Dexter Mafia ~ ...?

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Right, but then get called out for lurking? that's wonderful.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

tl;dr stop getting frustrated when **** hits the fan. it's part of the game, you're gonna get lynched, realize it is just a game and don't let it get to you personally. i've had games ruined for me because i let things get to me in an otherwise really awesome set-up.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Right, but then get called out for lurking? that's wonderful.

there's a difference between lurking and simply contributing less. when you're second highest in posts, you have room to turn it down.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

fair enough.

 

[JTB]

I'm going to try to keep this short to avoid making huge walls like J that no one likes to read

Biggest town read is Ryker (who would've guessed?!) I'm loving his play and the fact that he's making summaries for idiots like me who get lazy and don't post for a while is a ****ing godsend.

Choice is hella towny too. I don't know anything about him, so I can't go off meta, but his posts have been extremely pro-town to me. 130 and another post that I wrote down wrong in my notes have town vibes.

Rajam isn't doing anything.

I'm not liking T-Block. 135 in particular, twisting his sentence to find a scumtell is just stupid. Plus his 176 was awfully detailed and defensive, all he had to do was say it was a misread, but he explained it fully. Props to Soup and Ryker if they can think of another situation like this. Possibly Asdioh and Gheb too.

I hate trying to figure out Soupamario, but I think his posting restriction is bull****, he's acting mad cocky in another on-going game and him saying he never acts like this is a straight up lie.

I like J. Alot, actually. While reading and writing down my thoughts, I would scroll down a bit and find that J has been thinking the same thing.

I'll believe Asdioh's mason claim for now as there is no reason not to. I don't like his flavor-fishing for Tandora.

I noticed Glyph didn't include J in his entry post about who to policy lynch. I was like, wat. But I'm fine with that post, after D1 of Touhou, I realized that going with a lynch of the most incompetent player is completely viable.

Gheb is eh, especially with his random votes on Ryker and J.

Tandora posting very different than she did in Dissidia, but idgaf as long as shes helping town.

there are too many players to go over and my eyes are falling asleep from staring at my laptop, so ill just stop here and come back in the morning. i'll leave my unorganized notes though and continue to clean them up laters

Spoiler

Rajam is dumb, good idea to wagon him Ryker

Red Ruy asking stupid questions, 114

Rajam still not getting in the game

Town vibes from Ryker/T-block right now

Choice advice dogging, has he given content?

Soup is in this game? fml, and why does he seem fine with the Day ending early?

Definitely like Choice's 130, doubt about him dispelled

Soup asking wl if he looks town, fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Town read on WL

T-block's 135 is grimy, trying to use sematics as a scumslip from Choice

Soup's question was a test of character? bleh, whatev

Loving Ryker even more if he posts summaries every few pages

Hey look, J and I are thinking alike. Wanna buddy?

Soup is 'mocking' scum? And you wonder why people always find you scummy

RR votes Soup on it, then Soup says HERP DERP SARCASM, no me gusta

WL fluffing

Soup gets reads by acting ******** and seeing who responds, lol k

T-block being defensive with his 176, all he needed to say is that he misread it, no reason to go into detail

J putting in alot of effort despite being on a phone, supa props

Loving Choice too, 180 is pretty good and his first question is a clever trap (I hope he knews that when posting it)

I just recognized RR's avatar, ****ing **** <3

OMG tandora! Her posting style is pretty different from what I saw in dissidia, but it doesn't bother me at all

Soup, you said you are satisfied with your reads, what are they if you would like to share them?

Soup's observation of Rajam not posting anymore is pretty stupid though and not necessary at all

lol @ tandora bringing up so much wifom in her 211

Asdioh speculating on a possible Tandora posting restriction/flavor fishing, what does this accomplish? nothing

Glyph entry post that doesn't include him wanting to lynch J? what is this madness!

Good observation by WL on Soup buddying a claimed mason, I didn't catch that at first. But more on the Tandora "PR", I don't see why it's necessary to bring up at all.

