Dexter Mafia ~ ...?

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Gheb, in addition, asdioh hasn't been willing to firmly beleve glyph for no reason, like you say. I've already explained tan's reasons, and there much better than asdioh's.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Seems like people seem to be of different opinions here but that doesn't surprise me. Yeah, it looks like Asdioh is taking a more logical approach than Tanny now but I can see town Tanny being confident enough to stick with her opinion even when it's dumb. ScumAsdioh on the other hand might be more looking out to do what town considers right to leave a better impression but that's all speculation.

Something that hit me recently is that it's a bit strange that all flips we have so far are town ... with Ryker being either kidnapped or janned we have 5 people gone [either temporary or for good] and none of them flipped scum. How likely is it that out of 1/3 of the game you'll end up with not a single scumbag? Not even an indy? Moot point since all roles are randomized but I can't get the idea out of the head and I still strongly consider Asdioh / Ryker scumteam.

 

[Tandora]

Asdioh, a Glyph mafia flip wouldn't clear me but you also can't really draw any conclusions from it either. Treat it as a null-tell.

And Tandora is being silly now - are you just going to ignore all the facts? When Glyph flips scum at the end of they day will you still make the completely baseless claim that you *know* there are multiple sane cops in the game? Why would the reasoning for this be so hard to explain for you in the first place? You're not even dodging any questions but you flat-out admit that you can't answer them and yet you claim to know that we have more than one sane cop in this game and that you believe Glyph is one of them [which you also can't explain logically]. Are you expecting anybody to follow you or agree with you?

I'm not ignoring the facts.
Regardless of Glyph's flip, I will still stand by my claim of multiple sane cops.
I've given reasons and I've tried to be as logical as possible.

Ultimately today comes down to choosing if we believe you or Glyph. I feel the main argument is that Glyph has to be lying because there cannot be multiple sane cops. I'm saying without a shadow of a doubt that there are multiple sane cops.

I admit that's primarily why I am picking Glyph over Gheb. Part of me is worried that Glyph is wrong about his sanity, but I believe that he honestly believes that he is a legit town cop.

I don't know if anyone else will follow me. I hope they make their own conclusions and are right, but I'm going to stand in what I believe in and I believe this- Glyph is telling the truth.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

I'm not ignoring the facts.
Regardless of Glyph's flip, I will still stand by my claim of multiple sane cops.
I've given reasons and I've tried to be as logical as possible.

>logical

>Favor

Ultimately today comes down to choosing if we believe you or Glyph. I feel the main argument is that Glyph has to be lying because there cannot be multiple sane cops. I'm saying without a shadow of a doubt that there are multiple sane cops.

>More Flavor

I admit that's primarily why I am picking Glyph over Gheb. Part of me is worried that Glyph is wrong about his sanity, but I believe that he honestly believes that he is a legit town cop

>Sanity spasms
>"confirmed sane"


>Because of flavor

I don't know if anyone else will follow me. I hope they make their own conclusions and are right, but I'm going to stand in what I believe in and I believe this- Glyph is telling the truth.

>AtE

When are you going to give up and stop defending your scumbud?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

DH you sure are good at saying the word "flavor" I would like to congratulate you and present you with this:

THE "I THINK I'M TROLLING" AWARD!

Lets hear it for our champion!

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Glyph, I have crushed tan's arguments over and over again and she still is brnging them up. It's quite annoying.

Yelling like a mindless maniac when you're "the cop" isn't helpful either. you're apparently the cop. Why are you playing anti-town?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

So we're mainly waiting for J and JTB to do something toDay, right?

 

[JTB]

You keep dropping my name like I've done nothing bro

 

[Asdioh]

Can I vote Glyph now? I don't like his attitude.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Glyph has been shouting mindlessly for a while now. What made you change your mind?

 

[#HBC | J]

Asdioh, wait.

Sorry about the delay of me posting, I didn't get home till past 12 and just woke up. ^^"

 

[Asdioh]

Glyph has been shouting mindlessly for a while now. What made you change your mind?

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12710136&postcount=3533

Also we're lynching J soon as well.
I got a feel bro.

 

[JTB]

lol Asdioh, I knew that was going to change your mind here

 

[Asdioh]

And for the record, it may be meta, but this is the cocky scumGlyph I'm used to seeing by now. He has a .... way of posting that makes him look both confident and apathetic at the same time.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I may be the "safe" lynch, but gheb is certainly the smart lynch. What do we get from a gheb scum flip? Reads, plus confirmation of my claim. Gheb town, confirms me as scum. What comes from my lynch? You get gheb as scum tomorrow if i'm telling the truth (which i am) and a second dead cop, and like 2 reads if i was to have made it up.

