Ok, ive been a strong activist in trying to keep this thread on topic, like the creator wanted, none the less, with my efforts ignored, i will try to clear up this debacle that has arisen.
1) The rumour has apparently* been deemed fake, false, fallacious, whatever your preference of word, not real. This has supposedly* come from the rumour maker.
* I have used terms such as 'apparently' and 'supposedly' because i cannot be bothered to go to the original site that posted the rumour first.
2) The problems with 'WindWaker' Link.
Cel-shading wouldn't work, especially around lots of detailed 3D models of Nintendo's finest. For example, Pit from Brawl, and Ice Climbers from Melee, underwent drastic changes to appearence to fit in with their respective games. If you look at Peach, you'll notice her dress is alot more intricate from any game shes previously been in. Smash Bros. likes to work on a characters wardrobe and appearence, when you return with 'cel-shaded' Link from a trip down-town to buy some new threads and what not, you end up with Young Link with sleeves and trousers beneath his tunic, along with different shield and sword designs. Not to mention, as previously stated by someone else, Cel-shaded characters reflect light in a completely different way to 3D character models, although, i have no doubt that it is possible to mix cel-shaded and 3D somehow. And lets not mention how crap he would look next to all these wonderfully done up people.
Unfortunately, in a narrow sense, the Legend of Zelda: WindWaker was extremely succesful, i myself enjoyed it, although, unlike everyone else, i do not condone a cel-shaded appearence in smash brothers. It worries me that, if there has been enough support for this character Sakurai will throw him in, feed the mob, succomb to their wishes. Society is a dumb nucleus, going with only group mentality, personifying that of a 12 year old boy, giddy that he has the chance to put his 'favey-wavey video game character into a game', this thought-line bullies and diminishes that of the intelligent person, the realist, the person who has respectable ideas of what is a step in the right direction. People dont realize what they are doing, the majority want WindWaker Link because it was the last Zelda they played, its the 'new' look, they've had enough of Ocarina of Time appearences. But they dont realize, before they play Brawl, they will mostly likely play Twilight Princess, which has a very different take on appearence. WindWaker Link will be forgotten, and people will want Twilight Princess .. who has already made an appearence.
For me, the best step is to have just the one Link, dressed from Twilight Princess, with all other legend of zelda character appearences, thats Zelda herself and Ganondorf, following suit. But like i said, crazed crys for the cel-shaded may be enough to brutalize this suggestion out of contention.
3) The removal of the Ice Climbers. A perposterus idea if ever i saw one. Although i have noticed alot of people seem to dislike them, however it might be safe to say these people have played no more then the adventure modes with them. One you realize how your controlling, the Ice Climbers are fun to play, and the mallets are fun and lovingly powerful. One of Ninendo's older cast appearences, a removal would be an unwise decision, with Pit the replacement according the rumour (a point left out by most sites). Why remove a classic character to add another? odd dont you think? would it not be better to have them squaring off against each other in true old school style? for me, its a certain yes. Most people on the 'lower' forums, and sites where comments appear, are quick to jump at the chance of criticizing the fact there are two Ice Climbers makes them hard to play with and nothing but a gimmick, only to suggest, baby mario and baby luigi to step in and make do as the two-characters in one. If Nintendo were to take away one of the most original characters of the series it would be a serious back-step, especially as most replacements are likely to be more generic.
4) Mr. Game & Watch is an icon for Nintendo, his inclusion in melee a shock, but a welcome one none the less. Young gamers have never heard of Mr. Game & Watch, and being only 17 myself, i cant say i have either. But i dont know taking him out would be wrong. The only person stopping Game & Watch being Mr. Nintendo is Mario himself.
It annoys to no end, to know that people are so strongly rooted in what they believe is right, that they then impose that on other people with surprising success. I hope everyone here realizes that Mr. Game & Watch's moves are not all that original. B-moves aside, a closer look is quite reveling, the Up-smash is reminiscent of Luigi's, whilst the black mans dair is not too disimilar from that of Link. His grab, appears to be the exact same as Ness's. Im sure if everyone looked they can find alot more similarities with Mr. Game & Watch's move-set.
5) Marshigio and the mesmerizing booty in his sig have already established that Bowser Jr. would not make a good clone of Bowser, so ill will look at something else. When people hear Bowser Jr. or Baby Bowser they think of Baby Mario and Baby Luigi. However, Bowser Jr. has more merit then those two and is more worthy of a stand alone. Bowser Jr has actually appeared against Mario without Baby Mario (or Baby Luigi) in the game. This of course being Super Mario Sunshine. People should stop associating Bowser Jr. with the baby forms of Mario and Luigi.
I for one, wouldn't mind seeing Bowser Jr. being avaible for Super Smash Bros. Brawl, he looks quite the sprite, reminding me of a feisty scrappy doo.
Right now, thats all i have to say. Hope it told people something, and help them realize that some ideas that have are might not be in the best interests of smash bros. as a whole. I'd like to point out here however, that i am not actaully trying to piss on anyone's parade.
Finally, a rumour is a rumour, and i said in another post how its not actually confirmed, if it were it wouldnt be a rumour etc. so please, and ive asked nicely, do not respond to it as though it has been set in stone.
wtf man?
Ive seen alot of other people use this response in various threads so ill just regurgitate quickly, the only thing that doesnt fit in smash bros. is realistic stuff. you have a highly charged rodent which can only articulate 3 syllables, A plumber with moustache who rescues princess from spiny reptillian kings in his spare time, and pink air bubble ... another pink air bubble, a Fox man and a Bird man who are able to fly space ships, not to mention the giant ape, psychic kid and a sexy bounty hunter.
