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Shun Goku Satsu Rake

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see: Necromafia.

Also, i meant that in the nicest way possible, as I am not good at making any sense in mafia either
 

ranmaru

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Necromafia isn't a good source. :p He didn't make a case on Kary there, he just gambited a daycop guilty. (We both talked about it though and had a hard scumread on him and I backed him up on it)
 

#HBC | Ryker

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But part of me still can't get over the fact that you seemed to actually think that not doing your portion of a project for a Japanese class in Japanese was totally acceptable. Like, obviously sensei wasn't supposed to find out about it anyway, and if you initially thought that your teammates were just going to translate it for you and they were cool with that and you were just gonna sort of ride coattail, then I could respect that to a degree. But you seemed like you initially thought it was just cool to write up a Japanese project in English. And like, how? If I were your sensei, and you told me that, I would react just like she did. All like...

Dafuq u thinkin boy?
Bro, you're in a group project and someone capable offers to do more than the normal share of the work. Do you seriously turn it down?
 

Circus

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Bro, you're in a group project and someone capable offers to do more than the normal share of the work. Do you seriously turn it down?
No. Did you read what I said? I specifically said in my post that I understand the idea of Zen agreeing to ride his partners' coattails a little if they (or one of them) were willing to let him.

My point was that, afterward, Zen seemed to suggest that he genuinely thought it was okay for him to do the project completely in English, and confessed that to his teacher, thinking nothing of it. As if it didn't need to be translated, period. By him or anyone else. That's the part that gets me. The idea that Zen was taken aback by the fact that the Japanese teacher would require that the project she assigned be completed in Japanese. That should be common sense.
 

#HBC | Kary

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This is really cool, but it seems to be low frames/second, is that just because .gif or what? Just like that spinning animation in particular I'm like :urg:

ill be sure to ask.. but im pretty Kary-necromafia sure on it.
:glare:
:rolleyes:
so 'pretty sure' then, because being right =/= being sure ;)

Bro, you're in a group project and someone capable offers to do more than the normal share of the work. Do you seriously turn it down?
I feel you should; after all you're meant to be studying and all.

But on the other hand, if it's a group project and the project turns out well, you can't really complain about how the group worked? I mean, maybe you're trying to promote teamwork and co-operation or whatever, but if you end up making a free rider problem (where not everyone has to pull their weight), that's surely down yo how you structured the task?

apologies Zen if I'm totally mis-representing what actually happened.

and that 'mafia traitor' guy does seem a bit... I dunno tactless or whatever.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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A project in which the job you are doing is research? It's not like there isn't a live portion to follow as well. Just because I'm a student in a foreign language class doesn't mean I'm going to offer research in said foreign language when clarity of information is even semi important.

:phone:
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Kary ninja.

Throughout high school and college, I did the majority of the work on the majority of the group projects I was assigned. I wanted to make sure it was done and didn't want to spend MORE time organizing how to get together and how to split a work load. I would generally tell people what I needed and get on their *** if they didn't give it to me. I wouldn't begrudge anyone taking the opportunity to do less work, especially in college, when less work is required of them by the definition of the task. It makes your life easier and it makes the life of the person who wants to get it done easier.

As far as your Benedict Arnold goes, I feel like there's something you're not telling us or don't know yourself. Nobody up and does that unless they were shafted by being saddled with more work than they should be or have some more personal grudge.

:phone:
 

ranmaru

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I was about to say. I was gonna be all like

"Xonar can I watch that show?"

Xonar: NO ITS BAD
Me: ;-;
 

Circus

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A project in which the job you are doing is research? It's not like there isn't a live portion to follow as well. Just because I'm a student in a foreign language class doesn't mean I'm going to offer research in said foreign language when clarity of information is even semi important.

:phone:
Maybe they do things differently in...

...

...

...wherever it is from which you and Zen respectively hail.

