Create the Smash Roster, but 100% bias!

Perkilator · Jan 14, 2023

Updating mine again

1. Mario
2. Donkey Kong
3. Link
4. Samus
5. Yoshi
6. Kirby
7. Fox
8. Pikachu
9. Luigi
10. Ness
11. Captain Falcon
12. Meowth

13. Peach
14. Bowser
15. Ice Climbers
16. Sheik
17. Zelda
18. Scizor
19. Wario
20. Diddy Kong
21. Ayumi Tachibana
22. Marth
23. Mewtwo
24. Mr. Game & Watch
25. Young Link
26. Ganondorf
27. Falco
28. Roy

29. Meta Knight
30. Pit
31. Zero Suit Samus
32. Snake
33. Ike
34-36. Pokémon Trainer
- Squirtle
- Ivysaur
- Charizard
37. Lucas
38. Sonic
39. King Dedede
40. Olimar
41. Lucario
42. DeMille
43. R.O.B.
44. Wolf

Base game

45. Villager
46. Mega Man
47. Wii Fit Trainer
48. Rosalina & Luma
49. Little Mac
50. Greninja
51-53. Mii Fighters
- Brawler
- Swordfighter
- Gunner
54. Palutena
55. PAC-MAN
56. Robin
57. Shulk
58. Bowser Jr. / Koopalings
59. Duck Hunt

DLC

60. Rayman
61. Ryu
62. Cloud
63. Azura
64. Bayonetta

65. Inkling
66. Simon Belmont
67. Ridley
68. King K. Rool
69. Incineroar
70. Bandana Waddle Dee
71. Min Min
72. Isabelle
73-74. Pyra / Mythra
75. Banjo & Kazooie

4ε. Dark Samus
13ε. Daisy
22ε. Lucina
28ε. Chrom
30ε. Dark Pit
40ε. Alph
56ε. Celica
61ε. Ken
66ε. Richter Belmont

Vol. 1

76. Joker
77. Hero
78. Crash Bandicoot
79. Estelle Bright
80. Terry Bogard
81. Dragonborn

Vol. 2

82. Dr. Eggman
83. Steve
84. Sephiroth
85. Ring Fit Trainee
86. Kazuya
87. Sora

Venus of the Desert Bloom · Jan 14, 2023

All the rosters reek of bias.

kylexv · Feb 13, 2023

Resurrecting my account after over a year just to post in this random thread lol.

Although the point of this thread is to fall completely into bias, I'm still going to base my picks on the resources the dev team had at the time (that is, I'm not replacing a clone with a non-clone, etc.).

I'd honestly keep the Original 12 exactly the same, so:

1. Mario
2. DK
3. Link
4. Samus
5. Yoshi
6. Kirby
7. Fox
8. Pikachu
9. Luigi
10. Ness
11. Captain Falcon
12. Jigglypuff

Not many changes here:
13. Peach
14. Bowser
15. King Dedede (replacing Icies)
16. Sheik
17. Zelda
18. Dr. Mario
19. Pichu
20. Falco
21. Marth
22. Young Link
23. Ganondorf
24. Mewtwo
25. Roy
26. Mr. Game and Watch

Here is where we get into some more substantial changes:
27. Meta Knight
28. Pit
29. Zero Suit Samus
30. Wario
31. Snake
32. Ike
33. Charizard (solo, Squirtle and Ivysaur are cut)
34. Diddy Kong
35. Lucas
36. Sonic
37. Olimar
38. Ridley
39. Isaac
40. Lucario
41. R.O.B.
42. Toon Link
43. Wolf

The only changes here from the original Brawl roster are the following:

Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Ice Climbers are cut
Mewtwo, Ridley, and Isaac are added

To be continued...maybe

ssbashworld · Feb 14, 2023

EDIT - 3/7/23, cleaned up with roster maker

EDIT - 5/24/23, added direct links to roster images since imgur images arent showing on the post.

Red = Unlockable
Luigi & Gooey are echoes

https://imgur.io/wPetsuJ?r

Red = Unlockables
Mach Rider has an Excitebiker skin
Foreman Spike, Wolf, Black Shadow, Mach Rider, Pichu, & Celica join Luigi & Gooey as Echoes
Slippy & ROB 64 are like Ice Climbers
Goron & Zora Link are like Zelda/Sheik

https://imgur.io/nBfVH08?r

Rare buyout did not happen till a couple months after Melee hit its finally territory. HM to Conker who was excluded since bad fur day probably released too close to Melee to be included.

Red = Unlockable
Green = Replacement for cut Rare Chatacters
Mii Team is like a tag team Pokemon Trainer
No new echoes
Sonic & Crash are unlockable but revealed before launch like 3rd parties were in Brawl.

https://imgur.io/Gv17ASl

Red = Unlockable in both versions
Yellow = Unlockable in 3DS version only
Everyone listed after random icon is DLC.

Slippy & ROB 64 & Mii Team are either reworked or exclusive to the Wii U edition. I dont agree woth completely scrapping a fighter due to 3DS limitations.

No new echoes in base roster (although they are split off in there own row now) but the top row of DLC are all echoes instead of adding veterans since all are here except Rare.

https://i.imgur.io/TROlcmz.jpg

Everyone is here (Rare is back)
Everyone after Tora is DLC except the Miis

Starting roster is

& DJ KK

New Echoes are Veronica, Dark Samus, Tails, Coco, Hocotate President, & Octoling

Kasumi Alpha / Alpha 152 are like Pyra / Mythra
Rash & Billy Lee (with Pimple & Jimmy Lee Alt) are another duo fighter like Ice Climbers or Slippy & ROB 64

Tora & Lora are the main Xenoblade reps, Poppi, Jin, & Haze will be in background like Pokemon Trainer and occasionally interact with special attacks, taunts, etc.

https://i.imgur.io/YuIzzrk.jpg

StrangeKitten · Feb 28, 2023

Tails replaces Piranha Plant. Shadow replaces Byleth. Geno replaces Steve. Eggman replaces Kazuya,

Snorlax, Meowth, Eevee + evolutions (transforming character), Zoroark (Hisuian as echo), Okidogi, Meowscarada, Grovyle, Decidueye, Primarina, Gyarados, Ampharos, Scizor, Heracross, Shuckle, Ariados, Ho-oh, Lugia (Shadow Lugia as an echo), Blaziken, Koraidon, Hawlucha, Ursaluna, Nidoking, Clodsire, Donphan, Tyranitar (Iron Thorns as an echo), Lycanroc-midnight, Cloyster, Articuno, Weavile, Crobat, Toxtricity, Shadow Mewtwo as an echo of Mewtwo, Mew, Gengar, Mimikyu, Typhlosion (Hisuian as an echo), Skeledrige, Roaring Moon, Garchomp, Flygon, Dragonite, Empoleon, Corvinknight, Excadrill, Aggron, Obstagoon, Houndoom, Gardevoir, Grimmsnarl, and Alcremie are all added as playable fighters.

Why yes, I do have just a few favorite Pokemon, why do you ask?

Perkilator · Feb 28, 2023

Venus of the Desert Bloom said:
All the rosters reek of bias.

~~That's the idea you mook~~

Anyways, here's my bajillionth revision

1. Mario
2. Donkey Kong
3. Link
4. Samus
5. Yoshi
6. Kirby
7. Fox
8. Pikachu
9. Luigi
10. Ness
11. Captain Falcon
12. Meowth

13. Peach
14. Bowser
15. Ice Climbers
16. Sheik
17. Zelda
18. Scizor
19. Wario
20. Diddy Kong
21. Ayumi Tachibana
22. Marth
23. Mewtwo
24. Mr. Game & Watch
25. Young Link
26. Ganondorf
27. Falco
28. Roy

29. Meta Knight
30. Pit
31. Zero Suit Samus
32. Snake
33. Ike
34-36. Pokémon Trainer
- Totodile
- Grovyle
- Charizard
37. Lucas
38. Sonic
39. King Dedede
40. Olimar
41. Lucario
42. R.O.B.
43. Toon Link
44. Wolf

Base game

45. Villager
46. Mega Man
47. Wii Fit Trainer
48. Rosalina & Luma
49. Little Mac
50. Greninja
51-53. Mii Fighters
- Brawler
- Swordfighter
- Gunner
54. Palutena
55. PAC-MAN
56. Robin
57. Shulk
58. Bowser Jr. / Koopalings
59. Duck Hunt

DLC

60. Rayman
61. Ryu
62. Cloud
63. Azura
64. Bayonetta

65. Inkling
66. Simon Belmont
67. Ridley
68. King K. Rool
69. Incineroar
70. Rowlet
71. Min Min
72. Isabelle
73-74. Pyra / Mythra
75. Bandana Waddle Dee

4ε. Dark Samus
13ε. Daisy
22ε. Lucina
30ε. Dark Pit
40ε. Alph
56ε. Celica
61ε. Ken
66ε. Richter Belmont

