Dexter Mafia ~ ...?

[#HBC | Laundry]

Catch up more then and if it's still there when you're done, I'll take it seriously.

 

[JTB]

posting while I have a chance, a ****storm hit my house this morning and it's really hard for me to get on a computer

I'm fine with your answer Ryker. I don't care what your methods are, what's important to me is that you are helping town win and that's why I asked that question.

Gheb, if I don't see any reasoning behind your votes, then I am to believe they are random

When my house is finally calm, I'll go re-read RR and WL.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

soup is an idiot who should be copped (notice how tan simply states this. She doesn't state any thoughts on soup's alignment.

Why these three, not me (mep)

Attack on skimming (One of the biggest leads I have on tan's meta is, when she's scum, she will attack people for dumb reasons, (like skimming) [go check out tan's original analysis on ryu in D&D if you have no idea what i'm talking about. Or a post in inception, where she attacks KY for rockin having wrong definition of suicidal townie, even though the arsonist role in the same flash presentation was different than the usual arsonist role in All-Stars, a game tan participated in)

And what's this? An introduction?

FoS: Tan

then there's soup 132 question: "wl I'm asking a bunch of people questions, does that make me town?". RR's reaction was horrible. Soup is obviously implying that wl shouldn't judge people off of that. But RR jumps on it as if soup called himself scum.

SvT here, with RR scum.

Dislike J's recent attack on soup and T-Block.



J essentially went "you are wrong, therefore you are scum". And J, before you attack me for some reason involving implications, realize that implications are also what you've also thrown at soup.

J, what do you think about the early rajam wagon?

did I cut off my reread early? Screw it.

I hated his actions and I still hate how he is playing. I think he either called himself scum or made himself open to make it harder for many players to see if he is town. Soup needs to die.

Also when was I in D&D? I wasn't in D&D mafia.

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Vote: Red Ryu

I'll try to elaborate on this after I finish rereading, but for now I'll just say that I could tell since his first post that he's scum.

huh? How did my first post say I was scum?

RR's 79 Doesn't mention that people always miscontrue him as scum on D1, when he's town. He's said that in other games I've seen him be town in!

111 why FoS me for calling you out on what I felt, and Super FoS because of my claim? Wanting brownie points from Ryker? And then asking T-block why he wants to lynch your mafia buddy? :3

144 still talking about the masonry, finally drops it and ... points out something Soup did that could blatantly be seen as scummy. Asks everyone for thoughts on it... what would they say? "It's a dumb thing to ask, but not necessarily a scumtell, especially since he says stuff like this all the time?" That's how I'd respond.

156 eh. Going after an easy target?

164, 167, 183 pretty null, but still focusing on Soup, who (I may be using meta here) always sticks out and is an easy target

192 probably his towniest post thus far

197 null

204 still about Soup, being rather noncommital, basically looks like he's hoping Soup's play improves?

238 a legitimate question, I wouldn't see it as being defensive when someone comes out of nowhere and says you should die

384 says Gheb is tough to read, calls Rajam out to provide more, more "wtf soup?" type stuff, and brings out what I'm seeing as a townread on WL.


Overall, RR still leaning scummy for me, I'd be happy with more pressure on him, and I'd like to see him focus more on players that aren't Soup.

Well it happens with people all thinking I am scum day 1, but I don't bother constantly saying it each game. So I don't say it in this game and I'm scum? I don't get this Asdioh, you also seem to assume I am scum in any game I'm with you, like other than Upick1 where I was your scummate you seem to see me as immediate scum in each game?

Man Asdioh, no love for me makes me sad, even when I played smash with you Fox at Brainshock,

Ok but mafia talk, like you do assume I am scum a lot when I am town.

I'm going to try to keep this short to avoid making huge walls like J that no one likes to read

Biggest town read is Ryker (who would've guessed?!) I'm loving his play and the fact that he's making summaries for idiots like me who get lazy and don't post for a while is a ****ing godsend.

Choice is hella towny too. I don't know anything about him, so I can't go off meta, but his posts have been extremely pro-town to me. 130 and another post that I wrote down wrong in my notes have town vibes.

