#HBC | Red Ryu
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DGames Summer Mafia Bash - Day 2 Begins. Deadline Day 2 begins - Deadline 8:00 A.M. CST Monday 6/24
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Sup everyone. I'll be catching up a bit slowly, since there are a lot of pages to get through. Are there any particular pages/exchanges that any players feel I should especially look at and focus on, for now?
I'm very excited to be in this game. It's a real chance to prove that I'm not the annoying, awful player that I was years ago.
I'm very excited to be in this game. It's a real chance to prove that I'm not the annoying, awful player that I was years ago.
Also my activity will be a bit lower this afternoon and tomorrow. I'm driving down to my family's beach-town home (left to us by my late grandma), and tomorrow I'll be on a boat most of the day, fishing.
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#HBC | Red Ryu
Do you mind undoing the edit on the above post? I'm a dumb ass and edited in a hyphen, forgetting that I just got put into this game. Mixed up my tabs, since the above post from me was casual and conversational.
Quick he edited! Modkill him!
rereading but first:
JTB, what changed that made you go from scumreading Ranmaru to being a wholehearted supporter of the marshy wagon that Ran tried to spearhead?
JTB, what changed that made you go from scumreading Ranmaru to being a wholehearted supporter of the marshy wagon that Ran tried to spearhead?
fwiw Ive never represented that I had any stronger reasons other than those. Rockin seemed to be able to follow that it was mostly a gut/tone read, whats making that so hard for you?
And what did you mean when you said "yeah thats because thats what it is" or whatever? Are you saying the pythag wagon was in fact a JTB distraction wagon run by narcs or were you insinuating that the JTB wagon is the narc project?
didnt we just talk earlier today about how quick wagons can be just as likely to hit scum because theres less time for scum to spreax FUD and derail them? Not sure what youre implying here, but maybe youre not implying anything and youre just making an,observation
KevinM
Tom
as funny as the rockin wagon meme is, whats it gonna take to get you onto JTB? Ive got a really good feeling we're on to something here
Up to page 11 now, just a couple quick gut reads of the content so far. Still reading though. A lot of this early stuff is "yoooo the playerlist is sick, it's good to see everyone again" content, so it was quick to read.
Marshy's first post being about "tips to town" felt kinda weird, but I haven't seen much else weird since then.
Doop bringing up their shared meta to Ryker immediately felt a bit weird, but I can't put my finger on it. Could have been scum faking this "reunion," having already had it in scum chat. I'm 75/25 on this, with 75 on Doop as town just excitedly sharing a past history.
Poyzin reeks of someone in a large game who's nervous about being the center of attention, responding to literally anything and everything. This also stacks with this game being so full of vets and legends of DGames.
Ryker just looks ****ing stoked to be in the game, and it's hard to get a read on these posts.
I'm not sure if I understand the Ranmaru wagon as of page 11, feels a bit like early game pressure rather than a full wagon. Putting a pin on this one to reread it and try to understand it more. Especially with later page context. If anyone wants to sum it up in like a paragraph, I'd appreciate it.
Those are the only impressions that leap out to me as of page 11, most other people seem to be playing it safe or laying on decent pressure.
Marshy's first post being about "tips to town" felt kinda weird, but I haven't seen much else weird since then.
Doop bringing up their shared meta to Ryker immediately felt a bit weird, but I can't put my finger on it. Could have been scum faking this "reunion," having already had it in scum chat. I'm 75/25 on this, with 75 on Doop as town just excitedly sharing a past history.
Poyzin reeks of someone in a large game who's nervous about being the center of attention, responding to literally anything and everything. This also stacks with this game being so full of vets and legends of DGames.
Ryker just looks ****ing stoked to be in the game, and it's hard to get a read on these posts.
I'm not sure if I understand the Ranmaru wagon as of page 11, feels a bit like early game pressure rather than a full wagon. Putting a pin on this one to reread it and try to understand it more. Especially with later page context. If anyone wants to sum it up in like a paragraph, I'd appreciate it.
Those are the only impressions that leap out to me as of page 11, most other people seem to be playing it safe or laying on decent pressure.
idk why yall hating on the JTB wagon
ryker, gorf - so yall think the JTB push feels unnatural, that it was done to take attn away from some of the other wagons? does that imply that you think either pythag or doop is scum, and the wagon is a distraction to take heat off of em?