Vol. 1

76. Joker
77. Hero
78. Crash Bandicoot
79. Estelle Bright
80. Terry Bogard
81. Banjo & Kazooie

Vol. 2

82. Euden
83. Dr. Eggman
84. Sephiroth
85. Ring Fit Trainee
86. Kazuya
87. Sora

Zinith · Mar 1, 2023

~~How many here put my boi in just because of being in the OG 8?~~

Anyways, a biased roster from my end wouldn't be a asking for much as I don't have much investment in the other non-Mario characters to want to "alter" them. Nevertheless, most of this is just thinking on the spot

64
1. Mario
2. Donkey Kong
3. Link
4. Samus
5. Yoshi
6. Kirby
7. Fox
8. Pikachu
9. Luigi
10. Diddy Kong
11. Wario
12. Charizard

Melee
13. Peach
14. Bowser
15. Zelda
16. Sheik
17. Falco
18. Ridley
19. Toad
20. Marth
21. Ganondorf
22. Captain Falcon
23. Mewtwo
24. King Dedede
25. Dixie Kong
26. Mr. Game & Watch

Brawl
27. Pit
28. Zero Suit Samus
29. Poochy (so it begins)
30. Ice Climbers
31. Sonic
32. Ike
33. Squirtle
34. Skull Kid
35. Simon
36. Mega Man
37. Ness
38. Olimar
39. Meta Knight
40. R.O.B.
41. Bowser Jr.
42. 9-Volt
43. Lucario
44. Vilager

4
45. Chibi-Robo
46. Crash Bandicoot
47. Rosalina
48. Little Mac
49. Chrom
50. Kamek (would be Yoshi)
51-53. Mii Fighters
54. Palutena
55. Pac-Man
56. Shulk
57. King K. Rool
58. Birdo (would be Mario)
59. Duck Hunt
60. Cloud
61. Ryu
62. Snake
63. Leon

Ultimate
64. Inkling
65. Bayonetta
66. Waluigi (would be Mario)
67. Isabelle
68. Lycancroc
69. Tails
70. Piranha Plant
71. Spyro
72. Erdrick (NOT Hero, 'cause **** that)
73. Banjo-Kazooie
74. Terry
75. Inteleon
76. Sora
77. Kazuya
78. Bandana Dee
79. Pyra
80. Mythra
81. Joker
82. ~~Goku~~ Geno

Echoes
5e. Boshi
13e. Daisy
20e. Lucina
27e. Dark Pit
31e. Shadow
35e. Trevor
61e. Ken

:yoshi:

ssbashworld · Mar 29, 2023

Decided to do stages, will continue to update, may do assists later as well

Peach's Castle (Mushroom Kingdom)	Temple of Time (Hyrule)	Castle Dedede (Dream Land)	Archenean Ship (Archenea Seas)	Ayashiro Estate (Myoujin Village)
Mute City III Grid (King Cup)	Sector Z (Lylat System)	Gruntilda's Lair (Spiral Mountain)	Saffron City (Kanto)

Bowser's Castle (Koopa Kingdom)	Jungle Hijinxs (Kongo Jungle)	25m (Big Ape City)	Mach Ride (Course A - Sector 1)	Manhole (Flat Zone)	Console Floats (Secret)
Clock Town (Termina)	Halberd (Dream Land Skies)	Tharcia Coliseum (Jugdral)	Big Blue II (Queen Cup)	Meteo (Lylat System)	Pokemon Stadium (Johto)
Jinjo Village (Isle 'O Hags)	Ultratech HQ (KI Tourney)	Combo Gym (KI Tourney)	dataDyne Central (Lucerne Tower)	Holotraining (Carrington Institute)

Every 64 stage returns with Battlefield, Final Destination, and Meta Crystal becoming selectable.

Delfino Plaza (Isle Delfino)	Luigi's Mansion (Boo Woods)	Wario Ware Inc. (Variety Tower)	Ordon Village (Ordona Providence)	Dragon Roost Island (Great Sea)
Rail Stations (City Trial)	Castle Crimea (Tellius)	Casino Palace (Emerald Cup)	Pleiades Cruiser (Corneria City)	Pokemon Stadium 2 (Sinnoh)
Brinstar (Planet Zebes)	Nearby Museum (Wild World)	Orange Star Base (Cosmo Land)	Duck Hunting (Game A - Round ∞)	Excitebike (Selection B - Track 4)
Mii Plaza (Mii Channel)	Designer Condo (Interior Decorator)	Smashroom (Pictochat)	Green Hill Zone (South Island)	Warp Room (Wumpa Islands)

All Rare Stages and Console Floats are cut, everwhere else returns

Both		3DS		Wii U		DLC
Peach's Castle (N64)	Temple of Time (N64)	Castle Dedede (N64)	Mute City III Grid (N64)	Archanean Ship (N64)	Ayashiro Estate (N64)	Console Tussle (M)
Sector Z (N64)	Halberd (M)	Saffron City (N64)	Meta Crystal (N64)	Battlefield (N64)	Jungle Hijinx (M)	Tourney Ring (M - Combo Gym Reskin)
Big Blue II (M)	Pokemon Stadium (M)	Clock Town (M)	Tharcia Coliseum (M)	Meteo (M)	Mach Ride (M)	Wii U - Meta Crystal (N64)
Castle Crimea (B)	Green Hill Zone (B)	25m (M)	Manhole (M)	Bowser's Castle (M)	Delfino Plaza (B)	3DS - Battlefield (N64)
Warp Room (B)		Luigi's Mansion (B)	Wario Ware Inc. (B)	Ordon Village (B)	Rail Stations (B)	Wii U - Dragon Roost Island (B)
		Dragon Roost Island (B)	Pleiades Cruiser (B)	Casino Palace (B)	Pokemon Stadium 2 (B)	3DS - Bowser's Castle (M)
		Brinstar (B)	Orange Star Base (B)	Duck Hunt (B)	Mii Plaza (B)
		Nearby Museum (B)	Excitebike (B)	Smashroom (B)	Designer Condo (B)

Both	3DS	Wii U		DLC
Reset Bomb Forest (Overworld)	Rainbow Road (Special Cup)	Comet Observatory (Star Festival Orbit)	Yoshi's Island (Dinosaur Land)	Millennial Tower (Kamurocho)
Holloseum (Dome City)	Hylia River (Hyrule)	Wario Castle (Treasure Square)	Skyloft (Hylian Skies)	First Destination (Secret)
Impact Site (PNF-404)	Prism Tower (Kalos)	Quilty Square (Patch Land)	Falcon Flyover (Gold Cup)	Normandy Dock Bay D24 (Citadel)
Chibi House (Sanderson Home)	Activity Feed (Miiverse)	Andross's Factory (Macbeth)	Outrealm Gate (Ylisse)	Astral Chaos (Manji Clan Mission)
Hayabusa Village (Vigoor Outskirts)		Pokemon Coliseum (Kalos)	Frigate Orpheon (Tallon IV Orbit)
		Black Hole (Macro Land)	Happy Home Academy (Main Street)
		Wuhu Island Flyover (Air-Sports)	Balloon Fight (Game A - Phase 2)
		Aspen Lake (Wave Race / 1080)	Marathon (Tetris)

Base Game	Fighter Pass 1	Fighter Pass 2
Port Mackerel (Turf War)	Amusement Park (City Ruins)	Durandal (Kukai Foundation?)
Windy (Panther Kingdom)	Partenaire (Clashing Worlds)	VS. Marathon (Puyo Puyo Tetris)
Cloud Sea Flythrough (Alrest)	Blag Alley (Ratship)	Unforgettable (DOATEC Museum)
Sheikah Shrine (Monk Trials)	Farmland & Home (Mineral Town)	Florio Island (Lental Region)
	Garreg Mach Monastery (Fodlan)	Poem Notebook (Poetry Brainstorming)
	Bonus - Console Floats 2 (Secret)	Valhalla (Installation 00)

UserKev · Apr 26, 2023

This is 100% my roster.

Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Peach, Wario, Daisy, Bowser Jr. Waluigi, Birdo
DK, Diddy Kong, King K. Rool, Dixie Kong, Cranky Kong
Link, Toon Link, Ghirahim
Samus, Ridley
Captain Falcon
Ness
Yoshi, Kamek
Kirby, King Dedede, Waddle Dee
Fox, Falco, Wolf
Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Sudowoodo, Charizard, Mimikyu
Ice Climbers
Mr. Game & Watch
Marth, Lyn, Ike, Lucina
Olimar
Pit,
Isabelle, Mr. Resetti
Wii Fit Trainer
Little Mac
Shulk
Duck Hunt Dog
Bayonetta
Bomberman
Rayman
Scorpion
Dragonborn

Perkilator · Jun 24, 2023

Decided to take quite the different approach with mine this time, as it primarily takes into account characters that were considered / scrapped, with hints of self-indulgence. (Italics bolded denotes unlockable characters)

It shouls also be noted that in this hypothetical AU:

Budget, technical limitations and time constraints are not an issue
Each game (with the exception of Smash for 3DS / Wii U, because duh) would start out as arcade release before being ported to consoles.

