan was quoted in an article in Creative Screenwriting magazine that the ending is clear and definitive.
Also, Chris Nolan was quoted in an article in Creative Screenwriting magazine that the ending is clear and definitive.
Damage Points
Smash Ace
I agree that it is starting to wobble u can hear it but it still didn't show it drop so who knows. If he wanted it to be definitive he wouldn't have put the ending like that.
Zigsta
Disney Film Director
Nolan feels it's definitive because he leaves logical explanations for the ending throughout the film, but it leaves the door open for discussions like this.
Padô
Smash Lord
LISTEN TO ZIGSTA GOD ****ING ****, he's the best movie criticist I've ever seen. 
So, Gluttony beat Ally on this huge tournament they had on France... This devil Kid took his Snake and FALCON down. Which makes me happy because people are biased on Allys opinions.
I hope trollish comments like:
"0mG I Don'T C4R3 FaLc0n StiLL RaPeZ \/\/4R10!!11 OH M4N I'M SOOOOOO GOOD AT THIS SHIZ YOU GOTTA PLAY ME."
Doens't appear around.
So, Gluttony beat Ally on this huge tournament they had on France... This devil Kid took his Snake and FALCON down. Which makes me happy because people are biased on Allys opinions.
I hope trollish comments like:
"0mG I Don'T C4R3 FaLc0n StiLL RaPeZ \/\/4R10!!11 OH M4N I'M SOOOOOO GOOD AT THIS SHIZ YOU GOTTA PLAY ME."
Doens't appear around.
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
I'll agree with the second part about the falcon v wario MU it's pretty annoying LoL.LISTEN TO ZIGSTA GOD ****ING ****, he's the best movie criticist I've ever seen.
So, Gluttony beat Ally on this huge tournament they had on France... This devil Kid took his Snake and FALCON down. Which makes me happy because people are biased on Allys opinions.
I hope trollish comments like:
"0mG I Don'T C4R3 FaLc0n StiLL RaPeZ \/\/4R10!!11 OH M4N I'M SOOOOOO GOOD AT THIS SHIZ YOU GOTTA PLAY ME."
Doens't appear around.
Zigsta
Disney Film Director
Haha, I am definitely sigging this.LISTEN TO ZIGSTA GOD ****ING ****, he's the best movie criticist I've ever seen.
Lord Chair
Smash Master
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgUvlZ-5Wbg
A few lower quality videos on that channel. Look at how nice I am, I should be sleeping right now.
See ya'll americans in a few days I'll be telling you all about the tournament
A few lower quality videos on that channel. Look at how nice I am, I should be sleeping right now.
See ya'll americans in a few days
I'll be telling you all about the tournament
Juno McGrath
Smash Hero
Ive always said falcon vs wario was in falcons favor lol.
Zigsta
Disney Film Director
AllyKnight
Banned via Administration
Same opinion about falcon vs wario, go play with a huge *** crowd against you. lost my concentration.
Juno McGrath
Smash Hero
Your still my favorite ally. Keep a level head next time and you got this man.
/Meatride.
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
no johns. Like you haven't been to bigger tournies with people against you. I could of sworn the crowd was chanting USA when you were playing m2k at apex. *shrugs* whatevers clever i guess.
Ok, just because gluttony beat allys falcon doesnt mean there is suddenly definitive proof that this MU is in wario's favor. You still have to remember that ally beat both me and krystedez with his falcon. We really cant say anything about this MU for certain until we have more warios play more falcons.
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
I think the fact that he has Bassem, Judge, and Krystedez EXP with his falcon means he shouldn't of lost. There isn't a falcon ally levle in EU that I'm aware of so knowledge of the MU goes to Ally I'd assume. Ally also plays Wario so he knows the character pretty well. Maybe the rust + the crowd + whatever else could of happened got to him, however, I think if we remove the #2 player in the world and look for falcons beating Warios you'd be hard pressed to see it happen. But *shrugs* I wouldn't hold my breather waiting for another falcon to be as good as ally though.
I also think ally only goes falcon v wario when he's confident he's falcon will beat the wario. He didn't do it against Hunger and I don't think he'd do it against fiction or blue rogue and he didn't do it against Malcolm. If the MU was as good as he claims and it was in falcons favor he shouldn't hesitate to use falcon.
Also I don't think confident is the right word maybe comfortable would be better. We he knows his opponents play style and habits.
Juno McGrath
Smash Hero
LOL You cant just say like "No johns" and expect it to be okay, Especailly you, who wouldnt know what its like having that pressure against you. youve never been in a situation like that, hundreds of people cheering against you.
I mean, you dont even go to tournaments.
This community. rofl.
I mean, you dont even go to tournaments.
This community. rofl.
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
I think dyno wants to take you up on that.My offer to mm any wario with my falcon still standsI just havent gotten the chance to yet.
There's so many ways I can answer this that I don't even know how to. I'll just shake my head and leave it alone. Meat ride more though it's cute.
Juno McGrath
Smash Hero
Im not meatriding im supporting a player that ive met and that i like, Im simply asking that we be more adult and not dismiss every problem with "NO JOHNS BRO"
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
I can dig that.
Dynomite
Smash Champion
Wait. What?!? Legendary making money matches for me??
He is right though. I will MM your falcon bassem. I dont have much-any falcon matchup XP at all but I would like the challenge.
B!squick
Smash Master
I would play this game.
Padô
Smash Lord
YES. I would too. Specially because Wario is almost naked.
@Ally's Issue
I'm definetely AGREEING with this guy right now. Playing OoS is HARD I can't imagine HOW HARD is playing OoC, seriously, besides Ally playing US all day long he might have adapted himself to the crowd on the US which is completely different from playing on Europe, and he attended to it alone, ALONE, not even his GIRLFRIEND was there screaming his name everytime he lands a FTilt or a Granade (no bad points intended) LOL.
I didn't say this MU is in Wario's Favor, I'm just saying you can't come down here and trash talk about the MU because we aren't considering it, as you can see, the matchup is still debatable, we can't say for whom the MU is in favor of for 3 main reasons: the lack of Cpt. Falcon players, lack of Wario's experience (which comes from the lack of Cpt. Falcon players) and opinions. It's just hard to determine the matchup by judging it on Allys view, he's good, everyone knows that. When Ally started to win tournaments with Snake, and taking awesome MK players out of his way people were just wondering "Is this MU in Snakes favor?" but it didn't mean it was, we just need to give TIME to TIME.
@AL
Your "No Johns" comment was just... innapropriate (it's innapropriated evertime unless you wanna meatride), everything you said just after it made a bit sense, we can't tell we are 100% sure about it since we don't know what is going through someones mind, It might or might not be, who knows... lol.
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
Na , I just saw you respond to it last time.
Padô
Smash Lord
IIRC, AL is right.
I BELIEVE DYNO.
I BELIEVE DYNO.