Community Create-A-Team: A New Start - Yanmega!

[Gates]

Actually it's more like status absorber/wallbreaker but whatever.

Another solution we could have is just to put Lum Berry on a boosting sweeper and use that as our status absorber.

 

[mood4food77]

but that only works once but on the other hand, we have starmie who works pretty well as a status absorber

i'm still standing by breloom as the status absorber

 

[Wave⁂]

Status absorber and wallbreaker don't have to be one and the same.

Starmie is crappy sleep absorber.

 

[Gates]

Breloom can't switch in on a status move other than Toxic, which is a problem.

 

[Wave⁂]

Yeah, but it's not all that hard to trigger the Toxic Orb.

 

[mood4food77]

yea maybe you're right, since she recovers it when she switches out the opponent will just use the status move again

it's really ******** how easily breloom can be poisoned

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Well, now that we have decided that mood4food needs to lurk moar...

Status Absorbers:
Breloom
Rest Talk Machamp
Nidoking / Nidoqueen

Ahh I must have missed this.

In order to poll on these without wasting up more space, I'd like to make this an edit poll. Simply voice out which one of these you would like to see on the team. Substance posts will be appreciated.

For example if Writer and UltiMario vote for Breloom and Annoying votes for Nidoking the "poll" would look like this:

Breloom - 2
Machamp -
Nidoking - 1
Nidokqueen -

I'll take care of tallying the votes and all.

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

Works, I guess.

 

[CRASHiC]

I vote for Machamp. Given that our water type is a spin support and our lead, I don't want to increase our fire weakness of risk getting runover by Heatran or the microwave Rotom. I love Breloom to death of course, but I don't want to make us weak to two very common pokemon, and would rather the rest of our team be freed up to further support Yan

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Support Member Votes
Breloom - 1
Machamp - 1
Nidoking - 1
Nidokqueen -

Again, I will be abstaining unless it's necessary as a tie-breaker.

-Terywj

 

[mood4food77]

breloom. his spore allows more sweeping potential for yanmega and his resistance to edgequake is a huge plus to this team. his fire weakness can easily be overcome by adding heatran or something that would resist fire and his ability to status absorb is unmatched.

 

[ss118]

Nidoking. **** yeah

 

[xLeafybug =D]

I'm not too sure. I'm leaning towards Breloom, but I don't wanna give a biased opinion. Everyone who knows the first thing about me knows I have a tiny (*ahemMAJORahem*) addiction to anything Breloom related. I see the reasons for Machamp, but I'm not certain yet.

Actually, screw it. I vote Machamp.

 

[CRASHiC]

Great, the tie has increased xD

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Breloom - 2
Machamp - 3
Nidoking - 6
Nidoqueen -

As of this post.
I'll let this go on until however long we need be.

-Terywj

 

[kirbyraeg]

I guess I have to back nidoking if I want a nido on the team at all...so NIDOKING.

 

[Bowser_Gangsta]

I am going for the Nidoking vote as well.

 

[Moozle]

Nidoking for the originality, and because it would actually do a good job.

 

[Gates]

I vote Machamp

 

[UltiMario]

Breloom. I can pretty much absorb any status because it's incredibly easy to poison, and can abuse walls in ways that Machamp and others can't with Spore and SubPunch. As much as I want to see Machamp for the wallbreaker, Breloom surpasses him being able to absorb ANY status with no issue after being Poisoned.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Poll will close tonight at ~8 PM Eastern

-Terywj

 

[Circa]

Voting Nidoking.

 

[ss118]

Nidoking still: people don't realize that we're talking about the FIRST time Blissey comes in on something like Starmie, where you're forced to go to something: and if it's Breloom you potentially lose a chunk to Ice Beam and Flamethrower, or get crippled by Thunder Wave.

Nidoking doesn't phaze to anything other than Ice Beam. It also does the best job at beating team members commonly used with Blissey.

Machamp loses to stall teams badly: either to flying types with payback or Rotom/ Celebi with SE. Blissey also loses to Celebi badly: Nidoking beats them all.

