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[BarDulL]

I can personally attest to the walking hotness that is Esther Baxter.

 

[BarDulL]

Ok, to sum it up, I thought EE was arguing against my initial premise, but he was joking and I skimmed the intent. He acknowledges that working for free is an option unless he was in the circumstances he was in. I was arguing FOR volunteer work/interning and saying that his life at that point needed some kind of change as a means to support my point, which has already happened.

No, I am not inhuman enough to tell him to cast aside his GF, but spending less on her and redirecting his finances would help him alleviate financial burdens in order to have the time to do volunteer work. I did not at any point say that he was making poor life decisions because everyone is different, I suggested ways he could have gone about things so that he would have free time in order to support the idea of working for free to build up a resume, thus supporting my argument for volunteer work to build a resume. I already addressed that moral and emotional constructs inhibit us from making the most rational decision, I wasn't being a ****.

Drinks are probably on me tonight. No one read the last 2 pages at 40ppp

 

[#HBC | Kary]

BarDulL

You're entitled to have your doubts about something, sure, but you can just leave it at 'I'm surprised that ...' rather than going to 'there's no way that...' and end up arguing for the sake of it.

m8

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Maybe if EE didn't spend all his money on 1/6 scale collectible anime figurines he wouldn't be in such a pickle, huh? huh?

Come on, we all know it's true.

/out

 

[Evil Eye]

spending less on her and redirecting his finances would help him alleviate financial burdens in order to have the time to do volunteer work.

actually I said that that would've allowed me to shave my work schedule down to a normal one

and that I still wouldn't have time available during the hours that volunteer work would be needed in my field. there was definitely never a scenario there at all where I could work part time at best buy and do tons of volunteer work during the day and still make our ends meet short of her just up and getting a better job than I've ever had with no experience or education

(wouldn't it be some **** if there's an alternate timeline where she did exactly that and she got the job via affirmative action, and we're still together and I'm doing spiritually satisfying volunteer work, going to the gym, and working evenings at best buy and nights at a bar? What if all that good karma I just don't seem to be getting is actually going to some alternate universe EE??!)



I don't want to belabor it or continue this debate whatsoever, but if someone's going to say "EE conceded X" and I didn't, well.


Kary you got me. They're utterly filthy, filthy things.

 

[BarDulL]

I dunno man, going from 14 hours daily to a normal work schedule seems like you would have plenty of more time, obviously we would have to discuss the nuances of your field, but I don't want to talk about it more either.

Kary can eat a wiener.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

let's go back to killing all of the blacks

 

[Orboknown]

Ok, to sum it up, I thought EE was arguing against my initial premise, but he was joking and I skimmed the intent. He acknowledges that working for free is an option unless he was in the circumstances he was in. I was arguing FOR volunteer work/interning and saying that his life at that point needed some kind of change as a means to support my point, which has already happened.

No, I am not inhuman enough to tell him to cast aside his GF, but spending less on her and redirecting his finances would help him alleviate financial burdens in order to have the time to do volunteer work. I did not at any point say that he was making poor life decisions because everyone is different, I suggested ways he could have gone about things so that he would have free time in order to support the idea of working for free to build up a resume, thus supporting my argument for volunteer work to build a resume. I already addressed that moral and emotional constructs inhibit us from making the most rational decision, I wasn't being a ****.

Drinks are probably on me tonight. No one read the last 2 pages at 40ppp

Im taking you up on this if we ever meet irl

 

[Kantrip]

Speaking of meeting irl, who's going to Genesis?

 

[Spak]

Speaking of meeting irl, who's going to Genesis?

http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/CaptainSpak/media/Walk_zpshfbt1cca.png.html?sort=3&o=0

 

[Spak]

By the way, happy Leftovers Day, DGamesia!

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Speaking of meeting irl, who's going to Genesis?

Me

 

[Cheerilee]

Evil Eye

I really think you should consider or think about setting up a big Kickstarter project. You seem to really be able to crank up those creative juices for A-games and a lot of small time projects on that site are barely imaginative and receive tons of funding. There's a $200,000+ Kickstarter being funded right now called Secret Hitler that's an adaptation to the mafia games that are played here on D-games.