Mario	Donkey Kong	Link	Samus	Yoshi	Kirby	Fox	Pikachu
*Luigi*	Bowser	Marth	Mewtwo	King Dedede	Ness	Captain Falcon	*Meowth*

1P Game Rivalries

Mario vs. Luigi (no surprise here) on Peach’s Castle
Donkey Kong vs. Bowser (Mario's earliest foes) on Kongo Jungle
Link vs. Marth (swordsmen of legend) on Hyrule Castle
Samus vs. Mewtwo (the latter of which loosely resembles an alien) on Planet Zebes
Yoshi vs. King Dedede (big eaters) on Super Happy Tree
Kirby vs. Ness (the former of which is a space traveler) on Dream Land
Fox vs. Captain Falcon (pilots with animal motifs) on Sector Z
Pikachu vs. Meowth (again, no surprise here) on Saffron City

Unlock matches

Luigi: Clear 1P Game as Mario without losing a life
Bowser: Clear 1P Game as DK without losing a life
Marth: Clear 1P Game as Link without losing a life
Mewtwo: Clear 1P Game as Samus without losing a life
King Dedede: Clear 1P Game as Yoshi without losing a life
Ness: Clear 1P Game as Kirby without losing a life
Captain Falcon: Clear 1P Game as Fox without losing a life
Meowth: Clear 1P Game as Pikachu without losing a life

*Luigi*	Mario	Donkey Kong	Link	Samus	Yoshi	*Wario*
*Diddy Kong*	Kirby	Fox	Pikachu	Bowser	Ness	*Ganondorf*
King Dedede	Captain Falcon	Peach	Zelda / Sheik	Scizor	Ice Climbers	*Falco*
Meowth	Mewtwo	Ayumi Tachibana	*Marth*	*Roy*	*Mr. Game & Watch*	RANDOM

Mario	Donkey Kong	Link	Samus / Zero Suit Samus	Kirby	Fox	Pikachu	Marth	*Mr. Game & Watch*
*Luigi*	Diddy Kong	Zelda / Sheik	Pit	King Dedede	*Falco*	Pokémon Trainer*	Ike	*DeMille*
Bowser	Yoshi	*Ganondorf*	Ice Climbers	Meta Knight	Wolf	*Lucario*	Ness	Snake
Peach	Wario	*Tetra*	*R.O.B.*	Olimar	*Captain Falcon*	*Meowth*	Lucas	*Sonic*

*Team now consists of Totodile, Grovyle & Charizard

(Orange denotes 3DS exclusives, blue denotes Wii U exclusives; unlockable characters in the 3DS version are characters who hadn't been properly revealed before the Wii U version comes out, meaning those characters will be a starter in the Wii U version)

3DS version

Mario	Luigi	Bowser	Peach	Rosalina & Luma	*Bowser Jr.*	Donkey Kong	Diddy Kong
Link	Zelda	Sheik	Ganondorf	Samus	Zero Suit Samus	Yoshi	Kirby
King Dedede	Meta Knight	Fox	*Falco*	Pikachu	*Meowth*	Mewtwo	Scizor
Lucario	Greninja	Marth	Ike	Robin	*Ness*	Captain Falcon	Wario
Mr. Game & Watch	Pit	Palutena	*DeMille*	Villager	Little Mac	*Duck Hunt*	*Takamaru*
	*Dark Pit*	Lucina	Sonic	Mega Man	*PAC-MAN*	Mii Fighters*

Wii U version

Mario	Luigi	Bowser	Peach	Rosalina & Luma	Bowser Jr.	Donkey Kong	Diddy Kong
Link	Zelda	Sheik	Ganondorf	Tetra	Samus	Zero Suit Samus	Yoshi
Kirby	King Dedede	Meta Knight	Fox	Falco	Pikachu	Meowth	Mewtwo
Scizor	Lucario	Greninja	Marth	Ike	Ness	Captain Falcon	Ice Climbers
*Wario*	Pit	Palutena	Olimar / Alph	Villager	Wii Fit Trainer	Little Mac	Shulk
	Takamaru	Lucina	Sonic	Mega Man	PAC-MAN	Mii Fighters*

*Still Brawler, Swordfighter and Gunner

Free updates

Tetra (for 3DS)	Popo / Nana (for 3DS)	Olimar / Alph (for 3DS)	Wii Fit Trainer (for 3DS)	Shulk (for 3DS)
Robin (for Wii U)	Mr. Game & Watch (for Wii U)	DeMille (for Wii U)	Dark Pit (for Wii U)	Duck Hunt (for Wii U)

DLC Fighters Pass

Rayman	Ryu	Roy
Lucas	Cloud	Azura
	Bayonetta

Timeline of reveals

E3 2013
- Veterans
  - Mario
  - Bowser
  - Donkey Kong
  - Link, now sporting his Skyward Sword design
  - Samus, now sporting her Other M design
  - Kirby, now sporting his Return to Dream Land design and a new moveset using more of his Copy Abilities
  - Fox
  - Pikachu
  - Pit, now sporting his Uprising design
  - Ice Climbers (Wii U only)
- Newcomers
  - Villager
  - Mega Man
  - Wii Fit Trainer (Wii U only)
July 2013
- Olimar / Alph (Wii U only)
August 2013
- Luigi
September 2013
- Peach
- Tetra
October 2013
- Sonic
November 2013
- Marth
December 2013
- Rosalina & Luma
- Zelda, now sporting her Link Between Worlds design
January 2014
- King Dedede, now sporting his Return to Dream Land design
- Lucario
February 2014
- Little Mac & Scizor
- Diddy Kong
April 2014
- Smash Direct
  - Zero Suit Samus
  - Sheik
  - Yoshi
  - Mewtwo & Greninja
May 2014
- Ike
E3 2014
- Mii Fighters
- Palutena & Captain Falcon
- PAC-MAN & Mr. Game & Watch (3DS only)
July 2014
- Lucina, Ganondorf (now sporting his Ocarina of Time design and a new moveset using his sword from Spaceworld 2000 and Phantom Ganon's trident) & Robin (3DS only)
August 2014
- Meta Knight
- Shulk (Wii U only)
September 2014
- JP launch day (3DS)
October 2014
- US launch day (3DS)
  - Bowser Jr.
  - DeMille (3DS only)
  - Dark Pit (3DS only)
November 2014
- 50-Fact Extravaganza
  - Takamaru
  - All unlockable characters
  - Duck Hunt gameplay on Wii U
  - All 3DS-only characters coming to Wii U in a future update, and vice-versa
  - Rayman (DLC teaser)
- US launch day (Wii U)
December 2014
- JP launch day (WII U)
April 2015
- Rayman
- Fighters Pass (7 fighters for $4,99 each, or a pass for all fighters for $29.99)
- All 3DS-only characters come to Wii U
June 2015
- Ryu
- Roy
- Lucas
- All Wii U-only characters come to 3DS
Novmber 2015
- Cloud
March 2016
- Azura
- Bayonetta

Base game

64	Melee	Brawl	for 3DS / Wii U	Newcomers	Echo Fighters
1. Mario 2. Donkey Kong 3. Link 4. Samus 5. Yoshi 6. Kirby 7. Fox 8. Pikachu 9. Luigi 10. Bowser 11. Marth 12. Mewtwo 13. King Dedede 14. Ness 15. Captain Falcon 16. Meowth	17. Peach 18. Sheik 19. Zelda 20. Scizor 21. Ice Climbers 22. Wario 23. Diddy Kong 24. Ayumi Tachibana 25. Ganondorf 26. Falco 27. Roy 28. Mr. Game & Watch	29. Meta Knight 30. Pit 31. Zero Suit Samus 32. Snake 33. Ike 34-36. Pokémon Trainer Totodile Grovyle Charizard 37. Lucas 38. Sonic 39. Olimar 40. Lucario 41. DeMille 42. R.O.B. 43. Tetra 44. Wolf	45. Villager 46. Mega Man 47. Wii Fit Trainer 48. Rosalina & Luma 49. Little Mac 50. Greninja 51-53. Mii Fighters Brawler Swordfighter Gunner 54. Palutena 55. PAC-MAN 56. Robin 57. Shulk 58. Bowser Jr. 59. Takamaru 60. Duck Hunt 61. Rayman 62. Ryu 63. Cloud 64. Azura 65. Bayonetta	66. Inkling 67. Simon 68. Alucard 69. Ridley 70. King K. Rool 71-72. Pyra / Mythra 73. Bandana Waddle Dee 74. Incineroar 75. Waluigi	4ε. Dark Samus 10ε. Dry Bowser 11ε. Lucina 15ε. Black Shadow 17ε. Daisy 23ε. Dixie Kong 27ε. Chrom 30ε. Dark Pit 38ε. Shadow 39ε. Alph 49ε. Glass Joe 56ε. Celica 62ε. Ken

Fighters Pass

Vol. 1	Vol. 2
76. Joker 77. Slime 78. Crash 79. Estelle Bright 80. Terry Bogard 81. Banjo & Kazooie	82. Min Min 83. Dr. Eggman 84. Sephiroth 85. Steve 86. Kazuya 87. Sora