 

[supermarth64]

Lol Nidoking isn't beating Rotom-A without Shadow Ball, as Fire Blast only 3HKOes and Rotom-A can just Shadow Ball back for a 2HKO.

And there's no way you're running Shadow Ball because then you miss out on hitting certain targets.

 

[Metal~Mario]

Nidoking.

I would list my reasons but they are exactly what's already been said.

 

[mood4food77]

breloom doesn't lose 50% from blissey's moves and he spores the switch in, pretty much recovering all damage

 

[kirbyraeg]

186 Atk vs 156 Def & 261 HP (95 Base Power): 164 - 194 (62.84% - 74.33%)

that's either flamethrower OR ice beam vs. min hp breloom. Even with max HP that's doing over 50%, which is very similar to the damage being done to nidoking but only with ice beam...

 

[mood4food77]

by the time blissey has either switched out or been put to sleep, breloom is at 50% life minimum

i was wrong about the damage calc but that's something nidoking won't do

 

[Circa]

by the time blissey has either switched out or been put to sleep, breloom is at 50% life minimum

i was wrong about the damage calc but that's something nidoking won't do

And likely paralyzed and thus not healing every turn, in the event that Blissey hit the field before Breloom could (which I'd imagine is likely).

Your arguments are rather half-baked. Think everything through before posting an argument next time please.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Nidoking wins the poll. Shall we move onto the rest of the team or work with the specified builds of the current 3 - Yanmega / Starmie / Nidoking?

-Terywj

 

[Wave⁂]

(Scarf)Tar weakness. Scizor or Lucario?

 

[Metal~Mario]

Let's go Luke for the Fighting STAB.

 

[kirbyraeg]

Where is the scarftar weakness (other than leadmie)?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Where is the scarftar weakness (other than leadmie)?

Stone Edge says hi to Yanmega.

Earthquake says hi to Nidoking.

-Terywj

 

[Gates]

Your arguments are rather half-baked. Think everything through before posting an argument next time please.

This.

Speaking of half-baked, I think that's what he is whenever he posts. That's why he's in the mood4food, cause he's got the munchies.

(Scarf)Tar weakness. Scizor or Lucario?

I say Scizor because he also gets rid of any potential weaknesses we could have to Mence and Blissey.

Where is the scarftar weakness (other than leadmie)?

Nidoking can't do much if TTar uses EQ, Yanmega gets OHKO'd by pretty much anything, and Sandstorm also hurts in the long run.

 

[mood4food77]

i don't smoke that often guys, it's been like 2 months since i did it last

i'm still not liking nidoking on the team, i could see him eventually being replaced

 

[Circa]

I agree with using Scizor. Lucario still has to watch out for EQ.

Better to try and fail than to never try at all is all I have to say about arguing against Nidoking. It's not every day that it actually gets the chance to fill a niche on an OU team, so giving it the opportunity to do so is always nice.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Speaking of half-baked, I think that's what he is whenever he posts. That's why he's in the mood4food, cause he's got the munchies.

i don't smoke that often guys, it's been like 2 months since i did it last

i'm still not liking nidoking on the team, i could see him eventually being replaced

We are not here to attack each other.

Also, if we find Nidoking isn't working, then we'll replace him. None of the other team members are set in stone. Everyone needs to understand that.

-Terywj

 

[kirbyraeg]

Yanmega can outspeed scarftar though after +1. If it's weakened enough it can knock it out with LO bug buzz, and it REALLY doesn't take much weakening to put scarftar in KO range:

364 Atk vs 354 Def & 342 HP (90 Base Power): 258 - 306 (75.44% - 89.47%)

What we really need is something that can come in on scarftar safely, scare it off, and punch holes in the opposing team more than we need an explicit scarftar counter. I'd actually say a nice, defensive swampert there would help us getting rocks out, scouting, and also checking scarftar and some other steels reliably.

 

[Metal~Mario]

I agree with using Scizor. Lucario still has to watch out for EQ.

Better to try and fail than to never try at all is all I have to say about arguing against Nidoking. It's not every day that it actually gets the chance to fill a niche on an OU team, so giving it the opportunity to do so is always nice.

Hmmm... alright.

Also agreed with the whole Nidoking predicament.