Rajam isn't doing anything.

I'm not liking T-Block. 135 in particular, twisting his sentence to find a scumtell is just stupid. Plus his 176 was awfully detailed and defensive, all he had to do was say it was a misread, but he explained it fully. Props to Soup and Ryker if they can think of another situation like this. Possibly Asdioh and Gheb too.

I hate trying to figure out Soupamario, but I think his posting restriction is bull****, he's acting mad cocky in another on-going game and him saying he never acts like this is a straight up lie.

I like J. Alot, actually. While reading and writing down my thoughts, I would scroll down a bit and find that J has been thinking the same thing.

I'll believe Asdioh's mason claim for now as there is no reason not to. I don't like his flavor-fishing for Tandora.

I noticed Glyph didn't include J in his entry post about who to policy lynch. I was like, wat. But I'm fine with that post, after D1 of Touhou, I realized that going with a lynch of the most incompetent player is completely viable.

Gheb is eh, especially with his random votes on Ryker and J.

Tandora posting very different than she did in Dissidia, but idgaf as long as shes helping town.

there are too many players to go over and my eyes are falling asleep from staring at my laptop, so ill just stop here and come back in the morning. i'll leave my unorganized notes though and continue to clean them up laters

Spoiler

Rajam is dumb, good idea to wagon him Ryker

Red Ruy asking stupid questions, 114

Rajam still not getting in the game

Town vibes from Ryker/T-block right now

Choice advice dogging, has he given content?

Soup is in this game? fml, and why does he seem fine with the Day ending early?

Definitely like Choice's 130, doubt about him dispelled

Soup asking wl if he looks town, fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Town read on WL

T-block's 135 is grimy, trying to use sematics as a scumslip from Choice

Soup's question was a test of character? bleh, whatev

Loving Ryker even more if he posts summaries every few pages

Hey look, J and I are thinking alike. Wanna buddy?

Soup is 'mocking' scum? And you wonder why people always find you scummy

RR votes Soup on it, then Soup says HERP DERP SARCASM, no me gusta

WL fluffing

Soup gets reads by acting ******** and seeing who responds, lol k

T-block being defensive with his 176, all he needed to say is that he misread it, no reason to go into detail

J putting in alot of effort despite being on a phone, supa props

Loving Choice too, 180 is pretty good and his first question is a clever trap (I hope he knews that when posting it)

I just recognized RR's avatar, ****ing **** <3

OMG tandora! Her posting style is pretty different from what I saw in dissidia, but it doesn't bother me at all

Soup, you said you are satisfied with your reads, what are they if you would like to share them?

Soup's observation of Rajam not posting anymore is pretty stupid though and not necessary at all

lol @ tandora bringing up so much wifom in her 211

Asdioh speculating on a possible Tandora posting restriction/flavor fishing, what does this accomplish? nothing

Glyph entry post that doesn't include him wanting to lynch J? what is this madness!

Good observation by WL on Soup buddying a claimed mason, I didn't catch that at first. But more on the Tandora "PR", I don't see why it's necessary to bring up at all.

Ryker is a champ with his summary.

I disagree with WL's 232 on Glyph, Glyph just posted that we should get rid of one of the three bad players (in his opinion) before having read anything. Given that it's nearly impossible to find scum D1, I agree with him on it.

Willing to lynch Gord if he doesn't change his font color, seriously hell trying to read while using Smash Blue >_>

Gheb's vote on Ryker is without explanation and out of the blue

What was the point of soups 276 and 279?

299 WHY SOUP WHY

again with the blatant sarcasm that isnt blatant 308

321 tblock ?

I like this from JTB, maybe he won't die D1 or N1 this time, lol.

But yeah he is brief on some points but I see this as being pretty good from JTB.

JTB, you seem to be under the impression that my votes on Ryker and J are random. That's far from true.

Too many people getting bothered by Soup. Lynching him because you lose patience will not be particularly helpful ... if you only look at him as dumb, dead weight and fail to see his genuine attempts to provide genuine content you're playing a short-sighted game. So far he's probably the only one who has questioned the otherwise undisputed town read on Choice. That shows that he's not a tool like I feel a lot of players are and that he's willing to go out on a limb and voice stuff others wouldn't dare to.