 

[BarDulL]

Cheery, I mean no offense, but I am not in the mood to continue debating and talking about anything related to yesterday in this thread. I may send you a PM later on though in response.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Who wants to argue about dumb stuff with ME instead, bring it on you ****ing nerds

 

[Cheerilee]

Does anyone know a site that is hosting finished Dream Hack London games?

 

[Spak]

DtJ Glyphmoney

DC vs Marvel.
Debate your hearts out; I'm gonna go play some Skyrim.

Does anyone know a site that is hosting finished Dream Hack London games?

Nope.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

DC forever. I mean Marvel is good, if you're the kind of person who likes giving out candy with razor blades in it during halloween I guess

 

[Spak]

I agree...

That's unfortunate, I wanted a full-fledged debate.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Well that's what you get for having good taste you MORON

 

[Maven89]

1. Skylar in Breaking Bad
2. Ending of Lost
3. Marvel Cinematic Univerise and it's impact on movies

Good or bad???

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

1. GOOD - Skylar did some pretty terrible things, but you'd have to have zero empathy to not see that her whole world is being ripped apart and she doesn't really know what to do with it. Plus BB is nice enough to give you some context as to what truly terrible people look like, and Skyler ain't one of them.
2. WEIRD - I gave up on Lost way before the final season, but from what I've heard I made the right decision. Throwing out all this intrigue and mystery is amazing, but you have to have a gameplan for it or you're just leading your viewers on a wild goose chase. I wish I could recapture how ****in cool it was to see the early Lost moments like seeing the light in the Hatch turn on or wondering what the Smoke Monster was, but at the end of the day I don't know that there was even an explanation out there that would have sat well with me.
3. KIND OF DEPENDS??? - You're a damn liar if you want to try and pretend the first Avengers movie wasn't one of the most fun movies to come out in a long, LONG time (not really I know people have their own preferences or whatever, but you can't deny that movie wasn't the gigahit that it was by chance). It looked like it was going to be the start of a golden era of super hero movies, but then its just kind of been a downhill slide since then. There's still been some seriously quality ones (Winter Solder and Guardians of the Galaxy spring to mind), but so much of what gets pumped out now is flat out forgettable. Remember Thor 2: The Thorening? Me neither. I guess the mediocre ones are outweighed by how amazing the really good ones have been, but its a very delicate balance and it is very much in danger of wearing out its welcome. I do not think it will last as long as Marvel seems to think with their million year plan for all their movies.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

1. totally unlikeable because the show is genius, which is why i say very good because, objectively, you cant deny how good and brave of a heart she must have to make the decisions she did. i cant say anything more than very good tho cuz i think the actor for her was kinda meh and i hate her verbal mannerisms and some of her lip things. weird but VERY well written.

2. the show overstayed its welcome and, considering that, i think it did fine. couldve been much worse and couldnt have done much to be better.

3. **** superhero movies they suck and theyre oh wait apparently im not allowed to use the word gay in public uhh stupid.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

fave non smith-or-sanchez rick and morty character

sleepy gary

 

[#HBC | J]

Skylar is literally my favorite character of BB. Like just wow.

Meh.

and God bless super hero movies because they have been a positive influence for the most part on movies as whole.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

superhero movies are a negative influence to movies as a whole and to say theyre anything more than a cathartic, shallow experience is, well, dumb. superhero movies are easy and safe. and they make money because their formula is something simple and clingable, and its unfortunate that the trifecta of critically remarkable, intellectually stimulating, and unique conception cant be expected to be funded. the majority of people like simple because, often times, they arent given the opportunity to experience something with depth. and that sucks.

 

[Maven89]

I saw all the super hero movies up to the first Avengers, which I liked. Never saw any of the ones afterwards except for guardians of the Galaxy because I was already bored of it. As someone who wasn't a comic book fan in the first place, I'm already over it. I really like Batman but I have zero interest to see the new batman v superman movie because superheroes themselves are overdone, like zombies. Remember when it was really cool when Dead Rising came out, because it was a zombie game? Now no one cares and it'll probably suck.

Then because of the marvel cinematic universe we're seeing the start of other cinematic universes, "aka print this basic formula repeatedly until it runs out of money" That can work for a single franchise (Bond), but not a franchise of franchises.

