DDD Social: we livin' in smash 4

[pidgezero_one]

Are there things/places you guys can't do/go to because you associate them with bad memories?

Examples aren't necessary at all. Just collecting data.

i met my boyfriend at a brawl tournament and after he left me i considered quitting and could no longer play any of my favourite video games that we had played together

but we got back together so it's not an issue anymore

 

[Exdeath]

Are there things/places you guys can't do/go to because you associate them with bad memories?

Examples aren't necessary at all. Just collecting data.

More so the other way around.

 

[4GOD (JJV)]

My god, I agree, please Fsmash ICs lol
4GOD is the best at the MU imo

Man has the will of steel to make the magic happen

Haha, alrighty man! Thanks dude! You're so cool <3

And, not to mention, berry berry goodt with ICs

 

[Bobwithlobsters]

How does the ice climbers matchup go? I haven't had the blessing of playing it at a high level and so have no idea what makes it so difficult. How does one play that matchup and what should I be watching out for as ddd?

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

The MU is difficult because Dedede has no reliable way of getting inside of ICs and separating them that isn't extremely telegraphed or risky.

Like Blizzard Wall is generally an overrated tactic vs most characters but its's pretty useful for keeping Dedede out. We CAN beat it with D/F Smash but time it wrong and well...yeah.

Be super wary of Ice Block frame traps, especially when you land. Don't allow yourself to be caught up by Nana doing an Ice Block just to get grabbed by Popo.

In this MU, you have to take a lot more risks than you may be accustomed to doing. Grabbing ICs works pretty well if you can land it. F-Throw is awesome in this MU because it's very quick and gets out IC out of there very easily. We **** solo ICs.

Swallow is also useful but if you Swallow Nana it can get you punished. It's a move you'll want to use sparingly and only when you're sure you'll get something from it.

Look out for Up-Air as well. Naturally, people want to try to stay in the air for approaches but Dedede's air speed is ****. So it's not that effective. Especially when ICs broken *** Up-Air. Our Dair CAN separate them, but its telegraphed. You have to be creative when you use that move.

You just have to constantly mix up your approaches until you find opening. You can't stay on platforms the whole match, and you don't want to stay ground for long period of time either. You have to stay on your toes. I also just take small punishes with F-Tilt here and there. You can hit Nana with it, fairly easily. Eventually, when Nana is at a significantly higher percent that Popo, you can take advantage of that.

PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU HIT NANA WITH. TRACK HER PERCENT MENTALLY IF YOU CAN.

It's a really frustrating and draining MU.

 

[Zekeishere]

Hey everyone. I'm MMing Jtails and Ikon for $100 each at Apex. With MK, ICs, Olimar, And Falco banned. Haha you all should come check it out and offer moral support.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

You're so gonna win.

If you want I'll be in your corner cheering for you. I'll be at APEX again, myself.

 

[Exdeath]

Hey everyone. I'm MMing Jtails and Ikon for $100 each at Apex. With MK, ICs, Olimar, And Falco banned. Haha you all should come check it out and offer moral support.

So basically it's vs. and ?

 

[ぱみゅ]

http://youtu.be/xyZkAFMllHE?t=2m15s
Does anybody know what was going on there?

 

[Zekeishere]

So basically it's vs. and ?

I like diddy though.

And Pikachu isn't that bad either.

 

[DewDaDash]

zeke, 20$ mm at apex?

 

[Exdeath]

http://youtu.be/xyZkAFMllHE?t=2m15s
Does anybody know what was going on there?

It looks like a Brawl how-to for low level players. I believe that section was explaining DI, stale moves, and possibly tumble state.

I like diddy though.

And Pikachu isn't that bad either.

I was predicting the characters that they would use.

 

[ぱみゅ]

It looks like a Brawl how-to for low level players. I believe that section was explaining DI, stale moves, and possibly tumble state.

Possibily, I thought there could be something more involved though, as it looks like Mario and Fox were DI'ing...

What you said also makes sense, as ワンパターン literally says "One Pattern"...

 

[Xubble]

I'm confused by Mario and Fox hardly getting (proportional) knockback from Ike's fsmash. 70% and only going about 3/4 length across FD?

Was fsmash completely staled? Is there some magic sourspot I don't know of?

Also, I've been playing the beta for PlayStation All-Stars. Parappa is very fun. But ****ing Kratos is ****ing everywhere. Like, he builds up his supers so fast with such little effort. And EVERYONE plays him. If there's one in a FFA, that's tolerable. But I almost always see two per match.