Timeline of reveals

March 2018
- Teaser trailer
- Inkling
E3 2018
- Everyone is Here!
  - Dry Bowser
  - Black Shadow
  - Daisy
  - Dixie Kong
  - Chrom
  - Shadow
  - Alph
  - Glass Joe
- Simon & Alucard
EVO 2018
- Ridley
- Dark Samus & Celica
- King K. Rool
September 2018 Direct
- Pyra / Mythra
December 2018
- Arcade version is released
February 2019 Direct
- Bandana Waddle Dee
E3 2019
- Ken & Incineroar
- Waluigi
September 2019 Direct
- Adventure Mode: World of Light
December 2019
- TGA: Joker (teaser)
- Console version is released
March 2020 Mini-Direct
- Joker (releasing April 2020)
April 2020
- Mr. Sakurai Presents Joker
July 2020 Mini-Direct
- Slime (releasing shortly after the Direct)
- Mr. Sakurai Presents Slime
- Crash Bandicoot (releasing October 2020)
October 2020
- Mr. Sakurai Presents Crash Bandicoot
- Mini-Direct: Estelle Bright (releasing December 2020)
December 2020
- TGA: Terry Bogard (teaser)
- Mr. Sakurai Presents Estelle Bright
February 2021
- Terry Bogard (releasing March 2021)
March 2021
- Mr. Sakurai Presents Terry Bogard
E3 2021
- Banjo & Kazooie (releasing shortly after)
- Mr. Sakurai Presents Banjo & Kazooie
September 2021 Direct
- Min Min (releasing shortly after)
- Mr. Sakurai Presents Min Min
TGA 2021
- Dr. Eggman (releasing shortly after)
- Mr. Sakurai Presents Dr. Eggman
February 2022 Direct
- Sephiroth (releasing shortly after)
- Mr. Sakurai Presents Sephiroth
June 2022 Mini-Direct
- Steve (releasing shortly after)
- Mr. Sakurai Presents Steve
September 2022 Direct
- Kazuya Mishima (releasing shortly after)
- Mr. Sakurai Presents Kazuya
December 2022
- TGA: Sora (releasing shortly after)
- Mr. Sakurai Presents Sora

Perkilator · Jul 6, 2023

Perkilator said:
Decided to take quite the different approach with mine this time, as it primarily takes into account characters that were considered / scrapped, with hints of self-indulgence. (Italics bolded denotes unlockable characters)

It shouls also be noted that in this hypothetical AU:

Budget, technical limitations and time constraints are not an issue

Each game (with the exception of Smash for 3DS / Wii U, because duh) would start out as arcade release before being ported to consoles.

Mario
Donkey Kong
Link
Samus
Yoshi
Kirby
Fox
Pikachu
Luigi
Bowser
Marth
Mewtwo
King Dedede
Ness
Captain Falcon
Meowth

1P Game Rivalries

Mario vs. Luigi (no surprise here) on Peach’s Castle

Donkey Kong vs. Bowser (Mario's earliest foes) on Kongo Jungle

Link vs. Marth (swordsmen of legend) on Hyrule Castle

Samus vs. Mewtwo (the latter of which loosely resembles an alien) on Planet Zebes

Yoshi vs. King Dedede (big eaters) on Super Happy Tree

Kirby vs. Ness (the former of which is a space traveler) on Dream Land

Fox vs. Captain Falcon (pilots with animal motifs) on Sector Z

Pikachu vs. Meowth (again, no surprise here) on Saffron City

Unlock matches

Luigi: Clear 1P Game as Mario without losing a life

Bowser: Clear 1P Game as DK without losing a life

Marth: Clear 1P Game as Link without losing a life

Mewtwo: Clear 1P Game as Samus without losing a life

King Dedede: Clear 1P Game as Yoshi without losing a life

Ness: Clear 1P Game as Kirby without losing a life

Captain Falcon: Clear 1P Game as Fox without losing a life

Meowth: Clear 1P Game as Pikachu without losing a life

Luigi
Mario
Donkey Kong
Link
Samus
Yoshi
Wario
Diddy Kong
Kirby
Fox
Pikachu
Bowser
Ness
Ganondorf
King Dedede
Captain Falcon
Peach
Zelda / Sheik
Scizor
Ice Climbers
Falco
Meowth
Mewtwo
Ayumi Tachibana
Marth
Roy
Mr. Game & Watch
RANDOM

Mario
Donkey Kong
Link
Samus / Zero Suit Samus
Kirby
Fox
Pikachu
Marth
Mr. Game & Watch
Luigi
Diddy Kong
Zelda / Sheik
Pit
King Dedede
Falco
Pokémon Trainer*
Ike
DeMille
Bowser
Yoshi
Ganondorf
Ice Climbers
Meta Knight
Wolf
Lucario
Ness
Snake
Peach
Wario
Tetra
R.O.B.
Olimar
Captain Falcon
Meowth
Lucas
Sonic

*Team now consists of Totodile, Grovyle & Charizard

(Orange denotes 3DS exclusives, blue denotes Wii U exclusives; unlockable characters in the 3DS version are characters who hadn't been properly revealed before the Wii U version comes out, meaning those characters will be a starter in the Wii U version)

3DS version

Mario
Luigi
Bowser
Peach
Rosalina & Luma
Bowser Jr.
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Link
Zelda
Sheik
Ganondorf
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
Yoshi
Kirby
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Fox
Falco
Pikachu
Meowth
Mewtwo
Scizor
Lucario
Greninja
Marth
Ike
Robin
Ness
Captain Falcon
Wario
Mr. Game & Watch
Pit
Palutena
DeMille
Villager
Little Mac
Duck Hunt
Takamaru

Dark Pit
Lucina
Sonic
Mega Man
PAC-MAN
Mii Fighters*

Wii U version

Mario
Luigi
Bowser
Peach
Rosalina & Luma
Bowser Jr.
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Link
Zelda
Sheik
Ganondorf
Tetra
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
Yoshi
Kirby
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Fox
Falco
Pikachu
Meowth
Mewtwo
Scizor
Lucario
Greninja
Marth
Ike
Ness
Captain Falcon
Ice Climbers
Wario
Pit
Palutena
Olimar / Alph
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
Little Mac
Shulk

Takamaru
Lucina
Sonic
Mega Man
PAC-MAN
Mii Fighters*

*Still Brawler, Swordfighter and Gunner

Free updates

Tetra (for 3DS)
Popo / Nana (for 3DS)
Olimar / Alph (for 3DS)
Wii Fit Trainer (for 3DS)
Shulk (for 3DS)
Robin (for Wii U)
Mr. Game & Watch (for Wii U)
DeMille (for Wii U)
Dark Pit (for Wii U)
Duck Hunt (for Wii U)

DLC Fighters Pass

Rayman
Ryu
Roy
Lucas
Cloud
Azura

Bayonetta

Timeline of reveals

E3 2013

Veterans

Mario

Bowser

Donkey Kong

Link, now sporting his Skyward Sword design

Samus, now sporting her Other M design

Kirby, now sporting his Return to Dream Land design and a new moveset using more of his Copy Abilities

Fox

Pikachu

Pit, now sporting his Uprising design

Ice Climbers (Wii U only)

Newcomers

Villager

Mega Man

Wii Fit Trainer (Wii U only)

July 2013

Olimar / Alph (Wii U only)

August 2013

Luigi

September 2013

Peach

Tetra

October 2013

Sonic

November 2013

Marth

December 2013

Rosalina & Luma

Zelda, now sporting her Link Between Worlds design

January 2014

King Dedede, now sporting his Return to Dream Land design

Lucario

February 2014

Little Mac & Scizor

Diddy Kong

April 2014

Smash Direct

Zero Suit Samus

Sheik

Yoshi

Mewtwo & Greninja

May 2014

Ike

E3 2014

Mii Fighters

Palutena & Captain Falcon

PAC-MAN & Mr. Game & Watch (3DS only)

July 2014

Lucina, Ganondorf (now sporting his Ocarina of Time design and a new moveset using his sword from Spaceworld 2000 and Phantom Ganon's trident) & Robin (3DS only)

August 2014

Meta Knight

Shulk (Wii U only)

September 2014

JP launch day (3DS)

October 2014

US launch day (3DS)

Bowser Jr.