 

[Evil Eye]

Yeah how the sweet balls could CBMs be considered a good influence on film? Hollywood needs LESS incentive to pander to cheap cookie cutter formulas not more

Like the mcu is a novel concept and all but. The output really isn't that good. Thor sucked. Captain America 1 was just barely good. Incredible Hulk was meh. Iron Man 2 was a 120min commercial for the avengers. GotG is probably the best marvel movie just because it does its own thing and doesn't worry about making itself easy to tie into a bunch of other bull****, or Iron Man 1, because it was a Standalone origin story more than a prop

The only truly great influence of cbm's imo is that The Dark Knight tricked people into watching a film with some emotional and thematic complexity, and yet unsurprisingly this hasn't been an example followed by the genre

 

[Maven89]

I'm going to go a little futher with this

While I really loved Batman Begins, I have real problems with it's finale. It's this gritty take on Batman, that ends with a bunch of ninjas trying to release crazy gas in the city. I know part of this is my own lack of knowledge, I never heard of Rhas Al Ghul or the League of Shadows before the movie, but it really took me out of the film. I asked one of my friends if they could have done the League of Shadows without giving them traditional ninja outfits, he said "**** no dude" but that'd be my suggestion

Then let's gow ith Bond for a second. While I loved Casion Royale, Skyfall was by far a superior film (never saw Spectre). Casino Royale was interesting, but it wasn't really Bond. Bond is a cultural icon, and while watching an origin story of the character was interesting, it'd only be interesting once. Quantum of Solace was ****, but Skyfall managed to combine both the more gritty Bond with the actual Bond character. He made quips and drove badass cars and was overall a perfect representation of what every man wishes they were, which is always what Bond was supposed to be. If you're not going to have a Bond that's like that then just make your own spy character instead of ruining a character that's been around for over half the time there's been movies. Skyfall's scene at Bond's home was some of my favorite scenes in any Bond movie. Remember when movies were allowed to be fun?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

i personally dont like bond but i liked skyfall cuz i wasnt just expected to go along with the movie "cuz its james bond ya know?!" a british spy movie done right is kingsmen imo.

 

[Evil Eye]

While I really loved Batman Begins, I have real problems with it's finale. It's this gritty take on Batman, that ends with a bunch of ninjas trying to release crazy gas in the city. I know part of this is my own lack of knowledge, I never heard of Rhas Al Ghul or the League of Shadows before the movie, but it really took me out of the film. I asked one of my friends if they could have done the League of Shadows without giving them traditional ninja outfits, he said "**** no dude" but that'd be my suggestion

There are people that say the LOS are a bad adaptation of their comic counterpart because they changed the ****ing name, slightly from League of Assassins and are butthurt about it to this day lol

food for thought but prior to actually dressing up for the final battle, all the LOS ninjas are posing as people like cops or other normal people. Remember all the infiltration Ra's talked about? They behaved like totally normal people right down to dress code until it was time for all out war pretty much. And hey, it was night time, so their ninja garbs were somewhat useful.

I dunno. I have plenty of issues with BB but this isn't one of them at all. Die Hard is a movie where a single guy kills and arrests like two dozen genius terrorists and tricks the last one by ducttaping a gun to his back. Lots of movies sound stupid as **** when you describe them in one sentence without context.


Kingsman is more of a social satire that utilizes and parodies Bond tropes than an actual "British spy movie" but I'll tell you one thing it sure as **** made megalomaniacs compelling again. More than I can say for SPECTRE.

EDIT: I've seen Casino Royale like 9 times, it's one of my favorite 007 movies. You can pick up on the little things as he slowly becomes the James Bond everybody knows and loves and the things that nudge him in that direction. Like come on, the slapstick of Bond trying to keep up with a parkour-trained terrorist was like a 21st century version of Roger Moore's Bond schtick. I personally love rewatchin' it and watching Bond be born.