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This actually has merit, and make me question if lynching Soup is a good idea. Granted the only reason I would see to not lynch him is if I listened to adumbrodeus in the resident evil Graveyard QT, people in that game were considering Ranmaru scum based on his dumb and odd behavior, the problem was, we can't kill or condemn him on that since his plays and reactions matched straight on town play, he was playing poor, but he is poor town not scum people were looking at the obvious calls to being scum. These don't wrok on most players.

So let's look at soup, he's being dumb and odd like Ranmaru plays, he tries to sometimes scum hunt and lazily says, "nah I won't do it." Many people are getting really annoyed by his play, "Not for being scum in some cases" He is being a distraction with poor play in which many players can't ignore him and look at his call out well.

Evil Eye, Omni, and others have said lynching liabilities is a legit reason to vote someone off. I find Soup to be a liability if he plays this way over the Ran situation where Ran wasn't a liability to town when he scum hunted. Soup is instead making it difficult to see if he is town or scum for many players while giving responses that many people see as absolutely scummy as I've posted before.

I can't see him sticking around as being good at all. He is a liability to town the way he has played and refusing to post much further is only making it more of a need to lynch him.

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I'm not convinced that people should have jumped on Rajam anymore, the way he tries to catch him makes sense since in he does this kind of play, so it's consistent. He tends to be inactive sometimes and focus on specific points so It is not a scum tell for him to play like this.

Asdioh is confusing me a bit but nothing that makes me think he is scum for going after me, since I never see him doing this as a scum tell at all.

@Gheb: Can you explain why going against the norm is exactly good for Soup, I understanding trying to make a read or case could work but why is going against people thinking good things of Choice a good thing to you?

 

[Rajam]

Rajam, it's fairly obvious that I'm using you as a stepping stone. How do you feel about this?

I don't really care. Besides I'm getting a slight town read on you so it's fine I guess...

Of the people who have already posted quite a bit, I'd say WashedLaundry, T-Block and Red Ryu have been a bit reluctant to give information. I'm kind of "among" these people in that regard so I'm not going to blame them for it but since you've asked I'd say these 3 guys have posted, not been scrutinized that much and still have managed to somewhat steal away out of the spotlight.

+1 to this

 

[#HBC | J]

Tandora, I see you there, I am making a post but I have a question for you as I was catching up.

Tell me what you think of Asdioh and Rajam as of now. Also talk about post 483. One last thingy, can you tell me your honest opinion of Ryker, this is a very important question to me girly. No pressure <3 xD

 

[#HBC | J]

T-Block, who is your vote on? Will it be changing to Soupa or RR or someone else you have in mind that is scummy? Be detailed as to who you are gonna pressure and why.

Who are you having trouble reading? I.e. who are your nulls?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

@Gheb: Do you mistrust Choice?

I don't mistrust him to the point where I think he's a good lynch.

So let's look at soup, he's being dumb and odd like Ranmaru plays, he tries to sometimes scum hunt and lazily says, "nah I won't do it." Many people are getting really annoyed by his play, "Not for being scum in some cases" He is being a distraction with poor play in which many players can't ignore him and look at his call out well.

Evil Eye, Omni, and others have said lynching liabilities is a legit reason to vote someone off. I find Soup to be a liability if he plays this way over the Ran situation where Ran wasn't a liability to town when he scum hunted. Soup is instead making it difficult to see if he is town or scum for many players while giving responses that many people see as absolutely scummy as I've posted before.

I can't see him sticking around as being good at all. He is a liability to town the way he has played and refusing to post much further is only making it more of a need to lynch him.

So let me ask you this: the way this game has played out so far would you call Soup the biggest liability we have in this game?

@Gheb: Can you explain why going against the norm is exactly good for Soup, I understanding trying to make a read or case could work but why is going against people thinking good things of Choice a good thing to you?

I already explained that. You could also easily figure this out yourself.

