SleepyK
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it's really not that complicated. it just takes some practice.
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S l o X
Smash Champion
so i did amazingly bad at p4
pls dont judge ):
give me a few months ill be top 10 ct
oh and **** slox
- Zions
pls dont judge ):
give me a few months ill be top 10 ct
oh and **** slox
- Zions
Banks
Smash Hero
well i'm trying to learn sf4 which looks slower and easier and i'm still pretty bad ...
one day i'll be a world warrior!
one day i'll be a world warrior!
it's like learning a bunch of BnB combos, but they're really long
Banks
Smash Hero
i seem to remember you doing some 0-death ryu combo when you brought the japanese version over, that was pretty rad
thumbswayup
Smash Master
**** straight!!
awsmsean
Smash Ace
tehe, luigi ***** the ice climbers.
HollaAtchaBoy
Smash Master
Funny, my lady is at NVCC as well.
I fully intend on going to it.
I saw him at Toad's a couple years ago, and though it was a tight concert I was a little upset because EVERYONE there were a bunch of spoiled hipster-wannabe suburban high-schoolers. I may very well have been the oldest person in the crowd that wasn't a parent. That's right, I said parent. No johns.
Banging show, though. Greg knows how to rock a show.
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
Yeah, but Sandra would have to pay OOS tuition meaning she can only afford to take 1 or 2 classes at a time -_-. So, she'd be mid-sophmore year at best by the time I graduate.
In other news, I'm signing out of Sandra's problems. Meaning I may or may not use my birthday money on a second graphics card for Isis instead of whatever I may spend it on with Sandra.
Or something.
-DD
HollaAtchaBoy
Smash Master
Or! Or!
Or you could throw a smashfest?
Or you could throw a smashfest?
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
LOL if people wanna trek to WPI for a smashfest, I'd be willing to hold one.
Would have a severe need for SetUps though.
-DD
HollaAtchaBoy
Smash Master
I really like that buy-back tourney idea. Great for guys like me who don't stand a chance against people who suck terribly like Thumbs and Toasty. ^_^
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
WOW.
Never-closing-venue? Sounds amazing.
****. I may go to this.
MAYBE.
I like FL.
-DD
SwiftBass
Smash Hero
I went to the local diner and ordered a cheese steak and expected it to be at least half as good as the cheese steak that I had in Philly on the way to pound.(big mistake).
wow big tourneys coming up this summer.
can't wait.
wow big tourneys coming up this summer.
can't wait.
trademark0013
Smash Champion
FL seems beast, but if Genesis 2 happens......
thumbswayup
Smash Master
Chum
Smash Apprentice
**** its like when ever I'm home in CT the tournaments are in Florida like 45 minutes away from where my school is >.>
SwiftBass
Smash Hero
yea genesis 2 is kinda top priority in my book. I wanna see what cali is like. mad *****es mad sunny mad gay. sounds like my kinda place.
def tryin to hit all 3 of the big ones. VGbootcamp will probly have a large one too. plus cata.
skins
Smash Rookie
thumbswayup
Smash Master
God****it Mike I ****ing knew you'd put that here
pockyD
Smash Legend
SwiftBass
Smash Hero
get ***** me
trademark0013
Smash Champion
lol wheres that pic from?
and yea same here swift, the priority part. tho apex is in nj iirc and that tops all cuz tis right there
and yea same here swift, the priority part. tho apex is in nj iirc and that tops all cuz tis right there
prog
Priest of the Temple of Syrinx
also, pizza steaks>cheesesteaks.
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
Cat Fight
Smash Lord
I got accused of **** today. KeWl.
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
*o* That's a pretty original birthday present! Thanks Wes!
-DD
Cort
Apple Head
wha t
P. O. F.
Smash Ace
That Falcos not the second best character in the game and your evidence is ***. "Scar gets beat by random Falcos." Cool. That's one person. Does Hax? Dark Rain? SS?
Prove your points.
News Flash: The best Marth player in the world gets beat by Jigs (Hbox, MaNg0) and Peach (Armada twice) so we all must be wrong and Marth gets ***** by peach and jigs. I mean hes the best Marth in the world and its TOURNAMENT so we're all wrong.
You can't just use tournies to create a tier list or an opinion. You need to factor in other things as well. If that is your argument than Sagat must be mid or high tier at best in Street Fighter 4 and Jigs is top tier. Good stuff.
If Falcos the best character in the game....
Why doesn't M2K use Falco VS Jigs and Peach? (Two match ups which I said are easily easier for Fox)
Why does DaShizwiz Always switch to Fox when he plays Hbox? (A top 3 Falco player)
Why are there more Fox players than Falcos? Pretty sure people are tier ***s and like to use the best character. (Fox's are EVERYWHERE and were at pound 4!!!!
