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Being my most wanted character, I have done a lot of research on eevee trying to find a way it could translate to smash. The only thing that trips me up is an up special, there just isn't a good way to make a recovery for eevee without making it quick attack like pikachu/pichu. If the moveset were to be adapted from the let's go games there would be more to work with, given it has a move for every typing of its evolutions and regains access to dig and iron tail. Eevee definitely has the prominence and popularity to be in smash, especially after LGE, but the biggest question is would they do it? Unfortunately, I don't think they will, as it seems that despite all the promotion eevee has received over the past year nintendo has made it clear they don't want it to outshine pikachu. To someone like me seeing eevee as the weakest primary spirit in the entire game is an insult, and the partner eevee spirit only further shows that they do not plan on putting eevee in the game anytime soon. As for the whole eeveelutions as another kind of koopalings thing, I played around with that idea too a while ago, but I think it is far less likely to happen. Sorry for the whole rant here but I just wanted to share my thoughts on the matter.
Play some Digimon games , you will love it!
Yeah, would be nice if i could afford a playstation at the moment.
No , old games, use emulator.
At this point, my other big notables are Geno and...whoever ends up being the frontrunner from Three Houses. The reveal trailer alone hinted at some interesting stuff, though I can't build a concept for anyone until we actually learn more, heh. I wouldn't mind Rex, Isaac, or Krystal, either, though their odds aren't looking too great unless something surprising happens. And who knows, maybe Gen 8 will bring someone interesting, though I stand by believing it was too late for this wave of DLC and needs Wave 2 to be a thing.
Would it help if Gen 8 brought a new Eeveelution as prominent as Sylveon was in Gen 6? Worth a shot, right?
My personal wants are Erdrick, Bandana Dee, and Jill Valentine. I'm also a fan of the idea of Doom Marine, but I really don't know how likely he is at this point.
The only thing that I feel comfortable assuming is that this mystery character isn't a true biped like a human. If it was, then I see no reason why the development team would've chosen DH over one of the dozens of other humanoid characters as a reference. It just doesn't make sense.
Speaking of which.
https://twitter.com/_Mizumi/status/1091187968394579968
On the other hand, they borrow more than just T-poses for these things, if Smash 4 DLC and Piranha Plant are any indication. I think we can safely guess that Plant's T-pose is nothing like Bowser Jr.'s, considering how much lower the former's leaves are to the latter's arms. It seems to be more the overall build and shape of the hurtboxes, and a few very basic animations that they use as a point of reference.
Right. If they truly are using Duck Hunt as a reference point for a DLC newcomer. We need to remember, this is all still just a theory and we need to seek out potential evidence rather than rest on our laurels. We've seen seemingly airtight theories be ripped to shreds in the past, so it'd pay for us to ensure we know what we're talking about here...and have contingency plans if it ends up just a red herring.
Except Shinya Kumazaki is a HAL employee, not Sora or Namco. They only work they've done with Smash after Melee is give the okay to make new ones and have Kirby characters in them.
So we’re back to Square one?
Yeah, apparently that tweet really is a red herring, heh. Goes to show what presence Dragon Quest has in Japan, at least, though it seems that post in particular has nothing to do with Ultimate whatsoever. For what it's worth, apparently "Brave" is the title used for the recurring Hero class in the original Japanese versions, which is why talk started up after word got out of what the dataminers uncovered.
What did he say? We know he has insider connections, so if he's dropping hints then some kind of Direct is probably in the works, but are you sure he actually said something? You know how easily hearsay spreads around this community, and all.
For one, it was way off topic and there were other things to discuss at the moment.
Personally I loved the addition of Alola versions and I really hope they do that with every region, adding exclusive versions of Pokemon.
and if the Fire Starter Zodiac Theory has any substance behind it (which, honestly, it probably doesn't), a horse is one of the unused animals at this point. I think a four-legged fire starter would be a nice change, since I don't believe we have one at this time.
I think its plenty topical (for a greater discussion on crossplay and console intigration), but i see it may be too big for you to swallow (even though it's just one small thing (from your veiwpoint), one small thing can be not so small at all), though it is not my place to condone other opinons.
ASKING ME FOR MY IDEAS, NO ONES EVER BEEN THIS KIND (and i aint being sarcastic, no one wants to hear my ideas)
Why would anything to do with Xbox live be relevant to the Lycanroc thread? Sure you could make the very thin argument that it's related to Nintendo which effects Smash or if you think it somehow means a Microsoft character is coming that effects Lycanroc's chances, but if you accept that then whats the point of having individual threads for characters because every thread would just talk about any character because they would be "relevant" as competition.
I would’ve liked it if each form belong to each of the different maps.
I didn't know you were here on Smashboards. Can you make a concept video on Porky please. I don't know whether you think he is likely or not, but can you at least make a video for him?
Garteam
pointed out a couple weeks ago, is that some major details on Roy as a character were changed in that timespan. To where Roy is actually portrayed wrong in Melee--the loud, hot-blooded fare you're probably used to is actually nothing like he is in his actual game, where he's more calm and intelligent yet thrown into a leadership position he has no experience with due to circumstance. Roy's entire personality changed while his game was still in development, but Melee was not able to adjust in time. Sakurai has even expressed regret over getting Roy wrong back then.