I think this all calls for an EE wall nobody asked for. brace your butts

 

[Evil Eye]

Iron Man - This movie proved you can have a film contain superheroics and have it actually tackle interesting themes and character development without just going all grim all the time. Tony Stark is an actually, truly selfish ass and actually, truly undergoes a radical overhaul in his worldview. It has a few missteps and the final fight with Iron Monger basically established every bad marvel movie trope, from the DBZ-esque villain dialogue to the generally cookie cutter nature of the tensions and all. But overall Tony Stark's character arc is great, the supporting cast is great, it firmly establishes its own unique tone and I felt truly compelled and moved by it. 4/5

The Incredible Hulk - Kind of a huge mess, I'm not surprised to hear that Ed Norton was passionate going in and angry coming out. Uh, no pun intended. It had some slick action scenes and I liked the idea of someone at apex level human skill trying to fight the Hulk and chasing down madness and mutation in the process but that whole motivation for the villain was sloppy and the writing for Liv Tyler's character was trashballs garbage, damn did they make a flake out of her. She basically establishes the next cookie cutter in the formula and probably the most unfortunate one. The music was cool. Generally speaking I feel like this movie put interesting ideas on the table and did little to nothing to accomplish them emotionally so it's all just this kind of empty banal experience riding on the back of a few good action scenes. 2.5/5

Captain America: The First Avenger - This movie basically takes the cookie cutters and tries to own them. I'm okay with it in this specific instance because Cap himself is kind of hokey, and the movie was inwardly poking fun at itself. I like that the movie was willing to be hammy. Captain America himself is practically propaganda (which is addressed thematically and an interesting point). Peggy was there because they needed a romance, but I liked her character, and I bought that she'd be endeared to Steve the way she was. I liked their whole gee-whiz chemistry. I liked the hilarious bombs in the plane at the end with labels on them for the city they were going to hit. I wanted more of that stuff. A lot of this movie is just kind of well-produced and formulaic, but Chris Evans's performance as Steve Rogers saves it for me and singlehandedly elevates the movie above himself. I knew Evans would be the perfect Cap ever since I saw Sunshine. All in all this is a really average movie held up by the fact that nothing in it is done badly and it has a few flashes of sincere greatness. Also the final fight is dope. 3/5

Thor - Ugh. The beginnings of the Crappening. I'll get the good out of the way: Hemsworth is pretty hilarious as Thor and I like that he's actually a flat out **** that's completely out of his element on Earth. I like that he ends up in a small town instead of a huge metropolitan city as is the stereotype. I like that comic relief and timing is woven into the movie and the laughs it gave me were a lot more satisfying than literally any of the action. But this is where the movies really start to feel as much like props for other movies as ... their own thing. The whole SHIELD subplot was woven in alright, but just. Okay for example. Kat Dennings's character clearly had infinitely more in common with Thor. If they were going to try to subvert cliches, guess what, those characters would have ended up together. Natalie Portman's character got with him because... she was the female lead and that's it. I wish Thor had an evenhanded chemistry with all the people in the town. Why plop him in a small town if you're going to miss this huge opportunity? Thor gains humanity and respect for the worth of human life in a small town thanks to his friends and all that. They could have really played with that and made the monster giant thing's rampage through the town gutwrenching as it tears apart familiar locations and characters. Instead it's just rampaging across a bunch of backlot set that I don't care about and beating up characters I don't care about. Yeah let's have the power of wubs be what engages Thor to humanity and not even have the balls to own the fact that that's what we're doing, great storytelling would watch again ever for any reason. Loki's motivation was cool but he seems to just change his mind left and right and back based on plot needs instead of an inherent self that made sense to me (like the Joker, whose actions are far more chaotic but never felt off). Anthony Hopkins as Odin was good and not phoning it in for once. I'm just kind of rambling but that's because this movie is a mess. Also, it tries (and fails miserably) to make Thor's friends from Asgard actual characters with halfarsed banter and atypical character traits. That's something I liked about Cap -- you're not really expected to care about any of the Howlin' Commandos other than Bucky, and you're not expected to think of them as anything more than their gimmicky abilities and skills. People complain about that but I fail to see how that's worse than 1.9 dimensional characters that I don't care about eating up screentime. 1.5/5