 

[#HBC | J]

Ghebby, tell me what you think of JTB, thanks. Then talk about Tanny please.

 

[Tandora]

Tandora's #199 was a big bunch of nothing. Why the lack of a (clear) scum pick?

The more I play Mafia, the harder it is for me to commit to a DEFINITELY SCUM on Day One. Especially early Day 1. I feel much more comfortable with getting town reads than scum reads early game. I'm not really willing to push my town list for obvious reasons and I don't want to make a scum list because of process of elimination until I'm pretty comfortable with my reads.

Towards the end of Day 1 and beginning of Day 2, you should see more definite stances from me in regards of who I want lynched. I will always help guarantee we avoid a no lynch (unless it is a wise choice late game).

This is simply my playstyle, regardless of alignment. If you don't like it or think it's scummy, then you are unfortunately wrong and will simply waste time bringing focus on it. And quite frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.

Also when was I in D&D? I wasn't in D&D mafia.

He was referring to Ryunnosuke who is also often called Ryu.

Tandora, I see you there, I am making a post but I have a question for you as I was catching up.

Tell me what you think of Asdioh and Rajam as of now. Also talk about post 483. One last thingy, can you tell me your honest opinion of Ryker, this is a very important question to me girly. No pressure <3 xD

I've actually gotten a town vibe from Asdioh. Because of this and his claimed mason with Ryker, I am actually willing to take Ryker's helpful townie attitude as legit. Most of the time if someone is being (not acting, but BEING) a helpful townie, that is because they really are a helpful townie. If it was just Ryker on his own, I'd still be paranoid that he was just being a really good indy, but between the two of them I feel pretty confident they're really town.

Post 483 - I read the first part of it as focusing on Soup and DH, both are players who can be easily mislynched.

Some AtE thrown at Asdioh.

A lot of defensiveness without really adding to the game. A lot of meta talk from another game which ultimately is not very useful.

Final part is saying we should back off of Rajam, who is nowhere near the hot seat at this time and a mixed message regarding Asdioh. Basically I read it as "He confuses me but it's a null tell".

Finishes with asking Gheb why he's giving Soup leeway and not trusting Choice.

So in short, a nice wall of text that scum would be likely to post.

As far as Rajam goes, so far he's not really struck me as scummy. Sloppy town maybe with some of his questions and lagging observations, but not lazy scum.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

So let me ask you this: the way this game has played out so far would you call Soup the biggest liability we have in this game?

So far, yes I would say he is the biggest liability.

I already explained that. You could also easily figure this out yourself.

I quoted it already, I don't agree, it's one thing to call out a player many weren't look at. Later you even admit cases he has made were faulty and wrong.

I want clarification for why you think this makes him look for town, or rather dumb town. You think it's genuine attempts at scum hunting, even though they are poor cases made.

Do you share opinions with him on players like Choice and myself?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Ghebby, tell me what you think of JTB, thanks. Then talk about Tanny please.

I don't care about JTB.
I like Tandora because she's a woman and her last post shows good insight in regards to Ryker.

Do you share opinions with him on players like Choice and myself?

Yes on you. No on Choice

 

[#HBC | J]

It's not like I have anything to hide.

I put my vote on Rajam because Ryker was presenting us with a fine opportunity to jump right out of RVS. I realize it's a scummy action in itself, but the motivations were pro-town.

Did I get everything?

The first isolated part of this quote strikes a chord with me. It is sooooooooo weird and bleck to say "I have nothing to hide." which makes me think you actually do and saying that is just >.>.

@Bolded: ....... I mean I don't know what to say. You say you were doing something deliberately scummy that you knew was scummy which is anti-town but then you say you had pro-town motivations to do it but the overall act was scummy? o_O I am so confused and you need to explain that.

Did you get everything well let me have someone tell you what you missed.

Now do something that isn't reactionary.

Thanks. =3c

J, what do you think about the early rajam wagon?

