Congratulations, Min Min! ARMS character(s) for Smash discussion

[Handy Man]

How good do you think MinMin would be in more competitive Smash?

I think rushdown characters will destroy Min Min. The hardest part about the matchup will probably be challenging Min Min’s range, but some characters like Roy and Yoshi have great airspeeds and could hop over her ARMS. She would also have a hard time against characters who could challenge her tether recovery, and she may be easy to juggle. Min Min could potentially beat lower tier characters though, due to her range and three ARMS types being able to chip and kill heavies and characters with bad mobility, like Byleth and Zelda. Overall, Min Min would probably be in mid tier. She would definitely not be bad, but she wouldn’t exactly fit in with Ultimate’s aggressive, combo oriented meta.

 

[SharkLord]

My disappointment over Spring Man not getting in has worn off a bit. But I'll NEVER get over the icon they decided to use for the ARMS series.

Smash Team: "Hmm. I wonder what we should use for the ARMS series symbol? Should we use the ARMS League symbol that's plastered over pretty much everything in the game including the stage we're using? Or some generic fist that's sometimes used in some promotional material?"

I've seen some arguments that it's a bit too cluttered for a logo, and I can understand that. Most logos are flat and single-color, whereas the ARMS League symbol would have lines all over the place and might be a little distracting.

 

[GolisoPower]

I've seen some arguments that it's a bit too cluttered for a logo, and I can understand that. Most logos are flat and single-color, whereas the ARMS League symbol would have lines all over the place and might be a little distracting.

I mean, details in Smash symbols don't seem to be the issue here. Just look at Earthbound/Mother and Castlevania. I can understand why they used what they used, though.

 

[meleebrawler]

Not to mention, what if they decide to replace or just not use the ARMS League in the next game?

 

[smashkirby]

I really don't think this is going to be a case like Morrigan in Darkstalkers. But more like Nakoruru in Smaurai Showdown. Nakoruru is the popular one and the one who appears in crossovers but in her home series she shares the spotlight with Haohmaru.

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People get this idea that there can be only one. It's either Spring Man or Min Min. But forget that ARMS started off with Spring Man and Ribbon Girl. The ARMS team still sees Spring Man as important and he's Yabuki's second favorite. The title "Spring Man" is important in ARMS lore. I highly doubt they're going to demote Spring Man. Instead they're going promote Min Min to where he is. It's probably Ribbon Girl who's going to be demoted more than anything.

This right here is EXACTLY how I feel about ARMS' current situation. I heard a similar comparison in regards to Tom Nook (Spring Man) and Isabelle (Min Min), but Haohmaru and Nakoruru (being fighting game characters) probably work better as an example.

If anything, not only will Spring Man still be kept around as the mascot of the game/series going forward, but Min Min will simply be elevated to his level.

As you've said Koopaul , if ANYONE is going to lose their 'mascot' status from here on out, it's most likely going to be Ribbon Girl.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

People forgets though Smash has a thing of making characters or franchises more popular. How else did Fire Emblem reach its popularity in the west? Also why Captain Falcon is so popular to the point he's an meme. Smash (Which Captain Falcon is considered an face of at this point) of course, being Min Min is an playable character over Spring Man makes me still lean towards the Morrigan comparison with Spring Man becoming Demitri.

And reminder ARMS is an young IP, not one that's 30+ years like Street Fighter or Fatal Fury so things could change to that.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

How else did Fire Emblem reach its popularity in the west?

The FE franchise actually didn't do that great until Awakening, iirc. To the point where Awakening was actually intended to be the grand finale of the series.

And that game just had a lot of things lining up for it, such as actually having a marketing budget and having a free demo.

Smash didn't help at all when it comes to Awakening's success and Fire Emblem's second wind.

And reminder ARMS is an young IP, not one that's 30+ years like Street Fighter or Fatal Fury so things could change to that.

Aren't you the same user who kept on saying it had to be Spring Man because "protagonist first"?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Aren't you the same user who kept on saying it had to be Spring Man because "protagonist first"?

And I confess I was wrong.

