Colorado Smash - MVG Presents: REVELATION 2 - MIDWEST NATIONAL! MVG QUALIFIER! May 16-17

[Z'zgashi]

I dont even understand what youre talking about anymore...

First off, since for some reason you keep bringing this up, Ill post this...
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!
NOBODY EVER SAID YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WAS BAD OR TO GET BETTER!!

Ever. And back to the actual discussion... I HAVE been reading your posts, hence why I directly give my opinions on things youve posted. I never ignored anything you said and gave my opinion as to what I think of banning MK. And when you say that these things here:

I hate being told get better by worse people who rely on high tiers at the expense of the CP stages/system.
Even after I post several replays of me beating good MKs. So I assumed it was another one of these *ugh*.
Bad smash states/regions and low tiers have to constantly defend their skills too.

I dont know whether or not this is directed at me, so if its not, disregard this, but first of all, I dont use MK. I dont even use a high tier. The characters I use are Bowser and Yoshi with the occasional Mario/Luigi. And when you talk about being from a 'bad smash state', Im from Utah. So in regards to that last sentence, I am EVERYTHING you are describing, and yet guess what? Im defending MK. Do you know why this is? Its not because I use him, its not because I tier *****, etc, its because HES NOT BAN WORTHY.

Losing stages still sucks.

I agree, I want my PictoChat back!

 

[Rizen]

Lol, you misunderstand. That was quoted from and referring to a different MK ban talk somewhere else. I wrongly assumed that people were saying the same here at first but then saw that wasn't the case. The quote was showing why I reacted strongly.

 

[Ken Neth]

It's all good we still <3 u

Just quoting my earlier post

But I'm not gonna debate it or tell you what to do, cause it's your state.

all I was sayin was the people placing well in whobo placed well cause they are the top of the meta game with their characters and do well in tourneys with or without MK banned. All I was sayin.

 

[-Mars-]

My mk too goods smash all day son

 

[Z'zgashi]

^ MK v. Bowser mm tomorrow lets go

 

[-Mars-]

^ MK v. Bowser mm tomorrow lets go

Not going...rain check.

 

[DeLux]

Rizen, I WAS ALSO IN THE COMMITTEE and I completely disagree with banning him.

I am really disappointed right now. Extremely positively disappointed.

 

[CloudChaser071]

dafuq happened in here

 

[Rizen]

Nothing noteworthy. *sigh*

 

[dettadeus]

I think the main reason a lot of CO is against MK is because a large majority of us main characters who get completely wrecked by MK.

The main reason some of us want him unbanned is because we're looking at going OoS where MK probably isn't banned and we have a higher chance of getting wrecked with no recent tourney experience vs MK.

I still think we should try to have ONE MK legal tournament, see how it plays out, then decide from there.

 

[Steam]

Now that there's this big MK debate here, I think I'm gonna try to go day 1 homoMK at the Foco Tourney today since it's MK legal.

@debate- MK isn't an instant win button, but he's an easy button in every scenario. So I prefer the game without him. Every game has a best character, but it becomes stupid when said character has no bad matchups. Olimar/ICs are the best with MK banned, but they have bad matchups with MK banned.

 

[Z'zgashi]

@debate- MK isn't an instant win button, but he's an easy button in every scenario.

Every situation? That is SO VERY VERY VERY VERY incorrect on SO MANY LEVELS. Do you even watch any high level play? Name me one national tournament where an MK main breezed though EVERY non MK match easily. Name me one MK player who has NEVER had a close match or a hard time against any other character. Name me ONE MK PLAYER who can consistently beat players like Vinnie, ESAM, etc without EVER dropping a game. I cant even express how very wrong you are about that statement/opinion and if that is how you honestly think, then you have lost all the credibility I have ever given you.

 

[Rizen]

I assume by easy button Steam was referring to how MK has no bad MUs or stages.

 

[dettadeus]

FoCo Fest was awesome. Apparently Trey's computer did an auto-update in the middle of the night though so the brackets got erased. >_>

I'll repost whatever results there are when they're up on FB.

Summit 5 maybe the 27th?

 

[DeLux]

KS can't go on the 27th

 

[dettadeus]

When's the next weekend you can go? If it's not the next week, then we might as well still have Summit 5 on the 27th then host another one two weeks later.

 

[DeLux]

Next week is Retribution

I am not 100% positive about November 3rd because I dont' know my new job route schedule
I know I have one job off that weekend, and I have to wait and see for the other

 

[dettadeus]

Well, let me know if the 3rd works for you ASAP, because I'm probably going to call and get Summit 5 set up later today or sometime tomorrow afternoon.