Nevertheless, outside the lag and Kratos BS, it's a really fun game.

 

[White91]

Wario ddd is only a +1 right? Lol

 

[1PokeMastr]

Depending on the stage. It can vary from a +3 to a +1.
On FD or Sv it should be a +2/3 and on BF it'd be a +1.

The more platforms Wario has around him, the easier time he has running away.
But, even then.. The Mu should be incredibly difficult for Wario since he has trouble safely spacing on D3's shield because of the Grab range, U-Tilt and Bair ( For cross ups or if D3 approaches for some reason ).

 

[White91]

Maybe I should just not approach anymore then. Cause when I play against croi's wario he's always flyin around and junk

 

[White91]

Also on brinstar and frigate its in his favor ill wager

 

[ぱみゅ]

The matchup can be in Wario's favor if you have more variated stages.
It is a big pain for us in Norfair, Brinstar and RC (and other even more uncommon stages), but it is a pain ofr him in almost every regular starter stage.

 

[Xubble]

lol @ norfair

I'd rather have Norfair than Brinstar though. I like the size and less-****ty terrain.

 

[Bobwithlobsters]

The matchup can be in Wario's favor if you have more variated stages.
It is a big pain for us in Norfair, Brinstar and RC (and other even more uncommon stages), but it is a pain ofr him in almost every regular starter stage.

But on the opposit side we love silly stages because walk offs and walls.

On a different note, I'm planning on going to apex this year but my scene is super dead in minnesota and was wondering if anyone had advice on how to get some practice in this situation.

 

[ぱみゅ]

If we take the only stages with walkoffs are Delfino, Siege, Distant Planet and YI:M, a good Wario would always ban YI:M (if he does not, he may have a plan), would never be grabbed towards the walkoff on Planet nor Siege, but Delfino has one or two transformations that may be pretty bad for him.

 

[1PokeMastr]

Actually..
Delfino has...
3-4 Walk off transformations.
But yeah, you shouldn't be approach Wario much unless you want to pressure him.
If he does approach you, you can always time an instant pivot grab to **** his approach.

 

[White91]

Its not that easy....
Also if you take them to dalfino on the walk off transitions they just jump around a lot more, and try not to get grabbed extra carefully

 

[ぱみゅ]

@Pokemastr: yeah, but most of them has a pit or many platforms so Wario is pretty safe.
I'm pretty sure the only problematic transformation for him is the one of the Stairs.

 

[Bobwithlobsters]

Having the stage force the wario to play on platforms allows you a lot more options though. It is so nice to have the stage limit options for you. Delfino has always been my favorite stage as ddd for that reason. except vs mk because mk...

 

[1PokeMastr]

Oh. I wasn't talking about why Delfino would be good for us. I was only stating how many it had.
Sorry for not being clear.

 

[ぱみゅ]

I honestly think Delfino is one of the stages that helps Wario camp, but is not very good for him. Matchup is probably +1 for DDD there (very winnable for Wario) because many platforms are too low and many transformations force him to go grounded.

 

[1PokeMastr]

White! I think this video will help you out a bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT9ivf2W5uc&feature=youtu.be

Croi versus Coney.

 

[White91]

Yeah, that's the wario I always play against lol we go like 50 50

 

[1PokeMastr]

Now you get to see how to beat him.

I should have said..
"Beating Croi 101; Coney style".

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

So who was interested in being on the D3 panel again for the MU chart ver 3.

Right now, its just me and Big D confirmed.

 

[| Big D |]

I don't know man those are some pretty high expectations.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

LMFAO.

Yo.

I'm proud to say I was not in the BBR during the terrible lapse of judgement that went into configuring that list.

 

[White91]

I'm way too pessimistic about dedede to be making any matchups

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

So am I and the Panel Leader bro.

 

[SoulPech]

i met my boyfriend at a brawl tournament and after he left me i considered quitting and could no longer play any of my favourite video games that we had played together

but we got back together so it's not an issue anymore

Must be a woman thing. If I broke up with a lady friend and if I wasn't looking for another one, I would double the video gaming on my favorite games.

 

[Xubble]

I was interested! :3

 

[C.J.]

Choose me, Tech!

 

[pidgezero_one]

Must be a woman thing. If I broke up with a lady friend and if I wasn't looking for another one, I would double the video gaming on my favorite games.

Any game I hadn't played with him before was fine. There were only a couple of my faves I couldn't touch anymore.

****, I even considered dropping my Brawl main. (Probably should have done that anyway.)