 

[Mariomaniac45213]

People forgets though Smash has a thing of making characters or franchises more popular. How else did Fire Emblem reach its popularity in the west? Also why Captain Falcon is so popular to the point he's an meme. Smash (Which Captain Falcon is considered an face of at this point) of course, being Min Min is an playable character over Spring Man makes me still lean towards the Morrigan comparison with Spring Man becoming Demitri.

And reminder ARMS is an young IP, not one that's 30+ years like Street Fighter or Fatal Fury so things could change to that.

By that logic that better mean is here to stay and remain in the DK franchise to the end of time (and also appear in more Mario spin-offs from time to time). No longer being replaced by flying pieces of wood, evil apes, or blatant Walrus knockoffs.

 

[NintenRob]

My disappointment over Spring Man not getting in has worn off a bit. But I'll NEVER get over the icon they decided to use for the ARMS series.

Smash Team: "Hmm. I wonder what we should use for the ARMS series symbol? Should we use the ARMS League symbol that's plastered over pretty much everything in the game including the stage we're using? Or some generic fist that's sometimes used in some promotional material?"

You mean that generic fist actually existed before now? I didn't know that.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I love your new avatar KirbyWorshipper2465 , it's your best one yet.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

You mean that generic fist actually existed before now? I didn't know that.

Yeah I'd love to see where if that's the case.

 

[Chaosmaster8753]

I really don't think this is going to be a case like Morrigan in Darkstalkers. But more like Nakoruru in Smaurai Showdown. Nakoruru is the popular one and the one who appears in crossovers but in her home series she shares the spotlight with Haohmaru.

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Hell, even Smash Ultimate gave Nakoruru the major Samurai Showdown spotlight during Terry's reveal trailer on top of her getting a Mii Fighter costume and theme music arrangement. On the other hand, Haohmaru's still got his poster boy status for SamSho unlike Dimitri for Darkstalkers.

 

[fogbadge]

hmm if spring man isnt on the cover of arms 2 a lot of people are gonna lose it

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Hell, even Smash Ultimate gave Nakoruru the major Samurai Showdown spotlight during Terry's reveal trailer on top of her getting a Mii Fighter costume and theme music arrangement.

Thanks for reminding me the absolute banger that is the Banquet of Nature remix.

It's so good!

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but since everyone is Yabuki's baby, wouldn't the focus simply change to whoever he wants to pay attention most that day?

Even the goddamn randomly revived mummy is a main character to him.

 

[ThatRedPlumber]

hmm if spring man isnt on the cover of arms 2 a lot of people are gonna lose it

I could honestly see Min Min being the focus of ARMS 2, both on the cover and in early trailers.

 

[Aetheri]

Arms is more of an ensemble cast

Even the goddamn randomly revived mummy is a main character to him.

Oi! You got a problem with Master Mummy!?

He may be half dead but that don't mean he got no feelings...

 

[Michael the Spikester]

By that logic that better mean is here to stay and remain in the DK franchise to the end of time (and also appear in more Mario spin-offs from time to time). No longer being replaced by flying pieces of wood, evil apes, or blatant Walrus knockoffs.

Except given King K. Rool's popularity clearly having been one of the most demanded characters for Smash and getting added due to it. I'm suspecting that King K. Rool is gonna start becoming relevant again in future Donkey Kong games and Mario spin-offs.

I don't get the comparison here and its a pretty bad one I must say.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I think rushdown characters will destroy Min Min. The hardest part about the matchup will probably be challenging Min Min’s range, but some characters like Roy and Yoshi have great airspeeds and could hop over her ARMS. She would also have a hard time against characters who could challenge her tether recovery, and she may be easy to juggle. Min Min could potentially beat lower tier characters though, due to her range and three ARMS types being able to chip and kill heavies and characters with bad mobility, like Byleth and Zelda. Overall, Min Min would probably be in mid tier. She would definitely not be bad, but she wouldn’t exactly fit in with Ultimate’s aggressive, combo oriented meta.