DeMille (3DS only)

Dark Pit (3DS only)

November 2014

50-Fact Extravaganza

Takamaru

All unlockable characters

Duck Hunt gameplay on Wii U

All 3DS-only characters coming to Wii U in a future update, and vice-versa

Rayman (DLC teaser)

US launch day (Wii U)

December 2014

JP launch day (WII U)

April 2015

Rayman

Fighters Pass (7 fighters for $4,99 each, or a pass for all fighters for $29.99)

All 3DS-only characters come to Wii U

June 2015

Ryu

Roy

Lucas

All Wii U-only characters come to 3DS

Novmber 2015

Cloud

March 2016

Azura

Bayonetta

Base game

64 Melee Brawl for 3DS / Wii U Newcomers Echo Fighters

1. Mario

2. Donkey Kong

3. Link

4. Samus

5. Yoshi

6. Kirby

7. Fox

8. Pikachu

9. Luigi

10. Bowser

11. Marth

12. Mewtwo

13. King Dedede

14. Ness

15. Captain Falcon

16. Meowth

17. Peach

18. Sheik

19. Zelda

20. Scizor

21. Ice Climbers

22. Wario

23. Diddy Kong

24. Ayumi Tachibana

25. Ganondorf

26. Falco

27. Roy

28. Mr. Game & Watch

29. Meta Knight

30. Pit

31. Zero Suit Samus

32. Snake

33. Ike

34-36. Pokémon Trainer

Totodile

Grovyle

Charizard

37. Lucas

38. Sonic

39. Olimar

40. Lucario

41. DeMille

42. R.O.B.

43. Tetra

44. Wolf

45. Villager

46. Mega Man

47. Wii Fit Trainer

48. Rosalina & Luma

49. Little Mac

50. Greninja

51-53. Mii Fighters

Brawler

Swordfighter

Gunner

54. Palutena

55. PAC-MAN

56. Robin

57. Shulk

58. Bowser Jr.

59. Takamaru

60. Duck Hunt

61. Rayman

62. Ryu

63. Cloud

64. Azura

65. Bayonetta

66. Inkling

67. Simon

68. Alucard

69. Ridley

70. King K. Rool

71-72. Pyra / Mythra

73. Bandana Waddle Dee

74. Incineroar

75. Waluigi

4ε. Dark Samus

10ε. Dry Bowser

11ε. Lucina

15ε. Black Shadow

17ε. Daisy

23ε. Dixie Kong

27ε. Chrom

30ε. Dark Pit

38ε. Shadow

39ε. Alph

49ε. Glass Joe

56ε. Celica

62ε. Ken

Fighters Pass

Vol. 1 Vol. 2

76. Joker

77. Slime

78. Crash

79. Estelle Bright

80. Terry Bogard

81. Banjo & Kazooie

82. Min Min

83. Dr. Eggman

84. Sephiroth

85. Steve

86. Kazuya

87. Sora

Timeline of reveals

March 2018

Teaser trailer

Inkling

E3 2018

Everyone is Here!

Dry Bowser

Black Shadow

Daisy

Dixie Kong

Chrom

Shadow

Alph

Glass Joe

Simon & Alucard

EVO 2018

Ridley

Dark Samus & Celica

King K. Rool

September 2018 Direct

Pyra / Mythra

December 2018

Arcade version is released

February 2019 Direct

Bandana Waddle Dee

E3 2019

Ken & Incineroar

Waluigi

September 2019 Direct

Adventure Mode: World of Light

December 2019

TGA: Joker (teaser)

Console version is released

March 2020 Mini-Direct

Joker (releasing April 2020)

April 2020

Mr. Sakurai Presents Joker

July 2020 Mini-Direct

Slime (releasing shortly after the Direct)

Mr. Sakurai Presents Slime

Crash Bandicoot (releasing October 2020)

October 2020

Mr. Sakurai Presents Crash Bandicoot

Mini-Direct: Estelle Bright (releasing December 2020)

December 2020

TGA: Terry Bogard (teaser)

Mr. Sakurai Presents Estelle Bright

February 2021

Terry Bogard (releasing March 2021)

March 2021

Mr. Sakurai Presents Terry Bogard

E3 2021

Banjo & Kazooie (releasing shortly after)

Mr. Sakurai Presents Banjo & Kazooie

September 2021 Direct

Min Min (releasing shortly after)

Mr. Sakurai Presents Min Min

TGA 2021

Dr. Eggman (releasing shortly after)

Mr. Sakurai Presents Dr. Eggman

February 2022 Direct

Sephiroth (releasing shortly after)

Mr. Sakurai Presents Sephiroth

June 2022 Mini-Direct

Steve (releasing shortly after)

Mr. Sakurai Presents Steve

September 2022 Direct

Kazuya Mishima (releasing shortly after)

Mr. Sakurai Presents Kazuya

December 2022

TGA: Sora (releasing shortly after)

Mr. Sakurai Presents Sora

Decided to do this visually using Roster Maker (I tried to do one with Ultimate but it was too big).

Mark my words, however; "Everyone is Here" would still happen for Ultimate, and these would be the newcomers:

Dark Samus
Dry Bowser
Black Shadow
Daisy
Dixie Kong
Chrom
Shadow the Hedgeog
Glass Joe
Celica
Ken

Simon Belmont
Alucard
Ridley
King K. Rool
Pyra / Mythra
Bandana Waddle Dee
Incineroar
Waluigi

Vol. 1
- Joker
- Slime
- Crash Bandicoot
- Estelle Bright
- Terry Bogard
- Banjo & Kazooie
Vol. 2
- Chun-Li
- Dr. Eggman
- Sephiroth
- Steve
- Kazuya Mishima
- Sora

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Mario
Luigi
Bowser
Donkey Kong
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Pikachu
Mewtwo
Kirby
Dedede
Marth
Samus
Ness
Captain Falcon

Mario
Luigi
Peach
Daisy
Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Tingle
Pokémon Trainer Red
Pikachu
Mewtwo
Azumarril
Kirby
Dedede
Meta Knight
Marth
Roy
Samus
Ridley
Ness
Banjo-Kazooie
James Bond
Joanna Dark

All the ones from Melee
Wario
K.Rool
Pit
Palutena
Deoxys
Lucario
Rundas
Solid Snake
Bomberman
Simon Belmont
Alucard
Sonic
Dr.Eggman
Geno
Cloud Strife
Isaac Clarke
Mega Man
Pac-Man
Sora
Lucas
Miis
Optimus Prime
Jotaro

all the ones from Brawl and Melee
Waluigi
Duck Hunt Dog
Mach Rider
Wii Fit Trainer
Olimar/Alph
Chrom
Lucina
Robin
Black Shadow
Sephiroth
Greninja
Giovanni
Luke Skywalker/Darth Vader (not sure which one to choose)
Indiana Jones
Kenshiro
Saitama

All the past ones
Guybrush Threepwood
Pauline
Joker from Persona 5
Dragon Quest Heroes
Dragonlord
Alex Kidd
Rundas from Metroid Prime 3
Doomguy
Jonesy
Inkling
Min Min
Steve/Alex
Terry Bogard
Marco from Metal Slug
Kazuya
Fantastic Four
Doctor Doom
Megatron
Superman
Goku

jamesster445 · Jul 17, 2023

If Smash 6 has to be some sort of soft reboot here's my biased roster.

I limited the roster to about 60, roughly the same amount as Smash 4's final roster.
Hot take(?) but I think most of the Smash roster hold up well. Every character is getting some touch ups to an extent. Really everyone should just get a 5th special, a Shield Special specifically. But my focus is adding new faces.
Every previously repped series gets to keep at least one character, but no more than 4. (There are 2 exceptions and they are exactly who you think they are)
I cut all 3rd parties, this reboot is going back to its roots as a celebration of Nintendo. We can add them back in Smash 7.
Subject to change the minute Monolithsoft reveals their new IP.

Alt

Mario
Luigi
Peach
Daisy
Bowser
DK
Diddy
K Rool
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Shiek/Impa
Samus
Ridley
Yoshi
Kirby
Meta-Knight
King Dedede
Fox
Falco
Wolf
Pikachu
Lucario
PKMN Trainer (Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard)
Incineroar
Ness
Lucas
Captain Falcon
Ice Climbers
Marth
Ike
Robin
G&W
Pit
Palutena
Wario
Olimar
ROB
Villager
Isabelle
Wii Fit Trainer
Lil Mac
Shulk
Pyra/Mythra
Duck Hunt
Inkling
Min Min
Waluigi
Dixie Kong
EMMI
Bandana Dee
Meowscarada
Alear
Noah and Mio
Octoling
Officer Howard
Ring Fit Trainee
Andy
Euden
Foreman Spike

Perkilator · Aug 18, 2023

Here’s take #2837565
(Italics bold denotes unlockable characters)

Mario	Donkey Kong	Link	Samus	Yoshi	Kirby	Fox	Pikachu
Luigi	*Bowser*	*Marth*	*Mewtwo*	*King Dedede*	*Ness*	*Captain Falcon*	Meowth

Luigi	*Wario*	Mario	Donkey Kong	Link	Samus	Yoshi	*Ganondorf*	King Dedede
Falco	Meowth	Kirby	Fox	Pikachu	Ness	Captain Falcon	Mewtwo	Mr. Game & Watch
	Marth	Bowser	Peach	Zelda / Sheik	Scizor	Ice Climbers	*Roy*

Mario	Donkey Kong	Link	Samus / Zero Suit Samus	Kirby	Fox	Pikachu	*Marth*	*Captain Falcon*	Snake
Luigi	Diddy Kong	Zelda / Sheik	Pit	King Dedede	Falco	Meowth	Ike	Isaac	Sonic
Bowser	Yoshi	Ganondorf	Ice Climbers	Meta Knight	*Wolf*	Mewtwo	*Ness*	DeMille	RANDOM ONE
Peach	Wario	*Tetra*	*Mr. Game & Watch*	Olimar	Pokémon Trainer (Totodile / Grovyle / Charizard)	*Lucario*	Lucas	R.O.B.	RANDOM ALL

