...Let's just forget it. I'm too tired to explain it.
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Compilation of New Techniques/Discoveries (Updated 3.17.08)
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Damax
Smash Lord
jdub03
Smash Journeyman
Why are samus' missile cancels in confirmed techniques. We've seen no video evidence. Only someone claiming its in. Can we get some vids of that before you put it in as an A-T? Can somone video comfirm her missile cancels?
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Dmbrandon wasnt it you who claimed it was still in? Care to elaborate on that?
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Dmbrandon wasnt it you who claimed it was still in? Care to elaborate on that?
SinisterLizard
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I honestly think we should wait until the game is released in America before making such a list. Just my two cents.
Warlock*G
Banned via Warnings
Don't know if this has been posted already, but "motor mouth" has been debunked. There is apparently no relation between eating items and the Wario Waft.
shortwanabelaker
Smash Journeyman
most of these arent advanced at all.. just like edge hogging in the last one wasnt advanced.. its just obvious things to do
Vegeta214
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this will be useful: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=143261
Dark Sonic
Smash Hero
Well actually, rolling onto the stage in order to edgehog someone wasn't the most intuitive of techniques. Common logic would state that when you get of the ledge you actually allow the other person to grab it. How many other people would've figured out that you're technically considered on the ledge when you're rolling/attacking/getting up, but not jumping?
Witchking_of_Angmar
Smash Lord
This might be sorta hard to test, but since you can roll out of king dedede's chaingrab, can the characters with fast jabs escape by jabbing DDD?
In Melee, it would work for sure (b/c jab for fox/shiek/other chars comes out on frame 3, same frame that roll becomes invincible for most chars), but what about Brawl?
I think it would depend on these factors:
-How fast does the jab come out?
-How fast can you roll after jabbing (maybe w/ jab cancelling if it's in)?
-If DDD does a shielding slide grab, does jab give enough shieldstun to safely roll away?
Obviously this will be hard to test, and nothing definite (since there isn't a wii AR yet), but a general answer/assumption would be nice.
In Melee, it would work for sure (b/c jab for fox/shiek/other chars comes out on frame 3, same frame that roll becomes invincible for most chars), but what about Brawl?
I think it would depend on these factors:
-How fast does the jab come out?
-How fast can you roll after jabbing (maybe w/ jab cancelling if it's in)?
-If DDD does a shielding slide grab, does jab give enough shieldstun to safely roll away?
Obviously this will be hard to test, and nothing definite (since there isn't a wii AR yet), but a general answer/assumption would be nice.
icraq
Smash Lord
The New Wavedash:
The CraqWalk.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VmxHhy6JJJE
Brief description:
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=143261
Also included is Marth's Bair trick, discovered by Deva.
The CraqWalk.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VmxHhy6JJJE
Brief description:
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=143261
Also included is Marth's Bair trick, discovered by Deva.
SonicZeroX
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That's pretty cool, plus it looks much easier to do that the old waveland.
jdub03
Smash Journeyman
Might be pretty useful except its a little too much to do. Can you do this with everyones back air?
icraq
Smash Lord
no, toon link's works
not sure who else's besides marth
oh, luigi and mario
maybe other floatier types
jdub03
Smash Journeyman
What about peach?
Doomgaze
Smash Apprentice
A note about dash cancelling..
If you dash and press the shield button, the dash will cancel but the momentum carries you slightly forward. This is mentioned in the sticky, as you can grab out of a dash. What is not mentioned is that you can perform any attack after pressing shield quickly, like a downsmash or jab. It's faster than waiting for the running animation to finish.
If you dash and press the shield button, the dash will cancel but the momentum carries you slightly forward. This is mentioned in the sticky, as you can grab out of a dash. What is not mentioned is that you can perform any attack after pressing shield quickly, like a downsmash or jab. It's faster than waiting for the running animation to finish.
icraq
Smash Lord
her bair might work for this, I'll try it out later tonight and tell you what happens.
Bair to slide to dsmash might work lower percentages
Dark.Pch
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I like to add something that I have found out while touching the game with Peach.
The first then I found out that Peach has somewhat of a wavedash. kinda. Her Second jump does not really send here anywhere. She kinda stays in place. So I While Jumping I air dodge ether down left or down right. She slighty moves in that direction and faces in that direction too. and she shield sightly comes up. So you run and then soon as you sump, Hit L-or R and aim for the stage. she stops nearly dead in her tracks.
another thing I found out I is that you can use her second jump for a quick stop and move in a direction you want. I think she slides a lil too. All you do is Jump, then tap the button again really quick and aim in the spot you wanna move. I guess it can be somewhat Double jump cancel but not really cause her Second jump has no height.. So when you use her second Jump you stay in place so tap it fast and then aim the stick in the direction you wanna move.
Last thing I found out is that Peach can somewhat pillar. You Instant float, Nair and land and repeat. Her N-air does not have much lag. and you can pillar like fight on the floor like if you was standing since her second jump really does nothing. So not to be close to the floor you have to time your first then instand float to a Nair, land and repeat. But if you Instant float right while you are on the floor and Pillar its alot more faster.