So basically, Min Min will be like Pre-Timeskip Luffy without the Haki and the Gears.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Tbf I am looking forward to the comic so it can explore more of the lore

apparently the ARMS mutation can affect animals too?? Take a look

since everyone is so interested in the ARMS universe now
look at this poor ass dog pic.twitter.com/gatFBqtOUR

— Mlick (@Mlickles) June 27, 2020

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Tbf I am looking forward to the comic so it can explore more of the lore

apparently the ARMS mutation can affect animals too?? Take a look

since everyone is so interested in the ARMS universe now
look at this poor ass dog pic.twitter.com/gatFBqtOUR

— Mlick (@Mlickles) June 27, 2020

That ain't a poor *** dog, it's just Slinky from Toy Story.

 

[Aetheri]

Tbf I am looking forward to the comic so it can explore more of the lore

apparently the ARMS mutation can affect animals too?? Take a look

since everyone is so interested in the ARMS universe now
look at this poor ass dog pic.twitter.com/gatFBqtOUR

— Mlick (@Mlickles) June 27, 2020

Even the tree in the background is affected.

 

[Jomosensual]

Tbf I am looking forward to the comic so it can explore more of the lore

apparently the ARMS mutation can affect animals too?? Take a look

since everyone is so interested in the ARMS universe now
look at this poor ass dog pic.twitter.com/gatFBqtOUR

— Mlick (@Mlickles) June 27, 2020

Thats Slinky from Toy Story. ARMS is 4th party. Goku incoming

 

[Rie Sonomura]

if there are some new concepts I'd like to see included for ARMS 2's potential fighters, I can name some:

- someone with film reels for ARMS (inspired by some fanart I saw)
- a senior citizen (60+) developing ARMS in their old age. Kid Cobra was born with it, most others develop it generally early on in life (before age 40) I'd imagine. Master Mummy doesn't count as

Dr. Coyle states in her notes that she preformed experiments on Master Mummy that ultimately lead to his reanimation, as well as his ability to use the ARMS ability. However, he also suffered total memory loss, even after the process.

- someone with vines for ARMS (it was planned according to unused codenames, one called "plant")
- KRAKEN ARMS. shut up it would be awesome

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Thats Slinky from Toy Story. ARMS is 4th party. Goku incoming

OMG!!! GOKU CONFIRMED!!! Or maybe Vegeta since he is on par with Goku in popularity or more as a DBZ character.

KRAKEN ARMS. shut up it would be awesome

Kraken Arms character: (Arms slowly choking Spring Man's neck) Spring Man, tell me do you fear deathA?!

 

[Aetheri]

if there are some new concepts I'd like to see included for ARMS 2's potential fighters, I can name some:

- someone with film reels for ARMS (inspired by some fanart I saw)
- a senior citizen (60+) developing ARMS in their old age. Kid Cobra was born with it, most others develop it generally early on in life (before age 40) I'd imagine. Master Mummy doesn't count as


- someone with vines for ARMS (it was planned according to unused codenames, one called "plant")
- KRAKEN ARMS. shut up it would be awesome

Wizard Scroll Arms.

Slimy Eel Arms

A Wormy boi

Waterhose Firefighter

 

[Perkilator]

if there are some new concepts I'd like to see included for ARMS 2's potential fighters, I can name some:

- someone with film reels for ARMS (inspired by some fanart I saw)
- a senior citizen (60+) developing ARMS in their old age. Kid Cobra was born with it, most others develop it generally early on in life (before age 40) I'd imagine. Master Mummy doesn't count as


- someone with vines for ARMS (it was planned according to unused codenames, one called "plant")
- KRAKEN ARMS. shut up it would be awesome

Maybe combine the senior citizen character and kraken character to make an old sailor captain with kraken ARMS? I was also thinking about a firefighter character.

 

[NOSTARSICK]

Music staff arms! (Bonus if the notes on the arms were the notes for the track playing)

 

[SharkLord]

if there are some new concepts I'd like to see included for ARMS 2's potential fighters, I can name some:

- someone with film reels for ARMS (inspired by some fanart I saw)
- a senior citizen (60+) developing ARMS in their old age. Kid Cobra was born with it, most others develop it generally early on in life (before age 40) I'd imagine. Master Mummy doesn't count as


- someone with vines for ARMS (it was planned according to unused codenames, one called "plant")
- KRAKEN ARMS. shut up it would be awesome

I still think it's a missed opportunity to not have tesla coil ARMS. Maybe that could tie into Mechanica actually developing ARMS, since she's apparently still young enough to develop them.