But I took five Spanish classes in high school, and I never turned in a single written piece of work in any of those classes that wasn't completely composed in Spanish. Sure, you could get away with speaking casually and asking questions in English in the first couple of classes, but even in the intro stuff, the entire point was to learn the language. So you wrote in it. Even when getting into projects that more specifically related to culture and geography and things of that sort, if there was an oral report, you gave it in Spanish. If you turned in a piece of paper with words on it, those words were en Español. That's just a given to me.

If we're talking about Zen just jotting down notes in English and giving them to somebody strictly so that person can add information to a bigger whole, then that's different. But the way Zen worded it in the story, it sounded like he was writing something that was intended to be turned in for a grade. Like, an essay. Just an essay that was grouped with 3 other kids' essays. It seems from the way the story was told that Zen knew that what he was writing was meant to be read by the teacher. I think it's natural to assume the teacher would expect a thing like that to be in Japanese. It's entirely possible that I've misinterpreted it in all of Zen's colorful storytelling.

Regardless, this is not a very important argument.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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I'm not talking about turning in an assignment in English. I definitely agree with you there that you would be ******** to try and pass something off like that.

I'm talking about sending my research to a group member who is composing it. I specifically got the feeling it was NOT the finished product (as evident from the way he was musing about how his teacher could have possibly known).
 

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I did plenty of research projects in Spanish class. Never were they in a language other than English.


The research projects were a part of the class meant to teach culture, not language.

:phone:
 

Ramen King

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So that was a super entertaining read.

And Mafia Traitor dude is clearly whackness personified.

But part of me still can't get over the fact that you seemed to actually think that not doing your portion of a project for a Japanese class in Japanese was totally acceptable. Like, obviously sensei wasn't supposed to find out about it anyway, and if you initially thought that your teammates were just going to translate it for you and they were cool with that and you were just gonna sort of ride coattail, then I could respect that to a degree. But you seemed like you initially thought it was just cool to write up a Japanese project in English. And like, how? If I were your sensei, and you told me that, I would react just like she did. All like...


Dafuq u thinkin boy?
Because I didn't really get that this part of the assignment was really what mattered. My understanding was that the main event of the project was the presentation.

1. Make an outline
2. Research
3. Turn it into a skit
4. Present

That was my idea of the project, but it turns out that #2 is more like a paper I guess? I genuinely didn't see it as a problem.
 

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Guys...

So what do you do when most of your team are incompetant?
 

Evil Eye

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that feel when you hit a REALLY good stride in a studying/cram sesh, but no matter how well you're doing with the current material (really gordamn well btw :bigbrainmuscles:), you're still gonna get that last minute cram stress/painful exam triage you gotta do, because you're not just studying for one class, but rather have to wrap up the one you're locking down asap and start studying for the other exam, because you have two one right after the other

tangential but related rant: all of my exams (and classes) are like this all year because of budget cuts. my faculty in particular only seems to have, like, a couple of blocks in the entire day available

how the **** does my province's spending keep going up and up and up and taxes go up and up, AND we have the DEMOCRAT party in power, and yet the most basic democrat values get pissed and **** on like this

oh wait, I know, because like 1/3 of employed people in this province work for the government and thus all that goddamn money goes to their bloated salaries and bloated bureaucracies

/double rage all the way across the sky
 

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@group project stuff-
I'll do my part, and anything asked of me, but if a competent person wants to do the work(because they are paranoid that no one else can do stuff right or whatever reason) I won't object about it
 

ranmaru

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I was actually talking about group project team lol.
 

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Guys...

So what do you do when most of your team are incompetant?
Lolol@ryker

Ran, while I'm usually the incompetent one due to laziness. One time I had to do an entire project. 3 people were supposed to research.


One guy sent me a link to Wikipedia and some other website as his "research", and the other never sent me anything. Did it all the night before (including my own part), and deliberately made their parts significantly lower quality.

I let them choose between claiming credit for the bad parts or admitting to doing nothing.

Openly calling people out on not working is a no-go for me.

:phone:
 
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