Mario	Luigi	Bowser	*Bowser Jr.*	Peach	Rosalina & Luma	Wario	Yoshi	Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong	Link	Zelda	Sheik	Ganondorf	Tetra	Ghirahim	Samus	Zero Suit Samus
Kirby	King Dedede	Meta Knight	Bandana Waddle Dee	Fox	Falco	Pikachu	Charizard	*Meowth*
*Scizor*	Lucario	Greninja	Marth	Ike	Robin	*Ness*	Captain Falcon	*Mr. Game & Watch*
Pit	*Dark Pit*	Palutena	Olimar	Isaac	DeMille	*R.O.B.*	Villager	Wii Fit Trainer
	Little Mac	Shulk	Sonic	Mega Man	PAC-MAN	Mii Fighter	RANDOM

Mewtwo	Rayman	Roy
Lucas	Ryu	Cloud
Takamaru	Bayonetta	Duck Hunt

64	Melee	Brawl	for 3DS / Wii U	Newcomers
1. Mario 2. Donkey Kong 3. Link 4. Samus 4ε. *Dark Samus* 5. Yoshi 6. Kirby 7. Fox 8. Pikachu 9. *Luigi* 10. Bowser 11. Marth 12. Mewtwo 13. King Dedede 14. *Ness* 15. *Captain Falcon* 16. *Meowth*	17. Peach 17ε. *Daisy* 18. Zelda 19. Sheik 19ε. *Yiga* 20. Scizor 21. Ice Climbers 22. *Wario* 23. *Ganondorf* 24. *Falco* 25. *Roy* 25ε. *Chrom* 26. *Mr. Game & Watch*	27. Meta Knight 28. Pit 28ε. Dark Pit 29. Zero Suit Samus 30. Olimar 30ε. *Alph* 31. Snake 32. Ike Pokémon Trainer 33. Totodile 34. Grovyle 35. Charizard 36. Diddy Kong 36ε. Dixie Kong 37. Lucas 38. Sonic 39. *Tetra* 40. *Wolf* 41. *Lucario* 42. Isaac 43. DeMille 44. *R.O.B.*	45. Villager 46. Mega Man 47. Wii Fit Trainer 48. Rosalina & Luma 49. Bandana Waddle Dee 50. Little Mac 51. Ghirahim 52. Greninja 53. Mii Fighter 54. Palutena 55. PAC-MAN 56. Robin 57. Shulk 58. *Bowser Jr.* 59. Rayman 60. Ryu 60ε. *Ken* 61. *Cloud* 62. Takamaru 63. Bayonetta 64. Duck Hunt	65. Inkling 66. Simon 66ε. Richter 67. Ridley 68. King K. Rool 69. *Incineroar* 70. Waluigi 71-72. Pyra / Mythra 73. Magolor 74. Min Min 74ε. *Ninjara* 75. Banjo & Kazooie

Vol. 1	Vol. 2
76. Joker 77. Hero 78. Crash Bandicoot 79. Estelle Bright Team NEO GEO 80. Terry Bogard 81. Iori Yagami 82. Nakoruru 83. Steve	84. Chun-Li 85. Dr. Eggman 86. Sephiroth 87. Ring Fit Trainee 88. Shantae 89. Kazuya Mishima 90. Sora

Perkilator · Jan 12, 2024

Perkilator said:
Here’s take #2837565

Mario
Donkey Kong
Link
Samus
Yoshi
Kirby
Fox
Pikachu
Luigi
Bowser
Marth
Mewtwo
King Dedede
Ness
Captain Falcon
Meowth

Luigi
Wario
Mario
Donkey Kong
Link
Samus
Yoshi
Ganondorf
King Dedede
Falco
Meowth
Kirby
Fox
Pikachu
Ness
Captain Falcon
Mewtwo
Mr. Game & Watch

Marth
Bowser
Peach
Zelda / Sheik
Scizor
Ice Climbers
Roy

Mario
Donkey Kong
Link
Samus / Zero Suit Samus
Kirby
Fox
Pikachu
Marth
Captain Falcon
Snake
Luigi
Diddy Kong
Zelda / Sheik
Pit
King Dedede
Falco
Meowth
Ike
Isaac
Sonic
Bowser
Yoshi
Ganondorf
Ice Climbers
Meta Knight
Wolf
Mewtwo
Ness
DeMille
RANDOM ONE
Peach
Wario
Tetra
Mr. Game & Watch
Olimar
Pokémon Trainer (Totodile / Grovyle / Charizard)
Lucario
Lucas
R.O.B.
RANDOM ALL

Mario
Luigi
Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Peach
Rosalina & Luma
Wario
Yoshi
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Link
Zelda
Sheik
Ganondorf
Tetra
Ghirahim
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
Kirby
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Bandana Waddle Dee
Fox
Falco
Pikachu
Charizard
Meowth
Scizor
Lucario
Greninja
Marth
Ike
Robin
Ness
Captain Falcon
Mr. Game & Watch
Pit
Dark Pit
Palutena
Olimar
Isaac
DeMille
R.O.B.
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer

Little Mac
Shulk
Sonic
Mega Man
PAC-MAN
Mii Fighter
RANDOM

Mewtwo
Rayman
Roy
Lucas
Ryu
Cloud
Takamaru
Bayonetta
Duck Hunt

64 Melee Brawl for 3DS / Wii U Newcomers

1. Mario

2. Donkey Kong

3. Link

4. Samus

4ε. Dark Samus

5. Yoshi

6. Kirby

7. Fox

8. Pikachu

9. Luigi

10. Bowser

11. Marth

12. Mewtwo

13. King Dedede

14. Ness

15. Captain Falcon

16. Meowth

17. Peach

17ε. Daisy

18. Zelda

19. Sheik

19ε. Yiga

20. Scizor

21. Ice Climbers

22. Wario

23. Ganondorf

24. Falco

25. Roy

25ε. Chrom

26. Mr. Game & Watch

27. Meta Knight

28. Pit

28ε. Dark Pit

29. Zero Suit Samus

30. Olimar

30ε. Alph

31. Snake

32. Ike

Pokémon Trainer

33. Totodile

34. Grovyle

35. Charizard

36. Diddy Kong

36ε. Dixie Kong

37. Lucas

38. Sonic

39. Tetra

40. Wolf

41. Lucario

42. Isaac

43. DeMille

44. R.O.B.

45. Villager

46. Mega Man

47. Wii Fit Trainer

48. Rosalina & Luma

49. Bandana Waddle Dee

50. Little Mac

51. Ghirahim

52. Greninja

53. Mii Fighter

54. Palutena

55. PAC-MAN

56. Robin

57. Shulk

58. Bowser Jr.

59. Rayman

60. Ryu

60ε. Ken

61. Cloud

62. Takamaru

63. Bayonetta

64. Duck Hunt

65. Inkling

66. Simon

66ε. Richter

67. Ridley

68. King K. Rool

69. Incineroar

70. Waluigi

71-72. Pyra / Mythra

73. Magolor

74. Min Min

74ε. Ninjara

75. Banjo & Kazooie

Vol. 1 Vol. 2

76. Joker

77. Hero

78. Crash Bandicoot

79. Estelle Bright

Team NEO GEO

80. Terry Bogard

81. Iori Yagami

82. Nakoruru

83. Steve

84. Chun-Li

85. Dr. Eggman

86. Sephiroth

87. Ring Fit Trainee

88. Shantae

89. Kazuya Mishima

90. Sora

Changed it again if anyone cares.

TheLastMaverickHunter · Jan 20, 2024

Feel free to dunk on me for this

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,

for Hero of Legend,

for

Brawl
Keep:

Cut:

for Tetra,

for Knuckles,

for

,

for Zero,

for

,

for

Since

got in early, his newcomer slot is used to declone

(his old moveset is inherited by Black Shadow)

For
Keep:

Cut:

for Toad,

for N & Zoroark,

for Groose,

for Lyn,

for Sceptile,

for Travis Touchdown,

for Bandana Dee,

for Matt/Wii Sports Mii,

for Rayman

Ultimate
Keep:

Cut:

for ,

for Tom Nook,

for Galacta Knight,

for Dixie Kong
Also add: Midbus, Paper Mario and Henry Cooldown since

are already in

Fighters Passes
Keep:

Cut:

for Anthony Higgs,

for Raiden,

for Slime,

for CJ (San Andreas),

for Marina Liteyears,

for Skull Kid,

for Shadow,

for Sol Badguy
Add (since FP3 is allowed): Isaac, Bill Rizer, Dante, Crash Bandicoot, Waluigi

ssbashworld · Jan 22, 2024

nirvanafan said:
EDIT - 3/7/23, cleaned up with roster maker

EDIT - 5/24/23, added direct links to roster images since imgur images arent showing on the post.