I think you bring up some good points but I think it could still go both ways. Either,So, with the talk shifted to this potential Direct this week, there's something that was brought up elsewhere that has flown under the radar, and it may give us an idea of which characters are available for DLC.
As you guys know, Roy was picked out back in Melee mid-development to add as essentially an echo fighter before the term was invented. His debut game, Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade, was itself in development at the same time, meaning Sakurai had to work off design notes and the like. Then things got further complicated when Roy's game, which was originally planned to be out a few months before Melee, went through delays, eventually not hitting shelves until after Melee.
But what doesn't get talked about much, and something our own
Why does that matter? Because this perfectly explains why Sakurai prefers not to pull the trigger on brand new characters. He wants to wait and ensure everything about them has been finalized so he doesn't interpret them wrong in Smash! Before now, I'd figured he just wanted to make sure their source games didn't flop and that people would recognize the characters, but this make so much more sense from a developer standpoint! It also ties neatly into Rex not making Ultimate's base roster due to the cutoff point being so early this time around...and potentially why Lycanroc may have also been stuck waiting.
"But wait", you may think, "what about Corrin?" That's the thing: remember how we found data after the fact that suggested development on Corrin began later than the rest of Smash 4's DLC, starting only around Spring 2015? Remember how Fire Emblem Fates debuted in Japan in June 2015, just a few months later? In other words, when dev work started on Corrin for Smash, Fates was either wrapping up development or had already gone gold. Everything about Corrin would have been finalized by then.
So how does that matter at all for Ultimate's DLC?
Well...remember how Sakurai said back in November that this wave's characters were officially locked in? If he isn't lying--and, well, he's not the type to outright lie--then these characters were chosen circa November 2018.
So if he doesn't want to jump the gun and end up portraying another character wrong like he did with Roy in Melee, and this wave's DLC picks were finalized three months ago...then how likely is it that we'll be seeing anyone from games debuting in 2019? Even the Three Houses crew could be on shakier ground than I initially thought, and any games set for the end of the year would be at risk of the same types of changes that the Smash team would not be able to take into account.
Wouldn't you say they'd be more likely to look at 2017 and 2018 for first party characters then?
I don't know if it means anything for us, but it's potentially a very big deal, and yet it seems like most speculators are already convinced any first party newcomers must be advertising ploys for games not yet released. Remember when the common narrative was that the likes of Rex and Spring Man would be too late for the base roster? Why has the community done a complete 180 now despite their original theory ending up true?
I found that to always be the case. And it’s why I started doubting FE: Three Houses and Gen 8, it feels like they would’ve been too early to consider this time around and especially since this time Incineroar was decided upon around the time SM got released rather than a year ahead like Greninja. It’s also why I think Lycanroc still has a shot.So, with the talk shifted to this potential Direct this week, there's something that was brought up elsewhere that has flown under the radar, and it may give us an idea of which characters are available for DLC.
As you guys know, Roy was picked out back in Melee mid-development to add as essentially an echo fighter before the term was invented. His debut game, Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade, was itself in development at the same time, meaning Sakurai had to work off design notes and the like. Then things got further complicated when Roy's game, which was originally planned to be out a few months before Melee, went through delays, eventually not hitting shelves until after Melee.
But what doesn't get talked about much, and something our own
Why does that matter? Because this perfectly explains why Sakurai prefers not to pull the trigger on brand new characters. He wants to wait and ensure everything about them has been finalized so he doesn't interpret them wrong in Smash! Before now, I'd figured he just wanted to make sure their source games didn't flop and that people would recognize the characters, but this make so much more sense from a developer standpoint! It also ties neatly into Rex not making Ultimate's base roster due to the cutoff point being so early this time around...and potentially why Lycanroc may have also been stuck waiting.
"But wait", you may think, "what about Corrin?" That's the thing: remember how we found data after the fact that suggested development on Corrin began later than the rest of Smash 4's DLC, starting only around Spring 2015? Remember how Fire Emblem Fates debuted in Japan in June 2015, just a few months later? In other words, when dev work started on Corrin for Smash, Fates was either wrapping up development or had already gone gold. Everything about Corrin would have been finalized by then.
So how does that matter at all for Ultimate's DLC?
Well...remember how Sakurai said back in November that this wave's characters were officially locked in? If he isn't lying--and, well, he's not the type to outright lie--then these characters were chosen circa November 2018.
So if he doesn't want to jump the gun and end up portraying another character wrong like he did with Roy in Melee, and this wave's DLC picks were finalized three months ago...then how likely is it that we'll be seeing anyone from games debuting in 2019? Even the Three Houses crew could be on shakier ground than I initially thought, and any games set for the end of the year would be at risk of the same types of changes that the Smash team would not be able to take into account.
Wouldn't you say they'd be more likely to look at 2017 and 2018 for first party characters then?
I don't know if it means anything for us, but it's potentially a very big deal, and yet it seems like most speculators are already convinced any first party newcomers must be advertising ploys for games not yet released. Remember when the common narrative was that the likes of Rex and Spring Man would be too late for the base roster? Why has the community done a complete 180 now despite their original theory ending up true?
If anything we should be a pack rather than a gang.
LycanPack. I guess it makes sense with whole Wolf thing going on. But Gang kinda has a better ring to it. But I’ll bite.
I really ''dig'' that one.