I'll have vids or doing these things to show how its done. I think its quite useful in my opinion for mindgames and making peach faster.
The first then I found out that Peach has somewhat of a wavedash. kinda. Her Second jump does not really send here anywhere. She kinda stays in place. So I While Jumping I air dodge ether down left or down right. She slighty moves in that direction and faces in that direction too. and she shield sightly comes up. So you run and then soon as you sump, Hit L-or R and aim for the stage. she stops nearly dead in her tracks.
another thing I found out I is that you can use her second jump for a quick stop and move in a direction you want. I think she slides a lil too. All you do is Jump, then tap the button again really quick and aim in the spot you wanna move. I guess it can be somewhat Double jump cancel but not really cause her Second jump has no height.. So when you use her second Jump you stay in place so tap it fast and then aim the stick in the direction you wanna move.
Last thing I found out is that Peach can somewhat pillar. You Instant float, Nair and land and repeat. Her N-air does not have much lag. and you can pillar like fight on the floor like if you was standing since her second jump really does nothing. So not to be close to the floor you have to time your first then instand float to a Nair, land and repeat. But if you Instant float right while you are on the floor and Pillar its alot more faster.
I'll have vids or doing these things to show how its done. I think its quite useful in my opinion for mindgames and making peach faster.
omegablackmage
Certified Lion Rider
no your wrong you can't do it with sonic
I.T.P
Smash Ace
that "craqwalk" is seriously stupid, It's no diffrent than doing an L canceled aerial in Melee and the moving forward, but because of the 0 lag aerials in brawl you don't need to L cancel that.
I've been using this with most 0 lag aerials since day 1, especially with squirtle, this is so obvious calling it an advanced technique, and naming it with your nick, is just sickeningly attention whoring.
I've been using this with most 0 lag aerials since day 1, especially with squirtle, this is so obvious calling it an advanced technique, and naming it with your nick, is just sickeningly attention whoring.
I.T.P
Smash Ace
oh I forgot to mention, I tested my own question today, and yoshi CAN use a dashing shield/dashing shield grab.
pretty neat, though his grab range sucks
pretty neat, though his grab range sucks
Witchking_of_Angmar
Smash Lord
Your airdodge goes with the momentum you have, it does not move you in any direction. Basically, it just gives you invincibility frames without affecting your movement.
the reQuest
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I dont know if this has been touched on yet, (or even if its useful) but I'm just throwing it out there so others can test it.
A friend of mine has the game and he was messing around on Final Destination and he said that he found out a way to ledge stall.
"you hang on the ledge, drop, then jump of the side of the stage (wall jump), then snap onto the ledge again"
This might be a way to edgehog or it might be completly useless, but again, throwing it our there for community testing purposes.
A friend of mine has the game and he was messing around on Final Destination and he said that he found out a way to ledge stall.
"you hang on the ledge, drop, then jump of the side of the stage (wall jump), then snap onto the ledge again"
This might be a way to edgehog or it might be completly useless, but again, throwing it our there for community testing purposes.
jdub03
Smash Journeyman
Not sure if you guys still say its out but here is video confirmation that you can still reflect projectiles.
at 1:47
Powershielding?
at 1:47
Powershielding?
Goldkirby
Smash Ace
No, that's a new IC's ice block property. It automatically bounces off shields now.
Dark Sonic
Smash Hero
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1VncLplv5A
4:59
Now I know for a fact that Lucario's shadowball doesn't normally bounce off of shields. It's kinda wierd that it went through Lucario though.
4:59
Now I know for a fact that Lucario's shadowball doesn't normally bounce off of shields. It's kinda wierd that it went through Lucario though.
goblin
Smash Journeyman
so is this shield/dashcancelling going to become the new way to wavedash? it sounds like if u just cancel it u get some moment and are able to do any move so it sounds like the same advantages as wding.
or can u only cancel it after the initial dashing animation...?
or can u only cancel it after the initial dashing animation...?
WastingPenguins
Smash Ace
I'm interested in some comments on this as well. One of the above posts talks about tapping shield during a dash and how it will cancel the dash but maintain your momentum, AND that you can perform smashes, jabs, etc. out of this slide. Anyone?
pandacheck
Smash Ace
i dont like how brawls is slower than melee, kinda ghetto, but whatever, gotta get used to it
jdub03
Smash Journeyman
I found some semi confirmation of samus' missile cancel in a video posted by infil. I dont play samus so im not 100% sure. It looks like the landing lag of the missile is canceled. Take a look. Maybe you can put a link to this video in your missile canceling section.
Infil missile cancel(starts at 2:40)
Infil missile cancel(starts at 2:40)
MysticKenji
Smash Master
Fix'd.
And I'm not usre of what's going on either...
Though I'm pretty sure MK powershielded the sphere
Doomgaze
Smash Apprentice
It simply stops your running animation but is slightly faster than tapping down or the other direction (which causes the character to brake). So it's not a wave dash, it's the opposite. Sorry for being unclear and get your hopes up lol.
For instance: Run->tap shield lightly->jab
The shield will prevent your character from performing a dash attack.
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