Red = Unlockable
Luigi & Gooey are echoes

https://imgur.io/wPetsuJ?r

Red = Unlockables
Mach Rider has an Excitebiker skin
Foreman Spike, Wolf, Black Shadow, Mach Rider, Pichu, & Celica join Luigi & Gooey as Echoes
Slippy & ROB 64 are like Ice Climbers
Goron & Zora Link are like Zelda/Sheik

https://imgur.io/nBfVH08?r

Rare buyout did not happen till a couple months after Melee hit its finally territory. HM to Conker who was excluded since bad fur day probably released too close to Melee to be included.

Red = Unlockable
Green = Replacement for cut Rare Chatacters
Mii Team is like a tag team Pokemon Trainer
No new echoes
Sonic & Crash are unlockable but revealed before launch like 3rd parties were in Brawl.

https://imgur.io/Gv17ASl

Red = Unlockable in both versions
Yellow = Unlockable in 3DS version only
Everyone listed after random icon is DLC.

Slippy & ROB 64 & Mii Team are either reworked or exclusive to the Wii U edition. I dont agree woth completely scrapping a fighter due to 3DS limitations.

No new echoes in base roster (although they are split off in there own row now) but the top row of DLC are all echoes instead of adding veterans since all are here except Rare.

https://i.imgur.io/TROlcmz.jpg

Everyone is here (Rare is back)
Everyone after Tora is DLC except the Miis

Starting roster is & DJ KK

New Echoes are Veronica, Dark Samus, Tails, Coco, Hocotate President, & Octoling

Kasumi Alpha / Alpha 152 are like Pyra / Mythra
Rash & Billy Lee (with Pimple & Jimmy Lee Alt) are another duo fighter like Ice Climbers or Slippy & ROB 64

Tora & Lora are the main Xenoblade reps, Poppi, Jin, & Haze will be in background like Pokemon Trainer and occasionally interact with special attacks, taunts, etc.

https://i.imgur.io/YuIzzrk.jpg

Thought of some changes to my rosters.

Black Knight replaces Micaiah
Decided that were a magic based moveset is cool we did add Zelda in the same game plus Black Knight is just a good opportunity to add an iconic villain from the series.

Robin replaces Tiki
With Micaiah gone it would make sense to add Robin with the mage moveset Micaiah would have had.

Byleth Almost Replaced
Before adding Black Knight i did consider adding Flame Emperor over Byleth but that no longer seems necessary.

Twelve replaces Ruby Heart
I added Ruby Heart since i want someone to rep all Capcom fighting games. I thought of a better idea being Twelve from SF3. Were they have not appeared in a Capcom Vs. game they can canonically shape shift & mimic other fighters. Taking some creative liberties we can have them do this for different characters/moves from various Capcom fighters & series like the Ditto concept i also had. This would represent what i am going for better imo.

Dante replaces Monika
Dante overall replaces Monika. I still want Monika in Smash but realized she may not be as impactiful here with visual novels already being here through Ayumi. I dont think a dedicated horror or indie rep is enough given the potential humble origins or horror elements other series already here may have. Dante is admittedly a stretch for me since ive only played the mediocre at best DMC2 but from what ive seen of other series games & the character himself i am very optimistic he will become a favorite, plus at the very least the series was a pioneer & influenced other games i do really like. Also getting the Dante people wanted over PS Allstars would be great to see the reaction of.

Kiryu replaces Majima
Majima is still my favorite character & I have always liked Kiryu but after playing Kiwami 2 & most of 3 i feel lime ive grown to like Kiryu even more & feel a little weird putting Majima over him. I would also swap his timing with one of the Capcom reps delaying him to an Ultimate Fighter Pass which makes more sense as it would match closer to the franchises explosion in popularity outside Japan (after the international release of 0). Where i have taken risks on the potential of 1st party series, 3rd party is another ballgame & would be weird to have too niche of series considering all other options.

Giga Mac replaces King Hippo (DK Echo)
The moves work either way imo but Giga Macs general stance would be closer to DK plus it kind of gives us the series protag.

Krystal replaces Veronica
Veronica cant be a Micaiah echo if Micaiah missed the roster to begin with. Slippy & ROB 64 are our Ice Climbers like rep but make it in 3DS with ROB 64 now being a floating head working like a mix of Nana & Luma. Decided to not let that concept die & use Krystal as a Slippy echo to keep that playstyle in Ultimate with this new spot (something i almost did initially anyway)

Alph replaces President
This is something ive been back & forth on anyway (with Louie also in the mix).

Hestu replaces Skull Kid
As much as I like Skull Kid the timing (around BotW) always fealt off. Combine that with Goron & Zora Link already repping Majoras Mask & i decided to shop around. Think Hestu would be an interesting choice with the large roll Koroks had in BotW, ties to the iconic Great Deku Tree, & standout design & moveset potential.

Dingodile/Ayane replace Coco/Kasumi Alphas

This was honestly influenced by a post WarioWarioWario made. I always pictured a Coco echo or Cortex to get in after Crash. I do now think Dingodile could be the best 2nd choice. Hes popular, timing is good (around Crash 4), & has fun moveset potential. He isnt the most expected new series fighter but makes a lot of sense making him a great choice imo.

Decided to swap with Ninja Gaiden/Dead or Alive with Ayane being added as a Hayabusa echo with Crash series now getting the 2nd unique fighter from a 3rd party series role.

The Sim replaces Farmer (SoS/HM)
I like both series. IDK, Sims wasnt really on my radar before but do like the idea & is seemingly a much bigger series. We already have EA in with Mass Effect plus i feel like both these fighters would appeal to a similar audience anyway.

Melia replaces Lora
Honestly forgot Xenoblade DE was out as earlier as it was so a rep here could make more sense than a Torna Expansion character. Melia makes sense with Future Connected being a big selling point for DE plus I think she would stand out & be more unique than Shulk (or Lora for that matter)

Perkilator · Mar 17, 2024

Decided to make a new one using TierMaker:

Perkilator · Aug 23, 2024

In the spirit of me changing my mind all the time:

*Luigi*	Mario	Donkey Kong	Link	Samus	*Captain Falcon*
*Ness*	Yoshi	Kirby	Fox	Pikachu	Jigglypuff

*Luigi*	Diddy Kong	Mario	Donkey Kong	Link	Samus	Yoshi	*Ganondorf*	King Dedede
*Falco*	Jigglypuff	Kirby	Fox	Pikachu	Ness	Captain Falcon	Meowth	*Mewtwo*
	*Marth*	Bowser	Peach	Zelda / Sheik	Scizor	Ice Climbers	*Mr. Game & Watch*

Mario	Donkey Kong	Link	Samus / Zero Suit Samus	Kirby	Fox	Pikachu	*Marth*	Isaac
Luigi	Diddy Kong	Zelda / Sheik	Pit	King Dedede	*Falco*	Pokémon Trainer (Totodile / Grovyle / Charizard)	Ike	*DeMille*
Peach	Yoshi	Ganondorf	Ice Climbers	Meta Knight	Wolf	Jigglypuff	*Ness*	Snake
Bowser	Wario	R.O.B.	*Mr. Game & Watch*	Olimar	*Captain Falcon*	*Lucario*	Lucas	Sonic

Mario	Luigi	Peach	Bowser	*Bowser Jr.*	Rosalina & Luma	Donkey Kong	Diddy Kong	Yoshi
*Wario*	Link	Zelda	Sheik	*Ganondorf*	Samus	Zero Suit Samus	Fox	*Falco*
Kirby	King Dedede	Meta Knight	Pikachu	Charizard	*Meowth*	Jigglypuff	*Scizor*	Lucario
Greninja	*Ness*	Captain Falcon	Marth	Ike	Robin	*Mr. Game & Watch*	Pit	*Dark Pit*
Palutena	Olimar	*Isaac*	DeMille	R.O.B.	Villager	Wii Fit Trainer	Little Mac	Shulk
	*Takamaru*	Duck Hunt	Sonic	Mega Man	PAC-MAN	Mii Fighter (Brawler / Swordfighter / Gunner)	RANDOM

Bonus Fighter	Wave 1	Wave 2	Wave 3
Mewtwo	Lloyd Irving & Rayman	Ryu & Cloud	Azura & Bayonetta

64	Melee	Brawl	for 3DS / Wii U	Newcomers
1. Mario 2. Donkey Kong 3. Link 4. Samus 4ε. Dark Samus 5. Yoshi 6. Kirby 7. Fox 8. Pikachu 9. Luigi 10. Ness 11. Captain Falcon 12. Jigglypuff	13. Peach 13ε. Daisy 14. Bowser 15. Ice Climbers 16. Sheik 16ε. Yiga 17. Zelda 18. Scizor 19. Diddy Kong 20. Ganondorf 21. King Dedede 22. Falco 23. Meowth 24. Mewtwo 25. Marth 25ε. Celica 26. Mr. Game & Watch	27. Meta Knight 28. Pit 28ε. Dark Pit 29. Zero Suit Samus 30. Wario 31. Snake 32. Ike 33-35. Pokémon Trainer (Totodile / Grovyle / Charizard) 36. Olimar 36ε. Alph 37. Lucas 38. Sonic 39. Wolf 40. Lucario 41. Isaac 42. DeMille 43. R.O.B.	44. Villager 45. Mega Man 45ε. Proto Man 46. Wii Fit Trainer 47. Rosalina & Luma 48. Little Mac 49. Greninja 50-52. Mii Fighter (Brawler / Swordfighter / Gunner) 53. Palutena 54. PAC-MAN 55. Robin 56. Shulk 57. Bowser Jr. 58. Takamaru 59. Duck Hunt 60. Lloyd Irving 61. Rayman 62. Ryu 62ε. Ken 63. Cloud 64. Azura 65. Bayonetta 65ε. Jeanne	66. Inkling 67. Simon 67ε. Richter 68. Ridley 69. King K. Rool 70. Isabelle 71. Incineroar 72. Waluigi 73. Bandana Waddle Dee 74. Skull Kid 75. Banjo & Kazooie