Well I see what Ryker was doing which was to get out of RVS because I've done stuff like that myself. Though when I do it, I usually get people to vote me to gain reactions on who votes me for what reasons and it does work. I didn't agree to the wagon but I get what Ryker was trying to accomplish with trying to push Rajam. He was gauging reactions and he did not really have the intent to lynch Rajam at all but to see who would be followers to the biggest voice and see if Rajam would crumble to pressure.

Overall based on the Rajam wagon and what I have seen from him as of late, he is null leaning townish a bit.

Tandora/J, I don't like DH.

Meh, I never care for DH in games and I have yet to be in a game where I don't think he is scummy. >.>

@J: A lot of your points in that wall seemed reach-ish, as if you were trying to twist everything you could into something scummy. Or you just plain don't understand what is being said, which might be forgiveable since you're busy. Still, I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with that post. Would you be okay with a Soup lynch toDay? How about my lynch? Did the pressure you applied on Soup actually help with a read on him?

Can you go into detail as to where I was twisting everything I could into making something scummy? Bring up one point you think was reaching and why it is reaching? I am okay with a Soupa lynch. I am okay with your lynch. Yes, my pressure on soupa has given me an even stronger scum read.

Can you guess what my biggest problem with you is? If you can, you'll get a funny gif. *important line*

J, focus on other players besides Soup imo. Just don't write huge walls to attack people (unless they're actually scum, then it's ok)

But I wanna focus on Soup because I think he is scummy as hell though. =< Who do you suggest I look into from your opinion? RR correct? Anyone else. I have my own though I am gonna persue but I'd like your train of thought please.

Evil Eye, Omni, and others have said lynching liabilities is a legit reason to vote someone off. I find Soup to be a liability if he plays this way over the Ran situation where Ran wasn't a liability to town when he scum hunted. Soup is instead making it difficult to see if he is town or scum for many players while giving responses that many people see as absolutely scummy as I've posted before.

I can't see him sticking around as being good at all. He is a liability to town the way he has played and refusing to post much further is only making it more of a need to lynch him.

This part of your post makes me wanna look into you more. So you do not find Soupa scummy now but you feel he is more of a liability. The way your last paragraph is written, it sounds like you think he is town but he should be killed regardless. I don't like that one-bit. If you think they are town they you should not lynch them. That's my personal opinion on that matter. Why vote someone you think as town? There are special circumstances but even then it's still bleck.

Let me get you to clarify this for me, why do you want Soupa dead? One clear cut answer is good enough.

@JTB: Buddies? I think Asdioh would get jealous xD. I like your posts thus far. Keep it up and I might accept the buddy offer. My hands are full though with Ryker/Tanny. Give me your opinion on Dark Horse/Gheb/Tandora in more detail. Then tell me who you are looking to lynch since your vote seems to be in the air. *after you tell me who* If I restricted the lynch picks to Soupa/RR/DH, who would you end up picking and why?

Speaking of hands:

@Ryker: Kay, I'm gonna take a stance on you firmly now. You are town to me. Tanny's opinion is key because she is a strong town read of mine as well. I'm a bit more comfortable that she thinks you are town as well so bros again, you *******? =3c Also can you tell me your thoughts on Red Ryu. I really dislike his last big post.

@Tanny: Thanks for responding to my questions, because you responded so well now I am gonna give you my vote for one time, tell me who you want me to vote and I will.

@WL: I like your last couple of posts w.r.t. the effort it seems you are honestly trying to figure things out. I am still not liking you fully but I thought I'd let you know.

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Random Note
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I won my charity brawl tourny today I went to so I am really in a good mood. ^-^ Also premiere night of the play went pretty swimingly.

 

[#HBC | J]

So far, yes I would say he is the biggest liability.

@Gheb: Why did you ask him to answer this if you don't persue it in your next post?

I don't care about JTB.
I like Tandora because she's a woman and her last post shows good insight in regards to Ryker.

I like that you like Tanny as well. So by not caring about JTB does that mean you think he is scummy or he is useless to you in the sense as of right now?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Well it happens with people all thinking I am scum day 1, but I don't bother constantly saying it each game. So I don't say it in this game and I'm scum? I don't get this Asdioh, you also seem to assume I am scum in any game I'm with you, like other than Upick1 where I was your scummate you seem to see me as immediate scum in each game?