J Wolf, Swift, Hazzard, Replicate, Kels, Lovage, Remen, Cactus,...he beat Scar. M2K, Lozr, Silent Wolf, Lucky, (He beat Dr. PP after a FOUR STOCK.) So many more dominant Fox's in the community than Falcos. ****ing PC Chris even switched to Fox!
Why has Fox been top tier for over 2 and a half years?
Why do more people complain about Fox than Falco?
Why is EVERY match up as Fox the EXACT SAME THING?
A la Sagat in SF IV, Mileena in MK II, Chun in SF 3rd strike, V-13 in Blaz Blue, Steve Fox in Tekken 6, Meta Knight in Brawl, and Pikachu in smash 64.
God tiers aren't god tiers because they are difficult to play...they are god tiers because they are stupid good and ridiculously easy to win with once you understand them as a character. Is Snake hard? Is MK hard? Is Falcon in Smash 64 hard? Is Sagat hard? Is Ken in Sf 3rd strike hard? Are the Boston Celtics hard to use? Are the West All Stars? Is Pikachu in smash 64?
Fox is an easier character to learn than Falco.
-Worse recovery
-Relies on combos.
Two things Fox doesn't have to worry about. Falco does pretty combos and insane cool stuff and imo is the best character to watch aside from marth (I'm biased with that, I admit.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDW0ZnZxjn4
I just find it hilarious how none of you even debate or say anything and you all just say dumb crap because you're trying to sound cool on the boards. High school? I had a good time there too.
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
USmash v. Floaties > Anything Falco does against then.
M2k takes the greatest advantage he can get.
But thats a match up thing. Mewtwo has a good MU against Fox. Better than his Falco MU. Does that hurt Fox's credibility? *shrug*
None of them really survive a pointblank shadowball to the face though.
And its p.cool being 19 today guys.
-DD
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
LOL WHAT?
Wowww.
I have no idea.
We should hang out though.
I don't get out of class until 4 though.
-DD
P. O. F.
Smash Ace
Taj thinks its Fox...... I may be wrong though.
It's definitely Fox or Falco though.
Happy Bday man.
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
>_> Oh, no, Fox going all-offense wrecks Mewtwo worse than any other matchup. But most foxes going all offense miss something and get hardcore punished for it by Mewtwo. Falco is just annoying, because spamming lasers and playing defensive will hurt Mewtwo so bad with his little to no recovery options, which means you gotta play all mind-gamey and if Falco doesn't get off his defensive junk Mewtwo is just like lolidie. Plus If its any stage other than FD, Falco can combo Mewtwo SOOOO hard, and can shine Mewtwo off the top on YS/BF at like, 70/90%.
:D and thanks!~
If people want to drop by on Sunday or Friday or just next weekend whenever I can get you guys free food and junk and stuff and we can play and make my roommate a better Samus and stuff. :3
-DD
P. O. F.
Smash Ace
Yeah, I can see that. Most Mewtwos would easily ban YS tho. It's his worst neu obviously. Taj teleports out of combos though...hes so good w him. I wish someone had my matches VS him saved....he made my marth look like a ******** one armed 1st grader.
I might stop by....if I don't have work. Where you in school again?
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
Teleport is Mewtwo's godsend. Against Fox I can teleport out of anything that isn't a waveshine->move, as long as I apply the right DI.
Problem with doing that against Falcos is that he'll just SHL over to where you land and FSmash you and you'll feel stupid. T-T;;
As for school:
Worcester, MA.
If you were to leave from your house, I'd imagine you'd PROBABLY take 95->84->MassPike...so pick up Marc or something on the way if he isn't busy. Otherwise you're taking 95->395(695?)->Here. Either way its probably close to 1.5 hours of driving. Lemme know if/when you're dropping by, I'll try to get Yedi over :3.
-DD
SleepyK
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i'm not directly disagreeing with you, pof, since i firmly believe there is plenty of room in the tier list for things to change around. i'm just kind of perusing your argument that you've presented here.
maybe because fox's metagame is highly advanced and he can do cool combos, more people are attracted to him. abundance is not indicative of a tier placing. perhaps if you had mentioned that cactuar switched mains from marth to fox (and started performing better) it would have been a more solid argument. also m2k is kind of iffy since he uses three characters.
i will agree that falco was fairly underrepresented at pound.
from my experience:
"everyone i know in GA complains about falco omg more people complain about falco"
unnecessary and irrelevant.
is every fox matchup the exact same thing? no. you don't play fox and i'm assuming this is an uneducated statement that comes from your lack of understanding of fox's nuances. i certainly don't understand fox, but i can understand enough to tell that this is clearly just wrong.
ex) "omg every marth matchup is exactly the same dd camp for grab then just fair a bunch"
uneducated and wrong, but it sure sounds like a good basic summary for someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.
yes, all those characters are hard at top levels of play. even sagat mcbrokenpants, as evidenced by him... oh, i dunno, not winning every single tournament.. as you mentioned? shouldn't he be mid or high tier at best? no wait, you said it's purely based on ease of use.. so, if sagat is so easy to win with, he should be winning every tournament... but wait...
this definition of how tiers are made is very confusing.
you kind of have a good point but the way you chose to represent it is flawed and confusing. especially since it rides really hard on the assumption that X character isn't "hard" to use.
which is biased. and wrong.