Ryker is a champ with his summary.

I disagree with WL's 232 on Glyph, Glyph just posted that we should get rid of one of the three bad players (in his opinion) before having read anything. Given that it's nearly impossible to find scum D1, I agree with him on it.

Willing to lynch Gord if he doesn't change his font color, seriously hell trying to read while using Smash Blue >_>

Gheb's vote on Ryker is without explanation and out of the blue

What was the point of soups 276 and 279?

299 WHY SOUP WHY

again with the blatant sarcasm that isnt blatant 308

321 tblock ?

 

[Choice]

ok, i'm not fully caught up just yet and have some guests over so i prolly shouldnt stay on here for much longer.

thanks to tandora and gheb for answering my questions. i like that no one has said this is their first game or something. in the 2 online games i've played there were a handful of those people and it was just mad annoying reading them properly caz they'd be like "oh i'm nub ^.^"

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Ryker, I ask you this:

Why am I being limited to one honest answer? In the future, if I ask questions that help catch scum, then you should have no problems answering.

And you should be looking into my intentions behind all my questions, as with the rest of town.

I decide what I think helps catch scum. I wanted to know what you wanted to know as I thought it would be an interesting insight into what you're thinking. I think it was a bust.

You are limited to one question with a guaranteed honest answer because I do not have faith in most people. I will lie, cheat, and steal to make you do what I want. I will gambit, I will fakeclaim, I will fakecounter. I will do this as town. I will do this as scum. I wanted to see what you would use your one question on. I wanted to see what was important to you, but you didn't ask anything that does much.

What did you get from this answer?

The second line of your post is bull****. Why did you post it?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Considering that the majority of Soup's posts are going to be confusing and then passed off as "blatant sarcasm" the whole game, I would be perfectly content with lynching him toDay and saving us all the headache.

This could be said without looking so scummy. Please stop doing that.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

i'll nameclaim while i'm at it too.

I'm Angel Batista, best friend of Dexter Morgan. and apparently a good detective too.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Rereading this made no sense to me. Are you saying your confirmed mason buddy is scum if Soup is innocent?

Yes I did, but I got no reaction from anyone aside from this. It was a busted attempt to generate something.

What's up with the Gheborah nickname?

Questions like your last one on that post make me leery. I don't think I've ever seen someone ask that who wasn't anti-town.

I like to imagine that they're Little Ghebby Cakes.

Why's that? It's an over dramatic way of asking J what his read is on me. J and I have played like bros in every game RG and on. I was scum in F&I, but town in the other two.

When you said the other person in your mason was Astor, I read it as the person other than Ryker and me. Thus, I thought it's a three person mason and figured it was Rita, Cody, and Astor.

I know nothing about the flavor aside from who Dexter is. Will you answer flavor questions for me?

So, Ryker has both claimed to be Dexter and to not be Dexter? Which is the truth? I find it unlikely Astor and Dexter are masons unless something really crazy happened in Seasons 4 and 5 (which I haven't seen, so minimum spoilers please.)

I would not read to far into that Dexter claim. Hell, I wouldn't read to far into that Astor claim.

I'd like to take off my Mafia hat for a minute and respond to these two quotes as Chisa and not as Tandora.

I think Soup has shown a great deal of disrespect to both Chibo and the players in this game. Chibo has gone through a lot of effort to make this game flavorable and took an extra step to ensure players were still interested in the game before starting instead of just assuming "Hey, he signed up, he must be interested."

Not only is Soup the second person to request a replacement in less than 24 real hours of the game starting, he also just dropped his role's character name. I think this is unfair to whoever may replace him if he does actually drop out. If you are leaving the game, it really was not fair of you to do that since you are nowhere near lynching and you have no fear of your slot dying before a replacement can be called in.

If you truly are town, then you hurt your faction by being unwilling and unable to honor your commitment to this game and by outing your character in such a fashion.

In his defense, I /outed Dexter and received that confirmation of interest PM and didn't respond to it, but was here anyway.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

my posting restriction was to act cocky and have dry humor.

i guess i can't replace out now, can i?

Bull****. Please don't continue with this.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Yay, someone who knows the flavor and isn't just looking up a character index every time someone claims.

They've claimed that they're both one or the other but they're hiding which one to **** with the scum. Now the scum (and I guess the doc) have to guess which one is Dexter and hope they get it right. Weird, dumb gambit but if it pays off, it works.

You should know better than to delve into my Day 1 gambles.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I don't really want to delve into it, but yeah, pretty much WL. Not going to direct the doc, but if they seriously want to choose between the two of us later on, go for Ryker, not me ^^

This is why I'm glad you and me are in this **** together. Heh heh heh.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

tl;dr stop getting frustrated when **** hits the fan. it's part of the game, you're gonna get lynched, realize it is just a game and don't let it get to you personally. i've had games ruined for me because i let things get to me in an otherwise really awesome set-up.

I take pride in being one of those things. Not for being an ***, just for being right.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

ok, i'm not fully caught up just yet and have some guests over so i prolly shouldnt stay on here for much longer.

thanks to tandora and gheb for answering my questions. i like that no one has said this is their first game or something. in the 2 online games i've played there were a handful of those people and it was just mad annoying reading them properly caz they'd be like "oh i'm nub ^.^"

Some people will do that anyway, and it's hella annoying. My advice, you're probably lynching them for a reason. Make sure it's a legit reason and you aren't joining a easy mislynch, then show no mercy.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Lynch Gheb if it reaches Day 4 and he is alive.

Gheb, if you and I are aligned then Day 4 should be more than enough time to win the game.

 

[Choice]

@Wash: can you please include some means of being linked to the posts you quote? its hard for me to know who you're referencing or what post you're referencing if you don't like your #327 seems like a legit post, but i would like to be able to check the quotations all the same. maybe i'm just being nitpicky, but i figure as posts keep increasing being able to navigate through someone's quotations becomes more and more important.

@J:thanks for answering my questions. also, what does w.r.t stand for?

@soupamario:
when did you call me out for distancing? and by distancing, i'm guessing you're implying that i've backed off of any statements that i've made, which i havent.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12665342&postcount=276

This is where i state that i think you could be scumbros, because i didn't like the answer choice gave me when i called him out for distancing.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12665635&postcount=303

this is where i pointed out the distancing.

ok i just read that post. i feel like that is not a case at all, but if it bothers you still i can assure you that i had no intentions to ignore wash or anything. i dunno what else i can say or do past that.

also, can you please not put any posts inside of your quotes from other people, caz that makes it impossible to quote you. thanks.

@J again: omg, please use preview post! fail... #361 hurts so terrible to read.

btw, i'm getting a town leaning read on Tandora. her first post was interesting and then after that it all went away. either she has something she wanted to communicate to dexter fans (which is not a category i fall under, not caz i dont like the show but caz i never watched it) or she has some sort of post restriction deal goin on. all in all, i feel like it'd be super obvious if she had to do so and was scum. besides that, her posts are fine. i think skimming legitimately is anti-town, so i have no issue with people being called out on that (in response to having read dark horse's post).

dark horse:

I am always so scummy. I'm either a pr or i get manipulated.

what's this supposed to mean. more importantly, what's the first sentence mean. the getting pr deal i dont think people should talk about and manipulated just sounds like you gotta get better =p

just like write a small blurb answering:
how many games you've played?
where you from? (knowing people's timezones is important i think)
what are a few salient facts about yourself? =)

can you answer my questions btw?

also, in case anyone wanted to have all the answers handy, i've been keeping a directory handy with everyone's responses. i'll prolly put it up just caz once everyone has answered.

@washed again:

Posts that make me hate Choice:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12663649&postcount=130
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12663999&postcount=189 (If we've found our lynch for today and everyone's posted, why stall it out?)
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12664482&postcount=243 (pointless buddying)

1st one: what to say bout the first post. its just how i feel
2nd one:i guess i figure the day should be stalled out, at the least at the very start, since its the only time that everyone has an opportunity to get reads and information on people.
3rd one: yea i guess that post was pointless, but in no way was i intending to buddy gheb.

also, i'd like to say that i agree with what you said about asdioh not having done much since his claim, but for the time being i honestly do believe them. maybe its just that i get a pretty solid pro-town vibe from ryker, and maybe that is just a facade in itself. i'm definitely not dismissing them as confirmed anything, but yea i would like to hear more from asdioh as well. in my head honestly it's been almost as if they're hydra'd which is bad caz they should function separately as well.

still on page 10. almost there!

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Day 1 should not be stalled out. It should be something that we dive into like Olympic Synchronized Swimming. It's an art, it's not to be rushed, but it's meant to move quickly and remain beautiful.

 

[Choice]

your opinion ryker, not mine. i feel like in such a large game several things HAVE to be happening day 1 anyways. otherwise i'd envision too many coasters/inactives as a result.

anyways:

you took alot of effort to do that, WL.

perhaps i will get off my *** and reply to that.

=o

no wait, i will one-up and give you my reads on all that in a pretty collapse post, after i pee.

=)

changed my mind, i'm really lazy and i will get to it later, promise something from it though.

T-T

WL, can you give some time to respond before you completely consider me scum?

i'm trying to conver up motivation to play because i don't want to replace out and whatnot.

???

i'll nameclaim while i'm at it too.

I'm Angel Batista, best friend of Dexter Morgan. and apparently a good detective too.

o.o

ok seriously i dunno if its because its 4 am almost, or because i was mad urked and now there is a claim before me, but i just don't know what to make of all this. character sounds like they should be in the game, though also probably someone important judging by their relation to the main character. anywho, i am in no way dismissing your posts caz of some post restriction to be cocky and bad humor. lazy =/= cocky, and you're openly admitting to that one.

i'll respond to the red ryu stuff tomorrow.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Choice, go ahead and assume that Chibo picked out characters to not use in the game so he could give them to scum as safeclaims specifically so character claims don't work. Don't go down the flavor road, it's a dark doorway to definite devastation.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Gonna post something after dinner.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Ryker, what did you hope to gan with saying that your mason partner's scum if soup inno?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

JTB, you seem to be under the impression that my votes on Ryker and J are random. That's far from true.

Too many people getting bothered by Soup. Lynching him because you lose patience will not be particularly helpful ... if you only look at him as dumb, dead weight and fail to see his genuine attempts to provide genuine content you're playing a short-sighted game. So far he's probably the only one who has questioned the otherwise undisputed town read on Choice. That shows that he's not a tool like I feel a lot of players are and that he's willing to go out on a limb and voice stuff others wouldn't dare to.

Request Votecount

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I'm more bothered by Red Ryu's constant fluff - that's totally not how he plays as town. J can also die with his walls of non-content. People are blinded by the size of his posts so easily.

 

[Tandora]

Tan, do you have comments on any other players? For example, Red Ryu, who I've already expressed interest in pressuring?

When I was making my list, I had RR as town. And I thought, "why do I have him as town? I have no effing idea." I think it's because he was town in Dissidia and I have a terrible tendency to keep people as the same faction as the last game I played them in.

I'm concerned with Rocket's no posts at this time. Hopefully, he's just unaware the game has started.

Rajam's response to his early wagon has been pretty null. It grew fast and he seemed to barely care.

T-block seems kinda like that guy who is "helpful" in that he gives good advice without actually contributing all that much.

..I guess, but it seems to me like it would be hard for a mod to decide "this post wasn't cocky or with dry humor, he needs to be punished!" >_>

QFT^

@Tan: your name is Chisa? What a cool name.

Thanks.

Choice, go ahead and assume that Chibo picked out characters to not use in the game so he could give them to scum as safeclaims specifically so character claims don't work. Don't go down the flavor road, it's a dark doorway to definite devastation.

This is also true. It's a popular trend on SWF to include "X is not in this game and you're the only person who knows this."

However, Soup's description of Angel is pretty dead on. So either he knows the show or he took the time as scum to dig up information as Angel and then made a fake request to leave the game and used that information to manipulate town into believing his claim. Which would just be a **** move to do.

And yes, Angel is a boy's name.

 

[CT Chia]

Vote Count 1-6

The deadline has been set for 9:00pm EST on May 12th

With 16 players alive it takes 9 to lynch!

Tandora (0) -
Glyph (0) -
JTB (0) -
Rajam (0) -
vVv Choice (0) -
WashedLaundry (1) - Ryker,
Ryker (0) -
Gordito (0) -
RocketPSIence (0) -
Red Ryu (1) - Asdioh,
Gheb_01 (0) -
Soupamario (4) - Red Ryu, vVv Choice, J, WashedLaundry,
T-block (1) - Rajam,
Dark Horse (0) -
Asdioh (0) -
J (2) - Gheb_01, Soupamario,

No Lynch (0) -

Not Voting (7) - Tandora, Glyph, Gordito, RocketPSIence, Dark Horse, JTB, T-block,

 

[Asdioh]

Too many people getting bothered by Soup. Lynching him because you lose patience will not be particularly helpful ... if you only look at him as dumb, dead weight and fail to see his genuine attempts to provide genuine content you're playing a short-sighted game. So far he's probably the only one who has questioned the otherwise undisputed town read on Choice. That shows that he's not a tool like I feel a lot of players are and that he's willing to go out on a limb and voice stuff others wouldn't dare to.

Request Votecount

I'm more bothered by Red Ryu's constant fluff - that's totally not how he plays as town. J can also die with his walls of non-content. People are blinded by the size of his posts so easily.

See? Gheb said it so it must be true.

Soupamario (4) - Red Ryu, vVv Choice, J, WashedLaundry,


Red Ryu (1) - Asdioh,


Not Voting (7) - Tandora, Glyph, Gordito, RocketPSIence, Dark Horse, JTB, T-block,

gogogo

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'll make it simple - Glyph and RR are not the same faction, by that introductry post by glyph when he calls out RR for no reason, a scum member would not do that, or perhaps wouldn't even post something like that.

either we lynch one, or the other.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

That's the kind of conclusion that makes you look stupid, Soup.

Why can't they be of the same faction? Early distancing is an option and so is simply doing it for the sake of provoking a reaction - a "tactic" you seem to make use of yourself. Why can't others do the same?

And saying "we'll lynch one or the other" based on *that* is nonsense.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

but also the reaction made, i know they can early distance, but it also is how RR reacted to it.

 

[Tandora]

I'll make it simple - Glyph and RR are not the same faction, by that introductry post by glyph when he calls out RR for no reason, a scum member would not do that, or perhaps wouldn't even post something like that.

either we lynch one, or the other.

No, that just proves it's unlikely they are both scum. They very well could both be town.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Well I do think there's a good chance Ryu is scum. The logic you provided is just garbage.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

It's not a jackpot scum read at all, in fact, if i may, i'll present a further case on RR.

I've re-read and RR has only 19 posts, most of it is just filler or being perhaps defensive or belligerent about seeing things, he FoS'es Asdioh for claiming mason early, he reacts negatively on instant to things that look scummy but may have reason, and above all, he's inactive.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

That being said, i'm alright with a vote going to RR, but i still hold my ground stating i do not think glyph and rr are same faction, stupid as it is, i don't mind being wrong.

unvote vote: Red Ryu

besides, needs more content.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Still not sold on the RR=scum thing since it's kind of a meta tell and ****all if I can read meta on this site for anyone but Ryker and Sprite yet.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Day 1 should not be stalled out. It should be something that we dive into like Olympic Synchronized Swimming. It's an art, it's not to be rushed, but it's meant to move quickly and remain beautiful.

I feel like this applies to all days as games can be thoroughly ruined by people too afraid to lynch ahead of deadline. No information is better than host-confirmed information. D1 is probably just the most obvious example of this because it sets the pace for the rest of the game.

 

[Rajam]

sorry guys, I'm behind in the game again ._. I'll try to catch up today as much as possible.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12664314&postcount=227

"Originally Posted by Soupamario
@choice you don't have many interactions with wl, why's that? Do you feel his play is relevant?
i honestly havent taken much note of his play other than the fact that he appears to me like a follower of ryker, which i stated before. i think i wrote something towards him, though maybe he missed it now that i think about it. i'll look into his posts again, though to my recollection there hasnt been much from him. all short one line posts (not that there is anything wrong with that.)"

I agree with Choice here on the underlined statement. When a guy has been posting a lot, barely giving anything in terms of connections, there's something wrong. So far on WL I have slight disconnections with Choice based on #65 and Tandora based on #224, but nothing else. I don't like that

unvote
vote: WashedLaundry

So far my only strong town read is Choice. Other town reads, although not as strong, are Soupamario, Ryker and Asdioh.

Tandora's #199 was a big bunch of nothing. Why the lack of a (clear) scum pick?

I did a quick check on RocketPSIence and iirc he hasn't posted anything

@mod: Request prod on RocketPSIence

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I'll also bump some issues I didn't see a response:

#152:

"Soup saying "if Ryker can make this day end by the end of the night" plus "Am I town for asking people questions" doesn't look good to me. If it were anyone besides Soup posting that I probably would have FoSed -_-"

Soupamario didn't say anything about this

#172:

"i think the unvote was weird too.

@J: did you seriously think soupamario's play so far was scummy? i thought you hadn't been able to catch up?"

iirc J evaded this, not giving a clear response on why he voted Soupa in first place. Also the unvote immediatly in the next post... really? The only thing J said of Soupa was his #182 in response to Soupa's #181, but that was after all the vote issue

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

@Wash: can you please include some means of being linked to the posts you quote? its hard for me to know who you're referencing or what post you're referencing if you don't like your #327 seems like a legit post, but i would like to be able to check the quotations all the same. maybe i'm just being nitpicky, but i figure as posts keep increasing being able to navigate through someone's quotations becomes more and more important.

Most are generalized into reasons why I think someone's town or scum. For ones that don't, they often include explanations on why I'm bringing up those posts.

@J:thanks for answering my questions. also, what does w.r.t stand for?

with response to

btw, i'm getting a town leaning read on Tandora.

As do I.

@washed again:

1st one: what to say bout the first post. its just how i feel
2nd one:i guess i figure the day should be stalled out, at the least at the very start, since its the only time that everyone has an opportunity to get reads and information on people.
3rd one: yea i guess that post was pointless, but in no way was i intending to buddy gheb.

also, i'd like to say that i agree with what you said about asdioh not having done much since his claim, but for the time being i honestly do believe them. maybe its just that i get a pretty solid pro-town vibe from ryker, and maybe that is just a facade in itself. i'm definitely not dismissing them as confirmed anything, but yea i would like to hear more from asdioh as well. in my head honestly it's been almost as if they're hydra'd which is bad caz they should function separately as well.

still on page 10. almost there!

Two of those are just gameplay differences between you and I. I tend to play like a calmer version of Ryker, as I believe a lot of what Ryker believes but I don't act nearly as rashly as he does.

Glad you agree on Asdioh.

@Gheb: Do you mistrust Choice?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I agree with Choice here on the underlined statement. When a guy has been posting a lot, barely giving anything in terms of connections, there's something wrong. So far on WL I have slight disconnections with Choice based on #65 and Tandora based on #224, but nothing else. I don't like that

unvote
vote: WashedLaundry

What page were you on when you typed this?

 

[Rajam]

What page were you on when you typed this?

Post 227 (page 6, 40ppp)