Man Asdioh, no love for me makes me sad, even when I played smash with you Fox at Brainshock,

Ok but mafia talk, like you do assume I am scum a lot when I am town.

Bull**** defense, all of it is AtE, "you **** up meta", and an explanation for the weakest point on Asdioh's wagon. Doesn't acknowledge any of Asdioh's points that he might potentially be going for a weak player or the claims of him not really contributing. Strong dislike of his response.

I hated his actions and I still hate how he is playing. I think he either called himself scum or made himself open to make it harder for many players to see if he is town. Soup needs to die.

Elaborate. What about his actions do you dislike? How did he call himself scum? Make it harder for many players? You're being vague here and I dislike it. There is a middle ground between J's over-thoroughness and your generalness.

This actually has merit, and make me question if lynching Soup is a good idea. Granted the only reason I would see to not lynch him is if I listened to adumbrodeus in the resident evil Graveyard QT, people in that game were considering Ranmaru scum based on his dumb and odd behavior, the problem was, we can't kill or condemn him on that since his plays and reactions matched straight on town play, he was playing poor, but he is poor town not scum people were looking at the obvious calls to being scum. These don't wrok on most players.

So let's look at soup, he's being dumb and odd like Ranmaru plays, he tries to sometimes scum hunt and lazily says, "nah I won't do it." Many people are getting really annoyed by his play, "Not for being scum in some cases" He is being a distraction with poor play in which many players can't ignore him and look at his call out well.

Evil Eye, Omni, and others have said lynching liabilities is a legit reason to vote someone off. I find Soup to be a liability if he plays this way over the Ran situation where Ran wasn't a liability to town when he scum hunted. Soup is instead making it difficult to see if he is town or scum for many players while giving responses that many people see as absolutely scummy as I've posted before.

I can't see him sticking around as being good at all. He is a liability to town the way he has played and refusing to post much further is only making it more of a need to lynch him.

wtf

"he's probably town but he's dumb town and therefore a good lynch, **** scumhunting for today i'll just sit on him until he dies"

unvote vote: Red Ryu

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

The more I play Mafia, the harder it is for me to commit to a DEFINITELY SCUM on Day One. Especially early Day 1. I feel much more comfortable with getting town reads than scum reads early game. I'm not really willing to push my town list for obvious reasons and I don't want to make a scum list because of process of elimination until I'm pretty comfortable with my reads.

You can still have someone you're most suspicious of. If you're vote's not anywhere but you're suspicious of someone, you're doing it wrong.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

What's the point of all these inane questions, J and Ryu? Do you think any of that stuff is conclusive to hunting scum? If I don't mention a player it's because I don't he's worth the mention, simple as that. It's not like I don't provide any stances on my own already, I don't need you two to fluff up my points against you.

 

[#HBC | J]

You may think it's inane but I don't since it helps me. How am I "fluffing up" your points as you say and extrapolate on which stuff you don't think is conclusive to hunting scum. Thanks.

Let me redirect the question to you a bit:

What's the point in complaining alot?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

This part of your post makes me wanna look into you more. So you do not find Soupa scummy now but you feel he is more of a liability. The way your last paragraph is written, it sounds like you think he is town but he should be killed regardless. I don't like that one-bit. If you think they are town they you should not lynch them. That's my personal opinion on that matter. Why vote someone you think as town? There are special circumstances but even then it's still bleck.

Let me get you to clarify this for me, why do you want Soupa dead? One clear cut answer is good enough.

His posts are distracting to town and don't contribute much if at all when they do. He's asks, "Do I look town?" and other such questions that make me think "what the hell?" His play is bad enough that I can't distant alignment as well, this may match Soup's town play in ways, but the things he has done especially with the questions make me want to get rid of him. This is my opinion is a legit reason to lynch a player early in the game.

Bull**** defense, all of it is AtE, "you **** up meta", and an explanation for the weakest point on Asdioh's wagon. Doesn't acknowledge any of Asdioh's points that he might potentially be going for a weak player or the claims of him not really contributing. Strong dislike of his response.