the plays for today:
very down with JTB being the play, i really don't like his participation in the Ranmaru wagon, especially given his initial reason for scumreading ranmaru seems really minor / doesn't make much sense to me. He's been asked a ton to clarify his reasoning and his responses imo dont hold up... they at least dont explain why he seemed fervent on ran's push he also went through this brief period where he'd post a ton of questions but they all seem kinda pointless and im not following his thought processes for them
also very down with a pythag lynch. he was an early scum read that truth be told I didn't have the most concrete reasons for. I just got the vibe that his first few posts he was just trying to make contributions for the sake of doing so, not cuz he's tryna find scum. also don't really like his #778, feels kinda opportunistic that once the pythag / doop competing wagons started that pythag did a reread and now finds Doop scummy despite initially reading him as null
what do you think about ^ F FrozenFlame
still down with a rockin lynch, though id say the above two would be way more interesting flips for me
ryker, gorf - so yall think the JTB push feels unnatural, that it was done to take attn away from some of the other wagons? does that imply that you think either pythag or doop is scum, and the wagon is a distraction to take heat off of em?
i felt the same way about marshy and was a bit wary. dude's made a lot of observations that i've agreed with wholeheartedly (mostly re FFs / Kevin's / Rykers towniness) which makes me wanna read read him as town, but despite all that I hadn't seen him putting pressure on slots / pushing people as much as i'd expected (until JTB that is, which im so down for) - also i think it was a good look that he hopped on and off your wagon instantaneously, think it woulda been ridic had he kept riding that ****
the plays for today:
very down with JTB being the play, i really don't like his participation in the Ranmaru wagon, especially given his initial reason for scumreading ranmaru seems really minor / doesn't make much sense to me. He's been asked a ton to clarify his reasoning and his responses imo dont hold up... they at least dont explain why he seemed fervent on ran's push he also went through this brief period where he'd post a ton of questions but they all seem kinda pointless and im not following his thought processes for them
also very down with a pythag lynch. he was an early scum read that truth be told I didn't have the most concrete reasons for. I just got the vibe that his first few posts he was just trying to make contributions for the sake of doing so, not cuz he's tryna find scum. also don't really like his #778, feels kinda opportunistic that once the pythag / doop competing wagons started that pythag did a reread and now finds Doop scummy despite initially reading him as null
what do you think about ^ F FrozenFlame
still down with a rockin lynch, though id say the above two would be way more interesting flips for me
talk to me now
pretty happy with Lore's first post, and i'm cool letting him live
also gonna say im not feelin FF as a play at all, though i have a question for F FrozenFlame (and anyone else who agreed with KevinM in thinking that Tom vs Ran was TvS), how do you feel about that now?
also gonna say im not feelin FF as a play at all, though i have a question for F FrozenFlame (and anyone else who agreed with KevinM in thinking that Tom vs Ran was TvS), how do you feel about that now?
Still catching up, but work has slowed me a bit.
Ran V Tom reads as TvT, but I'll reread it again later. It's just bothering me that people latched onto it as "Tom town confirmed" so heavily.
Ran V Tom reads as TvT, but I'll reread it again later. It's just bothering me that people latched onto it as "Tom town confirmed" so heavily.
agreed, also notable that he's since disappeared since then
I didnt get an opportunistic vibe from #778 but I can see where youre coming from. The post seemed pretty thoughtful to me and not at all like an empty fluff "contribution signalling" type post that you seem to be feeling like it is. But yeah like I don't think youre way off base with that read of it, its just not what Im taking away from it
This is actually a great ****ing question and warrants a reread of that interaction but unfortunately I cant dedicated the necessary time and focus to it at work. Ill try to run thru that tonight and post my updated thoughts later tonight
I'm sorry that you feel that way. This week I was working 3 days as opposed to the usual two, and the work time is in the evening shift. For the rest of the week however, i'm off so I have free time and can be around whenever.
Vote: JTB
Just fyi, I don't really like the JTB wagon. Mostly because I didn't find him scummy, and I'm not buying the arguments that he's scummy.
when he was attacked for checking the tone on Ran he said
Marshi said something that I think is interesting
Rockin's looking better to me, I like his #730, consequently Jexs is looking worse. I'll be reading him again.
#HBC | Mac
Re: the Doop v Pythag stuff, Doop had a fair amount of early discussion on him, prior to the wagon forming.
I read up, and I actually agreed with those that find him scummy, based on his call out of marshy in the beginning, and if memory serves how he also jumped on another vote. I think even in my first post (maybe second) I mentioned that I wanted to read those interactions. Anyhow.
I'm suspicious in general of people that leap on 'scum-tells' D1. I think I'm beginning to agree with Ryker, that is, his play style that you really start learning when the wagons are roaring. It's just hard for me to be cavalier with my vote.
So do I still find doop scummy? slightly?
With regard to your question about Ran v Tom, I know I initially thought it was SvT with Ran being scum, but I'm much more on the Tv? train right now. Ran's play throughout the day shows me that my initial scum reading on Ran was off. At least that's my thought for now.
I'm hoping with Tom's post today I can get more of an opinion on him.
I've got to leave for work rn, I'm hoping to get some questions to ask others.
when he was attacked for checking the tone on Ran he said
sounds like he had an idea and was testing it / checking it / following up?
reading the post, I think you're swinging too hard here, Jexs.