Vol. 1	Vol. 2	Vol. 3
76. Joker 77. Hero 78. Crash 79. Terry 80. Steve	81. Byleth 82. Ring Fit Trainee 83. Sephiroth 84. Officer Howard 85. Cinderace	86-87. Pyra / Mythra 88. Min Min 89. Kazuya 90. Sora

Johnknight1 · Aug 23, 2024

Mario
Luigi
Bowser
Peach
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Link
Samus
Kirby
Fox
Pikachu
Mewtwo

Yoshi
Wario
Diddy Kong
Ganondorf
Young Link
Sheik
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Falco
Charizard
Eevee / Eeveelutions
Ness
Captain Falcon
Marth

Toon Link
Beast Ganon
Zero Suit Samus
Ridley
Lucas
Wolf
Blastoise (replaces Squirtle)
Venusaur (replaces Ivysaur)
Deoxys
Lucario
Ike
Little Mac
Villager
Hero
Snake
Mega Man
Sonic
Cloud

King K. Rool
Zoroark
Greninja
Robin
Mr. Game and Watch
Tom Nook
Shulk
Pit
Isaac
Duck Hunt
Big Boss / Naked Snake (Echo Fighter)
Ryu
Ken Masters (Echo Fighter)
Simon Belmont
Minecraft Steve
Kazuya Mishima
Tetris

Banjo & Kazooie
Dante
Sephiroth
Crono

Remain characters: 1
Dixie Kong (Echo Fighter)
Decidueye
Lucina (Echo Fighter)
Olimar
Rex (with Pyra / Mythra)
Akuma (Echo Fighter)
Jin Kazama (Echo Fighter)
Terry Bogard
Wonder Red
Monster Hunter

Cranky Kong / The Original Donkey Kong
Joker
Crash Bandicoot
Chosen Undead (Dark Souls)
The Dragonborn (Skyrim)
Sora

Urshifu
Kazuma Kiryu
The Sims
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)
Leon Kennedy
Master Chief
Kratos (God of War)

Jigglypuff
Dr. Mario
Zelda
Pichu
Ice Climbers
Roy
Pichu
ROB
Mii Brawler
Mii Gunner
Mii Swordfighter
Palutena
Bowser Jr.
Rosalina
Bayonetta
Inklings
Isabelle
Incineroar
Piranha Plant
Min Min
Chrom (Echo)
Richter (Echo)
Dark Samus (Echo Fighter)
Daisy (Echo)
Dark Pit (Echo)

Yes my list is OUT THEREEEEE and I don't care lol. Glad we got what we got though.

ssbashworld · Aug 26, 2024

Will come back & edit this post for later games but heres my take for a biased roster that doesnt worry about legal hurdles (although still avoided 4th parties). Is subject to change as i play more games.

					Axel Stone
Paper Boy	Crash Bandicoot	Pete / Farmer	Nights	Pai Chan	Lau Chan

						Joanna Dark	Elvis
Tails	Nights	Pai Chan	Lau Chan	Axel Stone	Beat	Robo & Mobo	Nightmare /Siegfried
Crash Banicoot	Fake Crash	Pete / Farmer	Sara / Farmer	Paper Boy	Ruby Heart	Edward Falcon

/ Wolf Link*		Master Chief	Crash Bandicoot		Pai Chan	Edward Falcon	Nightmare /Siegfried
			Axel Steel	Tails	Lau Chan	Ada Wong	Prince of All Cosmos
	Ryu Hayabusa	Joanna Dark	Paper Boy	Nights	Beat	The Sim	CJ
	Pete the Farmer	Conker	Rampage*	Axel Stone	Robo & Mobo	Zoey Payne	Random

Notes

& Wolf Link work like & did in Brawl
Similarly Rampage works like with you swapping between all 3 main monsters (George, Lizzie, & Ralph)

Cuts

Elvis
Fake Crash
Sara the Farmer
Ruby Heart

					Wolf Link
					Joanna Dark	Conker		Master Chief
	Tails	Nights	Pai Chan	Lau Chan	Axel Stone	Beat	Kiryu Kazuma
Crash Bandicoot	Axel Steel	Paper Boy	George (Solo Rampage)	Nightmare	Siegfried	Prince of All Cosmos	Devil Jin	Pete the Farmer
Edward Falcon	Ada Wong	Dante	The Sim	Zoey Payne	Commander Shepherd	Ryu Hayabusa	Zack (DoA)	Frogger

DLC	Ruby Heart			Fulgore	Raiden (MG)

Cuts

Robo & Mobo
Lizzie
Ralph
CJ

Swaggod7 · Aug 27, 2024

Note: Method of unlock is in Brackets, if no brackets are there, they are in the starting roster
64: Replace

with

and add

Melee: Replace :drmario:

with Paper Mario, add

as an unlockable (play adventure with

in under 20 minutes). SEGA allowed

to be put into the game (have a hi score of 20 in cruel melee like the rumours said).

Brawl: :drmario:

debuted here (complete first 10 events) along with

, add

(Complete 3 Beast carnage event) Remove

Sm4sh: Add :strongbad:

(Complete All Star: Regulars) and Boshi (Complete King/ Battle of the Yoshis)

Ultimate: Add Shadow as an echo to sonic (Play classic as sonic). The DLC is the same

MysticalCatlife · Sep 6, 2024

A possible Smash reboot game roster with an entirely fresh roster (70% first parties + 30% third parties).

Mario:
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Daisy
Spike
Bowser

Mario Spin-offs:
Yoshi
Wario

Donkey Kong:
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong

Zelda:
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf

Metroid:
Samus
Ridley

Kirby:
Kirby
King Dedede
Waddle Dee
Meta Knight

Star Fox:
Fox

Pokémon:
Pikachu
Eevee

F-Zero:
Captain Falcon

Fire Emblem:
Alear (w/previous FE characters as “Emblems”)
Veyle

Kid Icarus:
Pit

Pikmin:
Lisa (that’s the Pikmin 4 protagonist’s default name)

Animal Crossing:
Isabelle
Tom Nook

Splatoon:
Inkling
Octoling

Famicom Detective Club:
Ayumi

Murasame Castle:
Takamaru

New Nintendo IP

Others:
Mii (Brawler)

Third Parties:
SEGA: Sonic, Bayonetta
Capcom: Mega Man, Ryu
Namco: Pac-Man, Kazuya, Lloyd
Square: Cloud, Sora
Konami: Bomberman
SNK: Terry
Microsoft: Steve
Ubisoft: Rayman
Activision: Crash
Indies: Shovel Knight

SharkLord · Sep 19, 2024

I already posted this in the main thread, but it's a slow day and a rather inactive period on the 'boards, so I might as well repost it here

I had previously set up an experimental Switch-centric roster, then went back and slowly added more veterans and long-standing old requests, then went and streamlined that concept down further. Here's my personal ideal roster for a late Switch/early Switch 2 Smash game. A hard limit of 60 full fighters, plus ten Echo fighters. Not counting Mario and his countless spinoff series, every represented series was paired down to only four characters max, plus Echo fighters. The roster's meant to be mostly first-party centric, but I still wanted to preserve some degree of third-party presence.

Also of note is that Echo Fighters are meant to have a bit more freedom in their movesets, but are still using the same general framework and mvoeset as their bases. Also, Zelda's meant to be based on Echoes of Wisdom, but there wasn't a non-chibi design to use, and tiny toy Zelda would stick out like a sore thumb. Marina has Pearl assisting her throughout her moveset, so you don't have to ask where Pearl is. And I needed exactly ten Echoes or the roster wouldn't be a perfect rectangle, so I threw in Sylux and Blood Falcon.

~~Also I genuinely forgot the Miis so let's just pretend there's a detailed character creator off-screen that includes the Miis~~

Create the Smash Roster, but 100% bias!

Smash Legend

Cosmic God

Smash Master

AKA nirvanafan

Smash Lord

Smash Legend

Yoshi is Thicc in S P I R I T

AKA nirvanafan

Smash Champion

Smash Legend

Smash Legend

Smash Master

Deleted member

Guest

Smash Lord

Smash Legend

Smash Legend

Smash Journeyman

AKA nirvanafan

Smash Legend

Smash Legend

Upward and Forward, Positive and Persistent

AKA nirvanafan

Smash Rookie

Smash Cadet

Smash Hero

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