 

[fogbadge]

Tbf I am looking forward to the comic so it can explore more of the lore

apparently the ARMS mutation can affect animals too?? Take a look

since everyone is so interested in the ARMS universe now
look at this poor ass dog pic.twitter.com/gatFBqtOUR

— Mlick (@Mlickles) June 27, 2020

i believe and one point they confirmed plants can have it too

Wizard Scroll Arms.

Slimy Eel Arms

A Wormy boi

Waterhose Firefighter

love it, love it, love and love it

Maybe combine the senior citizen character and kraken character to make an old sailor captain with kraken ARMS? I was also thinking about a firefighter character.

love it

Music staff arms! (Bonus if the notes on the arms were the notes for the track playing)

love it

 

[Koopaul]

Person in a bear mascot costume with yarn for arms.

A magician with colorful streamers for arms.

A cowboy with ropes for arms.

An opera singer with pearl jewelry for arms.

A surfer with eels for arms.

 

[fogbadge]

Person in a bear mascot costume with yarn for arms.

A magician with colorful streamers for arms.

A cowboy with ropes for arms.

An opera singer with pearl jewelry for arms.

A surfer with eels for arms.

no to the first, yes to the rest

 

[GolisoPower]

A soldier with tank treads for arms. (Which I've said before)

A lumberjack with saw chains for arms.

A medical doctor with IV drips for arms.

A frog-like person whose ARMS ability has developed in their tongue. (Like how Twintelle's developed in her hair)

An armored crusader with royal flags for arms. DEUS VULT

 

[Sniper Maxter]

You mean that generic fist actually existed before now? I didn't know that.

Yeah I'd love to see where if that's the case.

It's an obscure asset they used for the 2017 Japan Grand Prix and I don't believe anywhere else. It's so obscure that I suspect the ARMS dev team actually picked it and handed it over to Sakurai and company themselves.

 

[ThatRedPlumber]

I wonder what they’re going to do for Min Min’s amiibo, it’ll be the first ever ARMS character amiibo. What are they gonna do for the stretchy arms?

 

[Guynamednelson]

I wonder what they’re going to do for Min Min’s amiibo, it’ll be the first ever ARMS character amiibo. What are they gonna do for the stretchy arms?

Clear tubes inside the ARMS.

 

[chocolatejr9]

A frog-like person whose ARMS ability has developed in their tongue. (Like how Twintelle's developed in her hair)

Wait, would they have two tongues or something?

 

[fogbadge]

a gardener with vines? an electrition with cables? a toy maker with slinkys?

A soldier with tank treads for arms. (Which I've said before)

A lumberjack with saw chains for arms.

A medical doctor with IV drips for arms.

A frog-like person whose ARMS ability has developed in their tongue. (Like how Twintelle's developed in her hair)

An armored crusader with royal flags for arms. DEUS VULT

i like all of those bar the frog one, i was actually just thinking of a similar idea to the dr one before i came in here

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Except given King K. Rool's popularity clearly having been one of the most demanded characters for Smash and getting added due to it. I'm suspecting that King K. Rool is gonna start becoming relevant again in future Donkey Kong games and Mario spin-offs.

I don't get the comparison here and its a pretty bad one I must say.

Yeah, it was outright said according to DK Vine that there's been hearsay about the big guys planning things for K. Rool.
https://smashboards.com/threads/news-how-fans-brought-back-k-rool.457451/

Tbf I am looking forward to the comic so it can explore more of the lore

apparently the ARMS mutation can affect animals too?? Take a look

since everyone is so interested in the ARMS universe now
look at this poor ass dog pic.twitter.com/gatFBqtOUR

— Mlick (@Mlickles) June 27, 2020

A release date for it would be nice, first of all. Udon can put out a lot of Street Fighter and Darkstalkers stuff, yet they have trouble working on a tie-in for one little game.