Elaborate. What about his actions do you dislike? How did he call himself scum? Make it harder for many players? You're being vague here and I dislike it. There is a middle ground between J's over-thoroughness and your generalness.


wtf

"he's probably town but he's dumb town and therefore a good lynch, **** scumhunting for today i'll just sit on him until he dies"

unvote vote: Red Ryu

Look at Dissidia, Bingo, Upick2, any other game I have been in Asdioh, I was a scum pick for him everytime.

I hate his blatant questions to ask town, if he is town and his comments at how he is not stupid but scummy. It's bad enough that many others can't tell alignment clearly and can become a dumb mislynch later in the game.

I'm not saying **** scum hunting, I'm saying get rid of soup now rather than later. You disagree about this point and my opinion on this, but I understand why many disagree.

I don't want someone like Soup in Lylo if he lived that long. His play is bad enough I don;t want him alive.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

What's the point of all these inane questions, J and Ryu? Do you think any of that stuff is conclusive to hunting scum? If I don't mention a player it's because I don't he's worth the mention, simple as that. It's not like I don't provide any stances on my own already, I don't need you two to fluff up my points against you.

I want an answer to learn about you.

That is what I want, I have a hard time reading you this is why I am asking questions about you.

I'm asking about Soup because you find him to be town right away, I am asking these questions to see your reasoning and your thoughts so I can learn if you are scum or town. Soup's play I could see as dumb town or scum, you went for town right away.

For me this isn't a clear cut thing like Ranmaru where I could see him as town in those cases, Soup has made multiple comments that completely destroyed this for me.

This is why I am asking this about more why you think this. You took a stance, I want to know more why you took this stance.

 

[Asdioh]

Glad you agree on Asdioh.

What do you want from me, town picks? You might have noticed that I haven't really said who I think is town. This is because there is no point for me to do so on D1. If someone looks like they're going to be lynched and I think they're town, then yeah I'll defend them, but until then I'll focus on who I think is scum, as you've seen me doing with RR.

Look at Dissidia,

I briefly thought you were scum and then realized you were town after you picked up in activity.

Bingo,

Ongoing.

Upick2,

I don't really recall if I thought you were scum, but I do know you were town and died from a NK, not a lynch.

So no, I don't have anything against you, and I'm not trying to use too much meta, but I'm pretty sure you're scum this time around. You also are continuing to focus on Soup to the exclusion of most else, when I specifically said that was one of the scummiest things you've done. Your other reads... I recall you saying I am essentially null, and then you asked Gheb a couple null things. While I can agree that Soup might make a good lynch, that doesn't mean there are better out there, and that includes yourself.

Also, I think Rajam was looking pretty scummy, though his #477 was a slight improvement.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Your actions and your words speak different things, Red Ruy. If you want to scumhunt, why are you settled on a policy lynch and not really looking that hard into anyone else other than Soup?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

What do you want from me, town picks? You might have noticed that I haven't really said who I think is town. This is because there is no point for me to do so on D1. If someone looks like they're going to be lynched and I think they're town, then yeah I'll defend them, but until then I'll focus on who I think is scum, as you've seen me doing with RR.

No, that's not what I want. I just wasn't sure if I was throwing spitballs. Your posts since making that post have really caused me to lose some of the tentativeness I felt in regards to your play.

 

[Asdioh]

@Ryker: I've recently started watching TTGL, finally. If you and I are Simon/Kamina (you can decide who's who) who is our Yoko? We need one because she's totally hawt. Can it be Gheb, or is he not at that point yet?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Your actions and your words speak different things, Red Ruy. If you want to scumhunt, why are you settled on a policy lynch and not really looking that hard into anyone else other than Soup?

Settling on a lynch, does not mean I'm not scum-hunting. I'm sold Soup should be todays play atm, however, this does not mean I'm not looking into other players. Otherwise my #499 is worthless.

@Psi: Get in here now or I'm gonna bug you on AIM to post here.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

That's not nearly enough to convince me you're scumhunting.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

@Bolded: ....... I mean I don't know what to say. You say you were doing something deliberately scummy that you knew was scummy which is anti-town but then you say you had pro-town motivations to do it but the overall act was scummy? o_O I am so confused and you need to explain that.