Marshi said something that I think is interesting
I think you're projecting here, and flattening what scum actually do. Like, shouldn't they want to blend in or something?
Rockin's looking better to me, I like his #730, consequently Jexs is looking worse. I'll be reading him again.
#HBC | Mac
I pretty much admitted that that's what I was doing, because I didn't want to appear inactive until the 12th.
Re: the Doop v Pythag stuff, Doop had a fair amount of early discussion on him, prior to the wagon forming.
I read up, and I actually agreed with those that find him scummy, based on his call out of marshy in the beginning, and if memory serves how he also jumped on another vote. I think even in my first post (maybe second) I mentioned that I wanted to read those interactions. Anyhow.
I'm suspicious in general of people that leap on 'scum-tells' D1. I think I'm beginning to agree with Ryker, that is, his play style that you really start learning when the wagons are roaring. It's just hard for me to be cavalier with my vote.
So do I still find doop scummy? slightly?
With regard to your question about Ran v Tom, I know I initially thought it was SvT with Ran being scum, but I'm much more on the Tv? train right now. Ran's play throughout the day shows me that my initial scum reading on Ran was off. At least that's my thought for now.
I'm hoping with Tom's post today I can get more of an opinion on him.
I've got to leave for work rn, I'm hoping to get some questions to ask others.
then why join the wagon ???
argh
pythag do you have any true scum reads? Is it just jexs and slightly doop like your post implies? also im confused about why youd switch off doop to JTB, a wagon you claim to support to one you're meh about
also ooc, which marshy post was this from?
Page 20 now, this sequence really struck me as weird.
I feel like there's a scum between JeXs and Mac, but it's a gut instinct. Do you two care to explain why you hopped on so quick?
Marshy comes down, lays down some reasoning, and JeXs and Mac IMMEDIATELY hop on without hesitation. Like, within 15 minutes of Marshy's post.
I feel like there's a scum between JeXs and Mac, but it's a gut instinct. Do you two care to explain why you hopped on so quick?
you may not have actually voted doop but he was one of the few slots you've expressed dislike for
i explained my JTB vote above, also theres nothing wrong with a good ol fast growing wagon
i explained my JTB vote above, also theres nothing wrong with a good ol fast growing wagon
#HBC | Mac
It looks like my vote was never put on Maven to begin with. uhhhh that's odd.
The Marshy quote was from this one
Caught up, it's a bit dense though so I'll probably have to reread multiple times to really process things.
It's enough for me to Vote: JeXs though. No balls, no glory. People need to put their votes down.
Tom upon further reading feels like a townie who put in some good pressure on someone, backed off, and is sidelaning a bit now. Currently leaning town but would like to see more activity.
Maybe, but the sheer speed of it is fishy as hell to me. I'm leaning towards JeXs as being the worse of the two, but I want to sit on my thoughts for a bit before firmly deciding and posting something long. I have a big side project I'm working on for this game to compile my notes and help clear up my own understanding of what has happened so far.
It's enough for me to Vote: JeXs though. No balls, no glory. People need to put their votes down.
Tom upon further reading feels like a townie who put in some good pressure on someone, backed off, and is sidelaning a bit now. Currently leaning town but would like to see more activity.
Also can someone sum up the Pythag case in like, a paragraph? It feels like it came out of the blue, so maybe I missed something.
oh nvm, i thought rockin vote on JTB was pythag's vote instead
i think it's interesting that ppl apparently have issue with the JTB wagon but the wayyy fishier ranmaru wagon barely got any attn
Why do you think the Ran wagon was fishier?
It's funny. I think the Ran wagon made way more sense when it formed. I didn't agree with it, but it made sense to me.
This one seems real bad
This is a repeated opinion. He talked about the Ran wagon looking sus af when it was happening iirc.
you dont hav anyone as town?
yeah. lots of bad focus in this game. the "jtb wagon too fast" narrative = gamethrowing by any townie who said so
jtb dies today
to any ff voter: whats your opinion of a tom wagon opposite of jtb?
to any ff voter: whats your opinion of a tom wagon opposite of jtb?
Pythag
it was weird how many people started scumreading him all of a sudden, especially given how baseless (atleast to me) the original reason was. and then when ran vs tom happened it seemed like ppl were coming out of nowhere having issues with Ran's slot, creating more seemingly baseless (or at least super stretching) reasons for thinking he's scum: apparently ran "made mistakes" in his interactions with Tom and seemed to be flustered or w/e ppl were sayingand the fact that people were throwing shade without explicitly committing to the wagon was weird to me aswell
I must have missed it, ****. I'm unfortunately speed reading a bit, admittedly. Do you recall the page it was on, or a post number?I'll get to you in a minute, Mac.
Lore
I posted analysis of most of the people on the JTB wagon, including JeXs and I concluded that the behavior presented for that slot didn't merit a vote. Where was the flaw in my thought process?