wtf? first of all, we're talking about how one spends their free time. being engaged by art is one way that one can choose to spend their free time. playing competitive games is another, but i wouldn't consider it being engaged by art. the overlap is in intellectual stimulation, where I find I get a hell of a lot more from vidjo games than TV, but they're still distinctly different types of activities. and so we've now somehow gotten to you talking about how much better your apples are than my oranges.
"getting better at games, which is about the most limited form of intellectual stimulation ever, because it ends when the game is turned off"
this right here pretty much sums up why the argument is going to be fruitless because this couldn't be farther from the truth for me. thinking about games and how they work and why I won or lost accounts for a huge portion of why I enjoy gaming. maybe you just stop thinking about it when you turn it off or pack the board game up, but I continue to think about it and it's very intellectually stimulating to me for long periods of time after the game is long since packed up. maybe you do the same thing with lost, thinking about the characters and story and subtexts and speculating where it will go from there and that's all very stimulating to you, but just because a show can give you that sort of stimulation and games do not doesn't mean it's the same for everyone.
perhaps you're right brain dominated and creative and emotional stimulation are what really get you going and I'm left brain dominated and analytical and problem solving situations are what butter my biscuit.
I dunno, it's just becoming more and more apparent that the way we experience games and TV are vastly different and that's the root of this whole difference of opinions.
yes, we clearly experience these activities in very different ways.
I was just being a prick and mirroring what you were saying
, I don't think you'd actually enjoy the games I enjoy because of the sort of time commitment they demand. League of Legends is my flavor of the past 4-5 months for whatever it's worth.