 

[#HBC | J]

Glyph, you are dieing today. Capice?

Asdioh, I need to have a talk with you when this post I am making is done, also quit making me laugh so much this game xD

 

[Asdioh]

If for no other reason, we should lynch J because he still can't spell "lying" or "dying" correctly after I've explicitly told him how to spell.

Glyph, you make a pretty good point :/ I still don't want to mislynch cops two Days in a row, which I said freaking Day 1. I also think Gheb's reaction to your claim came off as scummy: you claimed a guilty, he immediately said we should just ignore you, and then built up to "we definitely need to lynch Glyph"

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

glyph, explain to me the "reads" we could get from your lynch.

In addition, if we do lynch gheb, and he flips town, you could easily be some sort of one-shot ability and use it that night.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

You keep dropping my name like I've done nothing bro

Well, what *have* you done toDay?

 

[CT Chia]

Vote Count 2-3

The deadline has been set for 3:00pm EST on May 19th

With 11 players alive it takes 6 to lynch!

Tandora (0) -
Glyph (4) - Soupamario, Rajam, vVv Choice, Dark Horse,
JTB (0) -
Rajam (0) -
vVv Choice (0) -
Gheb_01 (2) - Glyph, Tandora,
Soupamario (0) -
T-block (0) -
Dark Horse (0) -
Asdioh (0) -
J (0) -

No Lynch (0) -

Not Voting (5) - T-block, J, Gheb_01, JTB, Asdioh,

 

[#HBC | J]

Choice, about how RR flipped town and my spazz out, realize that RR was saying "you dint put it in black and white, its not true" for several times at the time of those posts. Now that he flipped town, hes probably the worst cop ever.

Do you ever feel bad for what you say? It's so curt and just upright rudeness. However, you say now that he flipped town, it wasn't your fault for going after him and he was just the worst cop ever? Lol what?

I somehow feel like we should ignore Glyph.

Mainly because we already have a confirmed sane cop flipped and I know I'm town so ... you're either wrong or trolling.

Asdioh, the first thing I thought with that many NKs was that there could be multiple mafia factions.

This looks familiar. Uncannily familiar.

Yeah, let's assume that he's telling the truth after the cop already flipped.
He's lying in case you didn't notice yet.

Why automatic just shut down?

Glyph, tell me your reads and why you decided to investigate gheb, why do you feel the people who died..well, died?

NK speculation is horrendous way to go.

And tbh Glyph should seriously be lynched at the end of the day for all the WIFOM BS we have to deal with because of him. Why did we decide to lynch RR again? Right, it's because Glyph CC'd confirmed Sane cop, THE SAME THING RED RUY FLIPPED. There's no reason to believe it at all.

Did you realize we have as much WIFOM around you as well? Again with the constant discrediting of it.

@people: side with Gheb or Glyph when you arrive. I personally think the way Gheb responded to the guilty shows that he's scum.

Why can't they both be scum? I agree with your GhebScum logic but for other reasons as well. Both need to die.

@town: Just ask yourselves, "Do I really want to have the same train of thought as Soup?"

I feel terrible to admit I lol'd.

Actually yeah, I'm even more inclined to believe there are two sane cops if we consider this possibility. Remember, anything is possible in mafia, including a town JoaT that has a 1/4 chance to either watch, protect, vig, or neighbor their target, and just happens to kill the mafia tracker!

Again, quit making me laugh! That was hilarious.

I hope I'm being trolled -.-

Again, discrediting.

So why exactly is anybody believing Glyph?

ARE YOU ALL STUPID? Just look at the stuff he posts.

Just giving some examples in my next post.

Now everyone is stupid for even playing with the idea that Glyph could be telling the truth? AtR and again this is really really REALLY familiar. You know exactly what I'm talking about.

Glyph scum
Asdioh / Ryker scum team

How in the world is Asdioh/Ryker scum-team? You keep saying it and saying it. It doesn't make sense like even in the slightest. Also what I deleted in this post on purpose but then realize I wanted it holds importance. It reminds me of something you did to someone in another game.

@J, when you made your big 332, you made several questions to WL, nonetheless when he responded he basically told you to shut up (in 375), and you didn't insist. For example you asked why WL "cleared" Ryker by saying Ryker's reaction was genuine. You seeked clarification from WL other times in the same 332; why he considered Tandora scum... were you even following these questions? Why was WL's response acceptable to you?
now, do you think Soupamario is scum?

