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Mii Swordfighter seems to be able to fit Erdrick’s proportions well as a medium size fighter than the Links.
I'm personally hoping for another character, but I think it's much more likely that will just get our first gameplay of Joker.
Thing is, development on each new fighter seems to be so complex and require so much scheduling that it's very difficult to adapt to changes in design or characteristics on the fly. Details on Roy surely changed further back than just a couple months before FE6's delay, but the Melee team still wasn't able to take those changes into account. This is a logistical issue we're considering here, a time and workload issue, and so no amount of working closely with the team of another game would solve that if there simply isn't the spare time or manpower available.
Well, it seems like the actual character model isn't as important to reference as the general build, hurtboxes, and very basic animations are. Adding a shield to the model wouldn't be too much of a hassle since it's just a piece of equipment that moves when the bearer's arm does. And Young Link in particular wouldn't be a good reference point anyway due to other reasons. Why would they create a character who is an adult and has an adult build--albeit one with potentially super-deformed traits--by referencing the model of a character with a child's build and proportions?
Forgot to respond to this earlier.
Well with Roy they were also putting him as a clone, so they already were working on a smaller time frame and inside more constraints. And again while DLC is probably planned out during development all they have to do is say "and one slot for a new FE character from Three Houses" and then when they start on them they can go to IS and get everything they need. I'm not saying its a guarantee or even likely but its definitely in the realm of possibilities, especially if Nintendo had more say in the DLC this time.
I honestly don't think it matters at this point. Aside from there being one less slot for DLC, it sounds like all of this has been close to being finalized a while before the November Direct. Either they told Sakurai to wait for Gen 8 designs or they didn't.
I could see Porky borrowing some moves from his Subspace Emissary boss fight just like how Ridley borrowed some of his moves from his Subspace Emissary boss fight.
Considering what we've discussed recently about Sakurai seemingly avoiding characters who haven't been finalized...I think we may have a shot for this entire wave. It'd make more sense to happen sooner than later, to show off the Gen 7 character before Gen 8 talk gets going, but we know full well it's not so simple.
The "us versus them" mentality has been known to be sparked by things that are considerably more inane than video game roster speculation...
2.0 wasn't exactly a big patch, so I hope 3.0 being announced in a Direct means something. At least we know when we're getting Joker, and the Switch is finally getting Mario Maker.
It was okay... but other than FE Three Houses there was nothing I was really excited for. For Smash. We have Ver. 3.0 and our first look at Joker. But, with the way they’re treating this though, and going out to state that details are coming later.
JRPGs are huge sellers on the Switch, so of course they'd want to push the OG JRPG.
I wouldn't read too much into it. Dragon Quest games have been notable titles in Nintendo Directs for quite some time. Since Erdrick wasn't revealed in this Direct (which is a little weird, because it would've been the perfect place to do so), I'd assume it's just a coincidence. Keep in mind that these games were being developed long before Ultimate's DLC even began.
Yeah, this Direct was just the right time to talk about the two games. It has no bearing on whatever plans there are for Ultimate, especially since both are localized titles that are already out in Japan. DQXI is even out in English on the PS4 already!
I could see that happening, but I'd prefer they space out the reveals so we can speculate longer. Might be quite a bit before we'll be able to do that again.
I think if there are two reveals, one of them would just be a showcase of Joker's moveset, rather than letting us know who DLC fighter 3 is.
This is kinda the way I see things going:
Given that theory, it would essentially mean that "Brave" is quadrupedal, which means that it would have to be Lycanroc.
Potentially? I'm not sure we'll get another standard Direct between now and E3, but if we do, I could see that scenario happening.
Wait a minute, just how many people would actually be angry if any Smash announcements happened prior to E3 instead of during it? Hardly anyone seemed to mind in 2015 when the summer update was laid out the day before E3 got going. And from a marketing standpoint, wouldn't it make more sense to leave E3 proper open for other games to have the spotlight? Smash is so momentous that its very existence monopolizes any presentation where it drops significant news (which may be why they kept it lower key a few days ago), so wouldn't the smarter move be to ensure it doesn't steal the show at E3 so that other, upcoming games like Animal Crossing can get their share of attention?
Hm...
The reason why people weren’t mad is because they were revealed just 2 days prior to E3, so no one had any expectations for someone else. However, April is 2 months away from E3, so a significant amount of people would be expect that there would be another reveal coming due to spacing between those events.
Yeah, especially considering that the only quadrupedal characters on the roster are Ivysaur and Duck Hunt. Ivysaur uses prehensile vines and Duck Hunt acts like a Looney Toons character, frequently walking on its hind legs. There are no true quadrupedal characters on the roster. The only problem with Lycanroc's chances are whether or not Gen 8 Pokemon are considered for DLC.
Sounds like another point in favor of Joker being the fighter that uses Mii Swordfighter as his base, rather than Erdrick. Of course, he could be saying that it was a struggle to make Erdrick unique instead. Also, someone probably thinks that axe comment is foreshadowing Edelgard, don't they?
I think it is a point for us. We’ve always argued how Lycanroc could be an interesting addition due to it’s potential quadruped form that can bring an interesting take for a moveset among them also probably wanting to also dip a lot in their Rock typing as well, they did the same with Corrin and their Dragon Fang, so who’s to say it can’t happen again? Hopefully this could be sign for Lycanroc.
While I do consider it to be a point for Lycanroc, keep in mind that it isn't particularly hard for a Pokémon to stand out moveset-wise. Decidueye, Mimikyu, Tapu Koko - all of them could fit the same bill. Heck, the Pokémon who we thought was extremely generic and boring was the one who Sakurai thought stood out and did "moves that's only possible with them".
I agree that Robin's shape is a much better fit. Perhaps Joker just needs Mii's code to have a gimmick involving Personas giving him access to different specials, but his animation skeleton is drawn from Robin's.
Well, yes, you are right. However, at least Lycanroc doesn't have to worry about whether or not spirits and Poke Balls mean you can't be DLC. Decidueye doesn't either, but isn't as promoted. Or popular in Japan either, which is probably why Sakurai rejected it.
To be fair, Sakurai never said that Incineroar was chosen due to being able to carry a niche that no other character could. Incineroar was actually chosen due to his adaptability and ability to fit the wrestler archetype Sakurai always wanted. You could put Incineroar's moveset on characters such as Starman, Zangief, and King from Tekken and there would be only be a handful of changes necessary to make it fit each character.
Darkest Lariat itself was inspired by one of Zangief's moves.
Yes, and that just further proves my point that Sakurai's word shouldn't be taken too literally. We always look for some type of pattern based off of his previous statements and roster choices, only to be told, "Well, I decided to go with this character instead because..." People initially get upset, then slowly try to rationalize why his choice can still fit into the context that he's set, when truthfully, it doesn't really fit at all.
He even hints at it during Incineroar’s segment of the last direct, calling it a “Red Cyclone” when mentioning his Darkest Lariat.