Don't rise at that when it's exactly what I wanted.

@Ryker: Kay, I'm gonna take a stance on you firmly now. You are town to me. Tanny's opinion is key because she is a strong town read of mine as well. I'm a bit more comfortable that she thinks you are town as well so bros again, you *******? =3c Also can you tell me your thoughts on Red Ryu. I really dislike his last big post.

Ruy? Scum. I can vote him over WL seeing as I'm not getting anyone to help pushing.

Vote Red Ruy

I won my charity brawl tourny today I went to so I am really in a good mood. ^-^ Also premiere night of the play went pretty swimingly.

Good job, what was the show?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

RR, i see your aboves and i'm inclined to question your actions.

His posts are distracting to town and don't contribute much if at all when they do. He's asks, "Do I look town?" and other such questions that make me think "what the hell?" His play is bad enough that I can't distant alignment as well, this may match Soup's town play in ways, but the things he has done especially with the questions make me want to get rid of him. This is my opinion is a legit reason to lynch a player early in the game.

I don't think i haven't been over this. >.>

So, you cannot question my alignment but you're still willing to lynch me? i understand i am null in your eyes, and my 'play' make be 'distracting' to you, but don't just sit on me and expect people will follow, you are not scumhunting, you are complaining about every little detail you can find, but you do not have resitute evidence as to why we/i are scum, you just keep flapping your mouth in attempt to look like your legitmately trying to find scumpicks but in the end, as i have said, complaining.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

unvote vote: Red Ryu

I like you more.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

give me a stance besides me, and i will consider you to be scumhunting, there has been plenty of information so far to have current reads.

what about J? do you believe his incessant questions to be town?

what about WL? is his stances good, or are they just quick summaries? what parts do you agree with?

what about rajam? he doesn't post alot, but when he does he provides concise information as to what he is thinking, do you agree with his points?

what about tandora? etc.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I like you more.

huh

give me a stance besides me, and i will consider you to be scumhunting, there has been plenty of information so far to have current reads.

There's a difference between coming up with reactionary answers that may or may not be based off someone else's thoughts and responses with no additional input and legitimately scumhunting.

Red Ruy, who do you think is actually scum?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

EBWOP: Answer soup's questions after you answer me. Do not answer him before me.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

@Ryker: I've recently started watching TTGL, finally. If you and I are Simon/Kamina (you can decide who's who) who is our Yoko? We need one because she's totally hawt. Can it be Gheb, or is he not at that point yet?

It would be a hard decision since J and Tandora are both girls.

Anyway, I would totally go in a different "my buddies" flavor to avoid major spoilage. Maybe Earthbound cause that's what I'm playing right now.

And to make this post useful, Ruy, what do you think about JTB/Dork Horse/Gheb?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

give me a stance besides me, and i will consider you to be scumhunting, there has been plenty of information so far to have current reads.

what about J? do you believe his incessant questions to be town?

what about WL? is his stances good, or are they just quick summaries? what parts do you agree with?

what about rajam? he doesn't post alot, but when he does he provides concise information as to what he is thinking, do you agree with his points?

what about tandora? etc.

I like you more.

 

[Asdioh]

Anyway, I would totally go in a different "my buddies" flavor to avoid major spoilage. Maybe Earthbound cause that's what I'm playing right now.

Changed to an older avatar to fit.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

@_@

I just found this...
and I'm going to be V/LA due to AP Tests this week ;-;

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

People who've played with RPSI, how legit is his V/LA? Is he ever going to catch up? Will he be a good player if he does catch up?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

didn't he hydra with roxy in dissidia?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

And was lynched Day 1. I'm not asking you.

 

[Asdioh]

It's legit, as I saw him in my skype chat so I was like "by the way mafia" and he was legitimately surprised it had started, and said he has exams. As for if he'll catch up.. I have no idea, but from what I've seen he's a good enough player if he catches up. ...like Glyph

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

So,... you both have Skype yet don't have DGames chat?