I was following his questions but I liked what he was giving me. I can't very well go into detail with what could have happened since he's dead but *shrug*. Yes, I think Soupa is scum. Scum reads include: Glyph/Gheb/Soupa/DH-TBlock

What do you mean "excluding yourself"? I am not scummy. Nobody toDay has pointed out how I am supposed to be scummy.

"I am not scummy." Really? o_O

Give a solid reason why to keep you alive besides that you are the cop and i'll vote gheb.

Lol waaaaat @ bolded.

Woah, not so fast there. What happened to your other suspects? Last time I checked you had a clear town read on me before this whole mess got out of hand. Do you actually think that I'm scum and Glyph coming up with a reason to keep him alive will somehow substantiate this ... something you yourself claimed to not believe in earlier?

T-Block can definitely live for now though. I'll look at him in case we'll have a janitor flip because that essentially nullify the possibility of Asdioh / Ryker scumteam in my book-

I kindof liked this post at first glance but then I re-read it and found that I actually don't like it. The reason I liked it was because he called Soupa out on his flip-flopping to go with whatever some other people wanted. However then I realized how defensive it actually was. He is pressuring Soupa to keep his original opinion, "Lynch Glyph." in his mind and not have the new thought to lynch Gheb in.

Now I am gonna comment on some of the D1 posts I missed that expicitly portray to toDay's actions so far that no one has seemed to go back and re-read correctly.

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Gheb is scum.

Vote Red Ruy

Lynch J / Gordo / JTB, ignore Ryker

Gheb is spouting nonsense. Ruy trying to hammer himself is about the scummiest thing I've ever seen. You don't let counter claimants live when the other flips town, especially when one is scummy and one is inactive.

Gheb, get vigged.

No, I legit think Ryu is dumb enough to believe he's outing Glyph as scum that way and he's forgetting both could simply be cop variations. It's true that Ryu is scummy though but J is worse and he should die asap

Allow me to repeat myself,

get vigged Gheb.

Where does the idea come from that RR and Glyph are confirmed to be not from the same faction? It's still perfectly possible.

Yeah sure, but one of them is scum and one of them might be scum. It's unlikely though. Get out of here.

There aren't multiple cops and I will start shooting people who continue to try and make it okay for Glyph and Ryu to both be town.

i've played a setup before where there was a every variation of cop, but i prefer not to delve into setup speculation.

RR is going to die toDay most likely, i really am dissapointed in the lack of defending himself and thinking this is a good option (which suffice to say could be in turn if glyph does flip scum) but it's almost like a 'i give up.'

also, y gheb so scum this game

I got objections @ shooting me. I also didn't see both claimed confirmed sanity. Why didn't you just tell me earlier rather than playing this dumb spiel, Ryker? The misunderstanding was obvious when I mentioned cop variations.

i think J is town for now, i'll give it so more thought when i'm going over t-block in the night.

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Alright let me go into detail as to why I collected this quotes. They hold some insight. Ryker first starts off with ending RR by saying Gheb is scum regardless of a RR flip. Ryker says that at least one of Glyph/RR is scum and I think he is right with that. (Which is why we are still lynching Glyph) However, he also thinks Gheb is apart of the scum-team that holds Glyph/RR. He tells Gheb to "get vigged" which Gheb immediately starts saying "ignore Ryker." Just like he has been doing to Glyph all day toDay. Another thingy, Gheb said yesterDay it was entirely possible that there could be two cops then as toDay starts going and people start thinking Gheb could actually be scum, he says there is no way in hell that there are two cops and that Glyph is lieing/should be ignored/lynched. Personally, this seems like classic distancing. He was protecting Glyph yesterDay but now he is full-frontal attacking him. It is like he did a 180. Ryker told him it wasn't possible and Gheb did not agree but now he agrees with Ryker now that a guilty has appeared on him? Then someone speaks up that has been contradicting himself all day, Soupa. Soupa said yesterDay two key things that he has 180'd on as well. He said, "y Gheb so scum this game." and "J is town to me." nooooow here is where it gets interesting. ToDay straight off the bat Soupa is defending Gheb and saying Glyph is full of silliness. What happened to that strong scum-read he had in him? Then he also makes a case connecting J-TB apparantly based on some reaching points which have been pointed out by TB. He also begins buddying Gheb with this thingy where Gheb does something weird where he has dropped my name from his vocabulary unless it's to ask for prods or ask for content from me. I think this is what he is saying where if he doesn't think something is important enough they are not mentioning it because he said yesterDay that J-RR is the scum-team if one of them flip scum but now that one hasn't he has completely dropped me and has been mainly focusing on Glyph/Asdioh/Ryker as scum. Alsooooo Gheb's weak crumbed that he had a PR when he said "I have objections to shooting me" and it's also just defensive as well, which is primarily how Gheb has been all day. He has stopped scum-hunting and more stuck towards covering his ***. [meta section] See I think Gheb is scum alot more after reading toDay more thoroughly and going over his play a bit since it reminds me exactly what happened when we were scum-buds in Mafia Royal Sleepover. The cop got a guilty on him N1 and he is acting almost cookie cutter like to what happened there in this game. He is saying to ignore the idiocy or lynch him but just get rid of him. He did the same to OS and he also fake-crumbed that he had a PR in order to save himself from a lynch and it also succeeded there until D3. Because of Gheb's little cop stunt and defensive attitude he helped the scum-team win the game by getting the attention focused onto him. [/meta section] Gheb toMorrow.

