Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
No because we're not Ice Climbers. The opposing King Dedede can recover fairly after he's been chaingrabbed and then forward throwed.
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DDD Social: we livin' in smash 4
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stingers
Smash Obsessed
But with infinites, 1 grab = 1 stock
and it's so fun :D
and it's so fun :D
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
and then grabed on his ending lag for his up b.
CO18
Smash Hero
lol id play nothing but d3 dittos if i could. ugh I wish I had time to play more right now, getting mad rusty.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
co18 start playing more. we're gonna need u in crews at pound 4 
Someone's gonna get ***** on his home turf...
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
Do you know what a ledge is? Should I look up that very strong vocabulary word for you?
Or better yet, King Dedede doesn't need his upB to recover after he's been forward throwed, just puff back to the LEDGE. Oh crap, here we go again with that complex word.
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
Why forward throw? Down throw em. Then bair spam em. Then get ready for the up b and grab once he lands.
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
Holy crap, you're in a world where only you can do whatever you want with success in it and not thinking about with the opponent can do.
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
I love you too Gates, no homo.
Atomsk_92
Smash Hero
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If it's really just you two telling him off the ddd boards are too kind. The dude is a ****ing idiot.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
why does crashic have a wolf avatar too
is that like a ddd boards fad
is that like a ddd boards fad
9Kplus1
Smash Master
Can I come back to the DDD boards?
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
Yes, because I go to so many tournaments and have as much experience as you.
Seriously Beef, why are you forward throwing D3? Downthrow to down tilt.
Seriously Beef, why are you forward throwing D3? Downthrow to down tilt.
Atomsk_92
Smash Hero
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Stop acting like you do then.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
dtilt is better saved for a killing move then for damage in my experience, utilts are getting harder to land every day and bairs are usually stale. dtilt usually does the job well, especially in d3 dittos where you have a guaranteed setup into it i find it's better to save it.
but i'm not a d3 main, just a secondary (though I did win a tourney with d3 last month :D /gloat) so I could be wrong
but i'm not a d3 main, just a secondary (though I did win a tourney with d3 last month :D /gloat) so I could be wrong
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
And I do this by repeating stuff that Seibrik says?????
And there still is no reason to forward throw DDD after a chain grab when you can downtilt him.
Thankfully, the chain grab helps in killing, so if you plan to kill off of it, it doesn't really matter. You down throw-pummel, and do for at the least 2 times and you've just unstalled your downtilt by at least 4 moves, and I'd be surprised if I ever saw a D3s downtilt that stale xD
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
Because I want to save down tilt for the kill. But then again, I would be doing a bunch of chaingrabs/pummels so it would probably be fresh by then. I guess I could do a down tilt once, only early in percents.
I'll just be switching off between both, forgot about that, but I'm sure that combo would pop up in my head during gameplay, thanks.
If we didn't kill the opposing King Dedede, the percent difference between the down tilt combo and a forward throw isn't too much.
A previously used down throw = 5-6%ish? + Down Tilt 10%
Compared to a 12% forward throw. It's meh. I'll do both options during gameplay.
AtotheZ
Smash Lord
Dtilt puts them in a favorable recovery position, don't think so stale, you can do many things after dthrow that would work since they are expecting dtilt. fthrow can apply more damage depending on how stale dtilt/dthrow is too IIRC.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
yeah but crash if you're getting as many cgs as you assume your getting then your dtilt will stale anyway just from continual use lol. so if you dtilt every time then . if you dtilt only at low %s that's a good idea.
. if you dtilt only at low %s that's a good idea.
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
assuming they are all at maximum stale moves (which is impossible since you are using 3 moves, down throw, pummel, and forward throw
pummel- 1
down throw- 4
down tilt- 5-6
at 100 percent stale (impossible, they are going to do 10-11 damage. That's 2 less than a fresh forward throw. Since this situation will never happen, down throw to down tilt will always do more damage.
Does he really? I've never tried to pummel release a D3, only the space animals.
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
He's pretty much following up what I mean. So in conclusion, we can do chaingrabs, then a down tilt only at low percents, maybe 0-50%, then save it for the kill at around 160%. We can do other options while in the process of the 50-160 range like forward throwing, grab releasing [hoping you'll get a pummel break, it's by controller input of both players], a last down throw to forward tilt, or down throw to an aerial followup [if you can mindgame them into it].yeah but crash if you're getting as many cgs as you assume your getting then your dtilt will stale anyway just from continual use lol. so if you dtilt every time then
Settled.
AtotheZ
Smash Lord
I'm guessing that's pointed at me... I can't think at all right now
Dekar173
Justice Man
D3 boards hate each other, holy smokes!
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
That's a good argument, but it's not solid. You left out one thing. Killing.
We have to add killing into this situation, by saving a single move. Down tilt kills at earlier percents than forward throw, assuming both are fresh.
GUYS STOP TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH OF AN IDIOT CRASHIC IS.
THE MAGIC IS BACK BAYBEE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNjZpWTtuWg
THE MAGIC IS BACK BAYBEE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNjZpWTtuWg
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
Nah, this comes and goes. If you read our boards, you'd see if go off and on. We don't really have much D3 to talk about, so this happens at times, with the attack puppets being: CRASHiC, Serin, Celebi, Alby, and a times other random bistandards.
I'd guess I'd need more D3 doubles to get an accurate picture of this, watched or played with the infintie banned. (I've never seen any infinie banned D3 double) It would all come down to how it was best played. Like, if people camped the edges and platforms, then yeah, but if it went the way of one of Seibrik's and Co18's ditto of run up, spot dodge, grab, then you would get plenty of forward throws and pummels to keep it fresh. Just 3 grabs/pummels brings it back to a kill move, and at higher percents you can do two pummels per grab.
Anyone know the perfect approach to this matchup? Co18, where you at?
God **** fogo is huge./this is known.
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
Celebi's just a troll, Serin's 14, and .Zip just loves bustin Alby's balls but I don't know why other people join in some time. Its like they see two people smackin each others ***** so they jump in and smack their ***** too. Seing .Zip and Puma bust Alby's balls I'm fine with, but the others start and its just creepy.
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
Seibrik, you still doin this?
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=251412
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=251412
AtotheZ
Smash Lord
Gates, your avatar seems slightly different.
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
Ah yes.... and then I'm left out of the question as a lone journeyman who is just helping those in need. I'm keeping it that way.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
yo c beef how do you beat that **** chocobo race in ffx. getting below 0 seconds is ****ing impossible.