Condors, Eggplants, and Chaingrabs~ The NEW Ice Climbers Guide~!

[IxxI]

It depends on how fast they mash their buttons and spin their control stick.

 

[DemonicTrilogy]

Truthfull, I would say you just have to practice it to the point where your chaingrab is as fast as lain's if you are to make it inescapable. Some people are REALLY good at mashing so you have to be prepared for that.

 

[ChamP_SlayZ]

gratz on the guide hopefully we get more ic players. =)

This guide got me. I'm tryin to 2nd ICs now. Good job witht the guide guys keep it up.

 

[swordgard]

I should be the one climbing in canada : ( .

I finally outplaced ambrose XD

 

[LiL.Will]

Wow this guide was very detailed I just decided to quit MK and go to IC's because they're sooo fun but now I just read the match-ups so I have a good Main and secondary can't wait to get seriously good at juggle trapping my opponents its gonna be so aggravating to them.

 

[momochuu]

Yeahhhhh I really need to update this. I'll start working on that now.

 

[r3d d09]

that'd be kind of you Kawaii :D

 

[penguin_and_panda]

Great guide!!! I use the classic controller, u mentioned the difficulty of grabbing with wiimote, wiichuck and the gamecubed. Would is be easy, middle or hard to chaingrab with the classic controller? thanks

 

[r3d d09]

easy - middle. it's kind of the same setup as a GC controller

 

[penguin_and_panda]

How much more detailed do you people want for these CG explanations? Like, it's mostly practice. You tilt to make Nana turn, throw, then re-grab. Just practice[/b]. The chaingrabs aren't easy to learn at all,

I know this message was posted ages ago but it's true. Chain grabs is something you need to practice, theres no quick way out of it.

 

[Riickable]

Defense is as important as Defense?

You might wanna fix that. Nice guide.

 

[lain]

Well guys I placed 2nd (behind Ally) in the MW:East circuit, am currently in 1st in the MW:West circuit, 5th on east coast circuit, and 1st in the Ohio circuit.

=_= I. Love. Circuits.

 

[r3d d09]

... I love you O.o

 

[a male platypus]

Just read through nearly the whole thing and you guys have a very nice topic for telling us IC's noobies how to play I'm impressed.

Also, during the FAQ's isn't Melee1 good enough to be considered one of the best IC's?

 

[lain]

no.

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[swordgard]

Just read through nearly the whole thing and you guys have a very nice topic for telling us IC's noobies how to play I'm impressed.

Also, during the FAQ's isn't Melee1 good enough to be considered one of the best IC's?

He aint placing.

 

[Flamingo]

Ima start playin these guys seriously now.

 

[Cmthomas12]

thx for this post im good at chain grabbing and desyncing now my friends now will never play me at brawl cuz they know ill be ics and they hate me

 

[theunabletable]

This guide is good, but... why no info on pivot grabbing? It can be so useful; I'd expect atleast a mention on this guide.

 

[swordgard]

This guide is good, but... why no info on pivot grabbing? It can be so useful; I'd expect atleast a mention on this guide.

It has not been updated, it will most probably be done soon.

 

[momochuu]

Yeah, I'm kinda in over my head with these threads, lol. x__x;; It'll be updated by the end of the week.

 

[swordgard]

Yeah, I'm kinda in over my head with these threads, lol. x__x;; It'll be updated by the end of the week.

Is it too much to ask to put me with lain and meep i guess in the best ics section?
I did take out a set off ally unlike meep and lain only took 1 match with ics the only set he won vs him while the second set he got 2 stocked with ics. I also place consistently well.
Or will it have to wait till i go out of country(canada lacks tourney T.T) and place in usa?


EDIT: During gaming day at my school friday il be posting some new techs with ics.

 

[lain]

Wow swordgard, I'm just kinda appalled at what you just said ROFL.

FYI, just because you beat Ally in ONE set doesn't mean anything. I've beaten him in multiple sets, along with being M2K. You can't just win a single set, and beg to be "put in the pro group" or something. You don't ASK for that. It comes with placing well and beating lots of people. Asking for it is sad.

Oh, and AFAIK I'm the only person to beat both players (m2k+ally)

 

[o-Serin-o]

IC-wise?

Also, didn't you also use D3 as a Snake secondary at the time?

Otherwise, ADHD says hi.

 

[lain]

Yeah I did use DDD vs Ally. But can you name any DDD that has ever come close to beating him?

 

[CO18]

Yeah I did use DDD vs Ally. But can you name any DDD that has ever come close to beating him?

I think i can.