 

[DeLux]

I won't know until Monday after Retribution lol

 

[Steam]

Every situation? That is SO VERY VERY VERY VERY incorrect on SO MANY LEVELS. Do you even watch any high level play? Name me one national tournament where an MK main breezed though EVERY non MK match easily. Name me one MK player who has NEVER had a close match or a hard time against any other character. Name me ONE MK PLAYER who can consistently beat players like Vinnie, ESAM, etc without EVER dropping a game. I cant even express how very wrong you are about that statement/opinion and if that is how you honestly think, then you have lost all the credibility I have ever given you.

He's an easy button as in choosing him makes your match easier a VAST majority of the time since he has a matchup advantage on everyone, and dominates like every CP.

anyways FOCO was fun. really wish we could have saved the bracket >_>

1. Steam
2. Rubio
3. Meno
4. Dave!
5. DTan
5. Tiger

I dunno others.

as for matches that matter for PR iirc Dtan beat I and I think Dogg beat skullkid.

 

[dettadeus]

as for matches that matter for PR iirc Dtan beat I and I think Dogg beat skullkid.

I beat Meno in a Bo3 MM but dunno if MMs count at all for PR stuff.

 

[Steam]

I beat Meno in a Bo3 MM but dunno if MMs count at all for PR stuff.

They do. and stuff.

 

[CloudChaser071]

Damn.

Awesome ****, Rubio.

 

[Z'zgashi]

He's an easy button as in choosing him makes your match easier a VAST majority of the time since he has a matchup advantage on everyone, and dominates like every CP.

...Thats the same as picking almost any top tier in any game... 80% of the time, if youre playing a non top tier, switching to a better character will give you better MUs and advantages a VAST majority of the time. This isnt just an MK/Brawl/etc thing, this happens in almost every game, and few games if any have achieved enough balance to void that.

 

[-Mars-]

Most of the current fighting games are extremely balanced. Why? Because they allow patches on other consoles.

 

[Steam]

...Thats the same as picking almost any top tier in any game... 80% of the time, if youre playing a non top tier, switching to a better character will give you better MUs and advantages a VAST majority of the time. This isnt just an MK/Brawl/etc thing, this happens in almost every game, and few games if any have achieved enough balance to void that.

I know, it's the same thing with olimar/ICs with MK gone... but they still have bad matchups and bad stages. and you know... don't just destroy the roster even after everyone else learns every intricate detail about the character...

 

[deepseadiva]

$1 MM

>__>

Legit defeat. I just think it's always important to note the amounts involved.

 

[Steam]

$1 MM

>__>

Legit defeat. I just think it's always important to note the amounts involved.

that's 100 cents tho

 

[Rizen]

that's 100 cents tho

But only 4 quarters



We need RC and Brin to balance Oli and ICs.

 

[dettadeus]

If I have more money at Summit 5 I'll be willing to do larger MMs, I only came to FoCo Fest with like 9 bucks though lol. $1-$2 MMs were all I could manage Saturday.

Assuming I manage to make some money in the next couple weeks, $5 MM at Summit 5, Meno?

@Rizen RC and Brinstar are normally legal at Summits, and they'll probably be legal at Summit 5 (which I guess will be MK Banned since FoCo Fest was MK legal).

Unless I decide I really really hate brinstar with a burning passion and ban it.

Also Rizen I'm bringing you to Summit 5. Be ready.

and then I remembered I still owe Steam a buck from our MM at Fighter Frenzy

 

[Steam]

AND I STILL HAVE TO GET MY TWO DOLLARS BACK FROM DTL. DON'T THINK I FORGOT!!!

/caps

 

[dettadeus]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=328864

 

[Zajice]

Sometimes.

You guys.

Sometimes.

 

[Sunnysunny]

C-colorado winters can go die in a warm warm fire.
.-.

 

[Z'zgashi]

C-colorado winters can go die in a warm warm Colorado wild fire.
.-.

Fixe d

 

[Rizen]

^Not funny.

 

[Sunnysunny]

Too soon Gashi. =/

 

[Z'zgashi]

lmao you guys are so sensitive, and you act like youre the only ones who get wildfires. Utah gets tons as well (honestly not sure which has more though, but im pretty sure its close) and Id be willing to bet you large sums of money that nobody in the utah thread would even slightly be offended by bringing up wildfires.

You guys need to all go spend 10 mins somewhere in the deeper realms of the internet or something lol

 

[Ken Neth]

I think CO's fire situation hit a little closer to home than our fires. They had thousands of homes endangered or destroyed while most of our fires happen in the middle of nowhere.. Just sayin

 

[Rizen]

Homes and forests too.