Iron Man 2 - **** this movie. **** it up the butt. It starts strong enough -- Mickey Rourke is fearsome and more importantly Sam Rockwell is one of the most brilliantly underrated character actors ever put on film. I loved his motivation as Justin Hammer. Someone who hates Tony Stark not even because he's Iron Man, but has a real personal axe to grind with him, and literally any bad thing he does or plans is always about destroying Stark's life and legacy. Unfortunately after he breaks Whiplash out of jail Hammer becomes completely and utterly incompetent, like he took a **** in between scenes and all of his brain matter got fired out his ass like a cannon. He just becomes so unbearably stupid that it was a complete distraction and made it feel like Whiplash's betrayal wasn't earned at all, so I felt no stakes, no "oh ****" moment, no nothing. Just a general disappointing feeling of "really, that's how you're setting up the climax? You lazy asshole of a writer, go to hell." I'm not even trying to ****-ride Christopher Nolan here but The Joker is another great example. The mafia hires him and he slowly starts to turn things around from inside their operation, to the point that eventually even Sal "The Boss" Maroni can't keep track of what he's done and has no illusions of control over the situation. Whiplash and Hammer's relationship on the other hand just takes Hammer from a compelling, coldhearted genius and 180s him into a buffoonish comic relief. Writing like this is exactly why people don't respect comics or comic movies. How to make it better? Oh that's where the number one flaw comes in -- the fact that literally the entire story of THIS MOVIE screeches to a complete halt halfway through and basically just sets up Marvel Cinematic Universe **** that has barely anything to do with anything that's going on other than a tenuous thematic connection via Howard Stark's legacy. Here's how Iron Man 2 could've been good: Throw that whole middle arc in the can and actually join the first and third acts with a competent story. Jerks. Ugh. 2/5

The Avengers - Fun. This movie plays with basically all of its moving parts and does it well. It's actually, sincerely funny at times and actually, sincerely surprising at times. Funny enough, with about 1/10th the screentime this movie does a great job with the whole brotherly bond conflict between Loki and Thor than the actual Thor movie did. I actually liked and understood Loki in this movie. Also even Stellan Skarsgaard's friendship with Thor is better in this movie and he's in like 2.5 ****in scenes. Other than the part where the characters decide to be assholes and fight for no reason partway through the movie (wtf was that even about), the movie is bereft of stupid **** or blatant writing oversights. The action is good (I've never seen a destruction climax like that... until Man of Steel anyway), the banter is on point, the characters play off each other well and we get some great setpieces (the SHIELD helicarrier **** was awesome). Did it change the game the way people tried to say at the time? Nah. It also doesn't justify like 4 movies to prop it up. But on its own it's a funny, thrilling movie I enjoyed watching and would watch again. 3.5/5

 

[#HBC | Kary]

I have this theory that Thor is a sappy romance novel wearing an action film's pants. Like, frustrated hardworking woman meets mysterious handsome stranger and they fall in love? Ya feel me?

In general I don't mind the cookie-cutter marvel movies. They're nice just to pass the time, if they have some kind of interesting characters or theme that's really just a cherry on top.

Kingsmen I really didn't like on the other hand. It wasn't serious enough for me to care about the characters or plot, and it didn't go hard enough into being a parody to be particularly funny imo. Idk, the church scene was pretty cool but really that was it.

 

[Evil Eye]

Kingsmen is to OTT spy action movies what Die Hard was to regular action movies


Thor could totally be called Thorlight. He even looks like a romance novel's cover model

 

[Cheerilee]

I felt like the Skyfall movie tapped into the whole Bond is tired of his job let's let him pretend to do a 180 although we all know that he is going back to work at the end of the day because he is chained to the Bond trope.

 

[ranmaru]

So. What is Dgames doing as in... meeting up?

How are things?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I felt like the Skyfall movie tapped into the whole Bond is tired of his job let's let him pretend to do a 180 although we all know that he is going back to work at the end of the day because he is chained to the Bond trope.

See Spectre.

 

[Maven89]

So. What is Dgames doing as in... meeting up?

We don't do that anymore after Laundry gave us all herpes

 

[ranmaru]

Oh.

... why am I still premium... ^.~

 

[Cheerilee]

See Spectre.

Tie in was pretty great. Especially since I remember nearly everything about Skyfall. Skyfall was a lot better than Spectre as a cohesive movie.