Also not to start any wars but Ally did say he thinks swordgard would prob be the best ics if he could travel.

Though his CANADIANISM prob makes it a lil biased but it would be interesting nonetheless.

 

[swordgard]

I think i can.

Also not to start any wars but Ally did say he thinks swordgard would prob be the best ics if he could travel.

Though his CANADIANISM prob makes it a lil biased but it would be interesting nonetheless.

True, he might be biased, that il agree its probable.



But otherwise, i have been placing consistantly well over her. I know everyone thinks canada is **** save for ally but it really is not the case. Also, you only beat ally in 1 tourney set if i recall right. Now, here is what ally said: I dont know for other matchups, but you are the best at the snake one.

That is all he said, i dont want to misquote him or anything. I dont mind asking for it, cause otherwise most people would even forget its in that guide. Not only that, but i am consistently improving so far in an environment which constitutes only of the worst of ics matchups (rob+snakes >.<!). Now I know you still think you would own holynightmare which is why you see my matches vs him as pretty much irrelevant but fact is you have not played him in a long time. I beat ally recently, you have not done it in a long time(not since lucario is pawsome). I have been placing consistently well. I have no trouble with claiming i am probably on the pro level. I went to ontario, losing only to holy there twice. Wont happen anymore though ^.^, have not lost to him this tourney nor the one before.

 

[CO18]

Actually I was referring to a different post he made lol

 

[swordgard]

Actually I was referring to a different post he made lol

Backroom i suppose T.T


Why do i have melee backroom and not brawl XD

 

[CO18]

Are you supposed to be in the brawl backroom? lol was it a mistake?

 

[swordgard]

Are you supposed to be in the brawl backroom? lol was it a mistake?

No its simply super ironic cause i got into melee back room for my anti ban argument and demolishing many of praxis/chibo sempais ban argument for the MK discussion, due to my reasonning abilities while i really sucks at melee(but have been so far able to theorize well enough to not look stupid in the backroom due to knowledge of mechanics). On the other hand, i got recommended into brawl back room by a couple of people, have placings and i know how to play the game, advanced ics metagame, but am not in it >.<

 

[Sieguest]

No its simply super ironic cause i got into melee back room for my anti ban argument and demolishing many of praxis/chibo sempais ban argument for the MK discussion, due to my reasonning abilities while i really sucks at melee(but have been so far able to theorize well enough to not look stupid in the backroom due to knowledge of mechanics). On the other hand, i got recommended into brawl back room by a couple of people, have placings and i know how to play the game, advanced ics metagame, but am not in it >.<

I'm not gonna lie, that's too funny, too good Swordgard.

 

[swordgard]

I'm not gonna lie, that's too funny, too good Swordgard.

I know XD, and whats worst is some legitimate player in melee in canada were pissed at me getting in there before them because i suck at the game lmao.

 

[momochuu]

You mind taking this to the social thread or whatever?

 

[swordgard]

Sorry, i did not expect a huge debate >.<.

 

[Berserker.]

A stall and fall move where the Ice Climbers drop down quickly with their hammers.
Damage: 13%
Range: Crap

I don't get why teasing the character's worst move is so funny

 

[jameschen0]

Great guide; however, I'd like to ask/question two things:
1. How exactly is the wiichuck set-up harder than the GC controller set-up for chaingrabs? Although it is difficult if you change the D-pad to smashes or something of the sort, D-pad-right/left is a grab button. As attacking with the A-button is not required for chaingrabs (besides finishing, which is plausible with the wiichuck, as you can finish in the same fashion as with the gamecube controller), nor is it required for hobbling (as both of the B and C buttons are not affected by the finger on the D-pad).
2. Just wondering, but shouldn't the D-throw>Jump>Forward aerial be labeled as a chaingrab? Even though it only works for about 3 throws, shouldn't it still be included, as it usually racks up damage faster than the other chaingrabs? Also, shouldn't it be labeled as a finisher as well, since it can kill before the up-smash on final destination near the edge?
Just curious, as I think that type of chaingrab is easier to master than the d/b/f-throw chaingrabs; feel free to disregard this comment.

 

[Berserker.]

1.) Duh, no c-stick which is harder to smash, wiichuk D-pad is somewhat hard to press compared to the Z button of GC and if this is wrong.

GC is easier nuff said

 

[Smasher89]

Wiichuck= wireless=frame loss(takes time for the game to react from when you pressed the buttons)=frame advantage for the opponent=even harder to time and grab


That is one reason why a GCcontroller is clearly superior to use...

 

[momochuu]

I'm gonna skim over this tonight and fix some stuff up.