Asdioh, why haven't you been listening to Ryker w.r.t to some things? Mainly considering someone last night. Anyways, you also didn't listen to Ryker saying that there are most certainly not two cops. Quit being naive and thinking that. I don't know what has gotten into Tanny but she needs to snap out of it as well.

Lynch Glyph
Vig Gheb REGARDLESS of flip or we lynch him toMorrow.

Do not deviate from this. This is what Ryker wanted as well which people have seemed to forgotten since he isn't a presence atm.

Vote: Glyph

Town: J/Asdioh/Tanny/Choice
Null: Rajam/JTB
Scum: Glyph/Gheb/Soupa/Dark Horse/TB

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I love how J disappears off my radar as soon as D2 starts. Only to have him come back with a blisteringly scummy post to muck things up. Still sticking to my scumreads for now though.

 

[#HBC | J]

I love how Gheb stays on my radar as soon as D2 starts. Only to have him go "you scum" to a post to stay consistent with my reads. Still sticking to him being shot for now though.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

You mad?

 

[#HBC | J]

You sad I actually read?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Sad? wtf

 

[#HBC | J]

Idk I couldn't say mad since you said it but I wanted to say something along those lines. ._.

I suck at trying to smack-talk.

 

[Asdioh]

*wonders aloud if he should hammer Glyph since not a hell of a lot is going to happen toDay*

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Bah, I was hoping for JTB to do something worthwhile, whatver ...

Vote Glyph

 

[Asdioh]

feel free to steal hammer rights from me, so that I'm under "not voting" two Days in a row >:E

But if he flips town cop, then all the better for me!

 

[T-block]

feel free to steal hammer rights from me, so that I'm under "not voting" two Days in a row >:E

But if he flips town cop, then all the better for me!

Wow self-preservation much? Really don't like this post.

I don't see why the day has to end when J has just caught up. I haven't read his post entirely yet.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

HOLY COW @ Asdioh's last post. Kill that ***** asap toMorrow. Calling total BS @ his mason claim with Ryker.

 

[CT Chia]

Vote Count 2-4

The deadline has been set for 3:00pm EST on May 19th

With 11 players alive it takes 6 to lynch!

Tandora (0) -
Glyph (6) - Soupamario, Rajam, vVv Choice, Dark Horse, J, Gheb_01,
JTB (0) -
Rajam (0) -
vVv Choice (0) -
Gheb_01 (2) - Glyph, Tandora,
Soupamario (0) -
T-block (0) -
Dark Horse (0) -
Asdioh (0) -
J (0) -

No Lynch (0) -

Not Voting (3) - T-block, JTB, Asdioh,


A majority has been reached!

It is now Twilight 2. All players may continue to talk, but no more votes can be cast or removed. Twilight will end when I see fit.

 

[Asdioh]

lol at Gheb and T-block.

I was actually surprised that Gheb hammered Glyph though, I thought he was already voting him.

 

[#HBC | J]

I have to agree with Asdioh that Gheb/TB are being silly. That is super inflating.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Nah, I think we should lynch Asdioh toMorrow anyway.

 

[#HBC | J]

How about no?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I didn't ask you.

 

[#HBC | J]

Gheb, can you explain why in the world you quick-hammered? Especially if you wanted JTB to do more?

Oh, I know you didn't ask. I'm just telling you that's not what's gonna happen. Asdioh's town to me, I am not gonna let him get lynched. Plus when scum says to lynch _____ it kindof becomes a moot point.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Since I'm not scum the point isn't moot.