"Marth is an easier character to learn than falco."
my evidence? i main falco and i was able to successfully pick up marth and perform fairly well with him much more quickly than i was able to learn falco!
this of course is disregarding my learning of the game's mechanics and technical requirements through falco. i mean, marth must be easier to learn since i was able to learn faster after i became experienced and understood the game!
it's opinions like this that strengthen the existence of the melee back room and why they pick people with histories of intelligent posts and high levels of skill to decide things like the tier list.
reliance on connecting hits? say it isn't so! no character in melee should be concerned with landing successive strings of moves, especially those that are guaranteed!
isn't fox dead offstage anyway?
this reminds me of that pokemon news reporter thing where you pick a phrase to be cool and it's instantly cool. someone i know chose "tight rear" lo--
wait nvm pokemon isn't cool fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
tbh falcon-falco is a tough matchup for falcon. just saying. i haven't read mogwai's posts but if that's his argument it suuuure is a flimsy one.
this is kind of a hard assumption to go by since m2k is really the only good marth player and his entire playstyle is sort of limited by what he understands. if he can't practice against it. he has trouble understanding how to beat it. not knocking all the other good marths, he's pretty much the only one who can compete at top level.
wait this sort of contradicts above statement what
this doesn't really make sense. it's also fairly common knowledge that falco has trouble vs those characters. whiiich makes him not the best character in the game if he has matchups that aren't always in his favor. marth has... one matchup that isn't in his favor. wouldn't that put him above falco? oh wait, there are "other things" i need to factor in first. ok.
i'm not sure where to put this one. also, IT'S TWO PLAYERS OMG. should have brought up zhu. he switches to fox. i think the only exception to switching is lambchops but he hasn't been performing well so i guess it's irrelevant.
the tier whores thing is irrelevant. what does pc switching to fox have to do with anything? maybe he just liked fox more?
maybe because fox's metagame is highly advanced and he can do cool combos, more people are attracted to him. abundance is not indicative of a tier placing. perhaps if you had mentioned that cactuar switched mains from marth to fox (and started performing better) it would have been a more solid argument. also m2k is kind of iffy since he uses three characters.
i will agree that falco was fairly underrepresented at pound.
2nd one is probably just based on your personal experience.
from my experience:
"everyone i know in GA complains about falco omg more people complain about falco"
unnecessary and irrelevant.
is every fox matchup the exact same thing? no. you don't play fox and i'm assuming this is an uneducated statement that comes from your lack of understanding of fox's nuances. i certainly don't understand fox, but i can understand enough to tell that this is clearly just wrong.
ex) "omg every marth matchup is exactly the same dd camp for grab then just fair a bunch"
uneducated and wrong, but it sure sounds like a good basic summary for someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.
i really don't understand what you're getting at. you seem to have a fluid definition of how tiers are created that changes in accordance with your argument. top tiers are at first, tournament based. then they are "based on other factors" and now you seem to only have one factor - ease of use to win with? that's not how tier lists are made and it's also a flawed argument.
yes, all those characters are hard at top levels of play. even sagat mcbrokenpants, as evidenced by him... oh, i dunno, not winning every single tournament.. as you mentioned? shouldn't he be mid or high tier at best? no wait, you said it's purely based on ease of use.. so, if sagat is so easy to win with, he should be winning every tournament... but wait...
this definition of how tiers are made is very confusing.
you kind of have a good point but the way you chose to represent it is flawed and confusing. especially since it rides really hard on the assumption that X character isn't "hard" to use.
which is biased. and wrong.
how do you judge rate of learning? how well someone performs after picking up a character? "fox is an easier character to learn than falco" is really just stating your opinion.
"Marth is an easier character to learn than falco."
my evidence? i main falco and i was able to successfully pick up marth and perform fairly well with him much more quickly than i was able to learn falco!
this of course is disregarding my learning of the game's mechanics and technical requirements through falco. i mean, marth must be easier to learn since i was able to learn faster after i became experienced and understood the game!
it's opinions like this that strengthen the existence of the melee back room and why they pick people with histories of intelligent posts and high levels of skill to decide things like the tier list.
reliance on connecting hits? say it isn't so! no character in melee should be concerned with landing successive strings of moves, especially those that are guaranteed!
isn't fox dead offstage anyway?
yes, we are all laughing and trying to sound cool.
this reminds me of that pokemon news reporter thing where you pick a phrase to be cool and it's instantly cool. someone i know chose "tight rear" lo--
wait nvm pokemon isn't cool fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu