Sgt. Baker
Smash Ace
I'd be able to do all of those...except movies lol. I'm a bum and don't have a way to upload matches to the computer. But I'll do all of the other things lol.
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Compendium of Lucas Advanced Techniques - 4/9
- Thread starter GofG
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~Pink Fresh~
Smash Master
meh good enough lol. stick around, maybe you will learn a few things.
btw are you like mid tier on the ganon boards tier list? i think that is where i saw you.
btw are you like mid tier on the ganon boards tier list? i think that is where i saw you.
Cactupuss
Smash Cadet
Has anyone discussed wavebouncing from a ledge? I see no mention of it...
When you jump up from the ledge you can use the horizontal momentum to wavebounce in either direction, then you can string it with a magnet pull, also in either direction. If you just do a normal wavebounce>magnet pull you will land right before the opposite ledge of FD. you can also zap jump after the first magnet pull because you still have your second jump.
Seriously the possibilities are endless...
When you jump up from the ledge you can use the horizontal momentum to wavebounce in either direction, then you can string it with a magnet pull, also in either direction. If you just do a normal wavebounce>magnet pull you will land right before the opposite ledge of FD. you can also zap jump after the first magnet pull because you still have your second jump.
Seriously the possibilities are endless...
I love doing this sort of thing. I prefer to combine zap jumping with wavebouncing, since it's much quicker. Opponents often don't expect the upward momentum of the zap jump, so you can let go of the ledge, sink a bit, and then zap jump + wavebounce back up onto the stage. I like using it on battlefield, since it can make you land on one of the platforms. They can punish you if they're alert, though ...
If you wavebounce fast enough, you can actually go the entire distance of FD and either grab the other ledge or die (barring a PKT2 recovery)......
EDIT: video-pardon the terrible view
Levitas
the moon
The move doesn't come out for a while, so you have time to start controlling it. I suggest using up b rather than bsticking it in any event.
welcome to smashboards ^_^
welcome to smashboards ^_^
Veril
Frame Savant
"shoots self in the face"
yes... I've discussed just about everything possible involving zapjumping/wavebouncing at some point.
Looks like I should return here for a little while.
Levitas
the moon
when did veril get so... emo?
Veril
Frame Savant
"looks indignant"
Jiggs isn't emo... she's damned, or undead or... something...
not emo
ick
ToxiCrow
Smash Ace
ok so about this thread.....
we can either un-sticky it, or update it because hasnt been updated since october.
and 3GOD's hitbox thread look's more accurate than the hitbox stuff on here
we can either un-sticky it, or update it because hasnt been updated since october.
and 3GOD's hitbox thread look's more accurate than the hitbox stuff on here
Veril
Frame Savant
I think it should be unstickied, seeing as nothing has changed or really been updated since I started playing Lucas. (Ie when I first came to smashboards...)
ToxiCrow
Smash Ace
ok then it's settled. if anything, we can make a new thread.
i asked the mods to sticky the critique thread and to close some of the spam threads here, so can someone else ask for the un-sticky? i dont want it to look like i'm pestering them
i asked the mods to sticky the critique thread and to close some of the spam threads here, so can someone else ask for the un-sticky? i dont want it to look like i'm pestering them
I will unsticky this thread. Send me a PM of the new one when it's made and you'll be good.
ToxiCrow
Smash Ace
thank you!
I don't know if this qualifies as an advanced technique, but did you ever just try using Pk thunder to just push your opponent off the stage and into oblivion? I find it is ridiculously easy, even at low percentages even at 0%. Maybe this is already known, i checked but didn't see...
ToxiCrow
Smash Ace
yeah it's edgeguarding with PKT
try readin Tyr's guide. it's one of the stickies. it has a buttload of useful info
try readin Tyr's guide. it's one of the stickies. it has a buttload of useful info
Levitas
the moon
skift, please don't post the same thing in two places. There's not a tremendous amount of activity, so if you post, we will see it.
Xeedoc
Smash Cadet
Any advice on SH nair cancel to jab combo?
I've been practicing, but cant cancel very well.
I've been practicing, but cant cancel very well.
Xeedoc
Smash Cadet
I want to connect a short hop neutral air that hits them with no knockback, then immediatly follow up with a jab combo.
I think thats what I have been seeing in videos, but im not 100% on it.
I think thats what I have been seeing in videos, but im not 100% on it.
FireKirby7
Smash Lord
nair = Neutral aerial attack, done by pressing attack in mid-air without moving the control stick/
SH = Short Hop, done by lightly pressing the jump button
toasty
Smash Hero
not trying to nitpick but I don't want people worrying about pressing a button too lightly; to short hop, you just press jump VERY quickly, not necessarily lightly [though that will still make you SH]
Make sure that you instantly glide your thumb from X (or Y) to A so that you start a SH and immediately NAir the moment you leave the ground, and do NOT fast fall, as then you will not auto-cancel. Since this move autocancels, as you already know, you can buffer a jab by starting to press A a couple moments before you land (not much time, I believe you only have 13 frames to buffer an attack) so right before you land buffer a jab.
Xeedoc
Smash Cadet
Because everytime I try i end up hitting them with the ending frames of nair causing a knockback so i cant jab.
Those aren't guaranteed combos dude. You either hit with a full nair, or you DI away from them, or land in their shield and start jabbing.
prOAPC
Smash Lord
non autocanceled nair combos, hit with seven hits of nair, and fast fall to avoid the 8th hit, Lucas will do a handstand, and with proper timing, you'll be able to combo it with and utilt or another nair
3:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-CcWtxcwrc
3:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-CcWtxcwrc
Xeedoc
Smash Cadet
Thats exactly the answer I was looking for.
Thanks so much, I'll just have to practice the precise fastfall.
Thanks so much, I'll just have to practice the precise fastfall.
Stinkfist
Smash Rookie
Sorry for the bump, but I just need to clarify this:
If you are holding an item and double jump at the same time you smash throw it upwards, Lucas obtains a vertical boost identical to that of Zap Jumping.
I know it would be rarely used in competition, but it deserves a mention, or something. Also I have no video for it, sorry.
If you are holding an item and double jump at the same time you smash throw it upwards, Lucas obtains a vertical boost identical to that of Zap Jumping.
I know it would be rarely used in competition, but it deserves a mention, or something. Also I have no video for it, sorry.
DarkStarStorm
Smash Ace
Yeah this is easy. Though not many pros use it. I mostly use it for Project M's Zelda.
GofG
Smash Champion
Lol. I made that post a couple months after brawl's release. It's been 6 years since then.
DarkStarStorm
Smash Ace
lol oopie! I've been practicing up a Lucas for a Brawl doubles tourney with a Pikachu partner.