You recognize that Gorf is trolling and you still walk into it and then you run headlong into Xonar who half wants to get his point across (which I think you missed on your first swing) and half just wants to argue so he can argue. Especially if he thinks he's right. Important subject aside, are you sure you picked the right place to fight for it?
sometimes im a little scared by how well you know me
The difference is that you deal with most obnoxious people individually, and usually passively, rather than attributing a trait to the group at large and saying "well, the obnoxious gays are the reason people don't have respect for gays as a whole, and their obnoxiousness is their fault, so the lack of respect for gay people in society is also their fault."
But did I? No. I'm saying it's a two-way street. On one hand, it's society being terrible about it. On the other hand, it is also some gay people giving them something to latch on to. []
To go back to the original point, which was this one guy passing as a "good gay" (which you think is how straight people label gays apparently, talk about victimizing yourself)... Yes, I do think people are more accepted when they do not conform to negative stereotypes. Is it unfair that they have to avoid a certain set of character traits just because they're part of a group with a stereotype and should they conform to it people will point and yell "I told you so!"? No, it's not unfair at all. there's a reason this stereotype exists and it's because people dislike it in general, so for the sake of public decency, shape the **** up. Be a "good gay" or whatever by not being obnoxious the same way the stereotype is just like you should be a "good guy" by not talking about your **** all the time like the stereotype around strange people. If you are that way naturally, then by all means
be that way, but don't expect everyone to like you while you're at it, there's a reason people refer to that stereotype in a negative way.
How 'bout people just come in lots of flavors, and if you don't like the way some of them taste, you can just leave them alone instead of demanding that every ice cream be changed to vanilla?
Nah, not every ice cream. But if you want to be eaten, don't expect the people that like vanilla to eat your chocolate-flavored ass. Don't go telling them "hey chocolate is a flavor just like vanilla, you should like both >: ("
And I'm saying that though the stereotype my come from a place of truth, that still doesn't mean that you get to dictate which kinds of personalities are or are not acceptable. If someone is ruining your morning by minding their own business, then the problem lies with you, not them. If they're directly in your face about something, that's a different conversation altogether.
Yeah, and I agree, what I'm saying is that they shouldn't go around telling people not to dislike them for doing that, just because that's who they are.
You can dismiss them as buzzwords, but I'm speaking the truth. Straight privilege is the expectation of others to conform to traits and values that you naturally feel more comfortable in yourself. In fact, this is not just expected, but often demanded. It is that idea that the popular straight opinion should dictate what is normal, thereby deciding what is abnormal and ripe for mockery or shaming.
Uhm, I don't see how sexual orientation has anything to do with that.
