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Colorado Smash - MVG Presents: REVELATION 2 - MIDWEST NATIONAL! MVG QUALIFIER! May 16-17

Timotee

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The art, game style, and mechanics lend themselves to bb being a faster game, which is usually made by having higher damage. The fact that so many matches were going near time up in cs1 with that high of damage point to the damage being overly nerfed.

You have at least 4 rounds, which is at least 8 mistakes.
 

Spelt

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It is faster though.
They've just readjusted the whole offensive mechanics of the game to make sure of that.
pressure in general is much stronger, and most combos corner carry or lead to knockdown which just resets pressure or even makes it stronger.
and it still has high damage, just not as high as it was in previous iterations.
 

Steam

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New barwl tier list. Snake is 3rd. Wolf went up 6 spots and bees characters all fell tons. Bees step it up you ****ing scrub.




Lucario +2 :3

:phone:
 

Sunnysunny

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Just 1 more away from top tier steamy~! :D
Yoshi's finaly mid tier. Yeeeeeeeeey~! C: Kiiiiinda pointless though. Only difference is now I can't use him in low tier tourneys.

Also lol. Only 7 pages and pit mains are already starting the salt fest.
 

Zajice

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lucario +2 :3
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Arcana~

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S: Meta Knight
A: Diddy Kong, Snake, Falco
B: Marth, Wario, Ice Climbers, Olimar, Pikachu
C: Lucario, King Dedede, Zero Suit Samus, Mr. Game & Watch, Toon Link
D: Fox, Wolf, Peach
E: Donkey Kong, Kirby, R.O.B., Pit, Sonic
F: Ike, Sheik/Zelda, Luigi, Sheik, Ness, Yoshi, Pokémon Trainer
G: Lucas, Mario, Bowser, Samus, Captain Falcon
H: Link, Jigglypuff, Zelda, Ganondorf

Apparently there's an "H Tier" now.

Lol @ ROB dropping

Aw @ Weegee dropping

Rumor's are saying that MK will be banned soon (this time for real). I doubt it though.
 

Steam

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Peach is way too high to me... I dunno why she rose. I felt like she should have dropped like a rock down near Ike.

Hopefully mk gets banned, would make the game a lot healthier

:phone:
 

Arcana~

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I don't really care anymore if he does get banned, if I can't use him then that means I don't have to worry about anyone else using him against me. Gives me the chance to main Fox and use Weegee more.
 

Steam

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You don't want to use weegie. You just play supergay against him and easy win. Fox is good but I'll have my pocket pika ready

:phone:
 

Sunnysunny

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Jeeze. You really arn't afraid to play gay, huh steam? xD

Wait...
WAIT NO "xD"

YOU ARE WHATS WRONG WITH SMASH! THIS IS WHY SMASH CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!
>:C
 

Sunnysunny

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Totally agreed. Lucario v Fox isn't that bad. But pikachu vs fox is just RAAAAPE! Its like a big middle finger to fox mains. Don't be a CP ***** steam. :< Besides, I've got mad respect for your lucario. Your procario enough to handle a fox. C:


btw I feel like crap today mentally. ._. Like my brain just totally shuts down when I talk to people. Its really bumming me out. I had to edit this post like 50 times because I disliked the wording. That bad. Anyone know how to deal with this?

*emo corner*
 

Spelt

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Peach is way too high to me... I dunno why she rose. I felt like she should have dropped like a rock down near Ike.
She's done a lot more than ... all of the characters below her.

You don't want to use weegie. You just play supergay against him and easy win. Fox is good but I'll have my pocket pika ready
foxvspikachuisn'tthatbadlol.
you'llgetyourasshandedtoyoubyanybodywhoknowswhatthey'redoing.
 

Spelt

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the CG doesn't even kill him.
and if you DO try to kill him than you just wasted your most reliable kill move.
and if you don't you just lost ... 15%, i think, from the chaingrab.
 

Sunnysunny

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Derp. I'm too lazy to go search this in training mode, but I think U-tilt to thunder may be a real combo out of a D-throw. Not sure. I just remember that pikas U-tilt had a ridiculous amount of hitstun. Which is pretty damn silly for a tailswat.

Anywho the chaingrab does alot of damage at the very least, but thats when the really battle starts.

Pikachu can't get a kill easily in this MU. Fox has more overall mobility, pressure game, and can ignore pikachu's keep away game (lol reflector) so he has too approach. Thunder set up's are also useless because of that damn reflector. Really your best option for a kill is getting an OoS N-air maybe a hard read F-smash too. (Isn't that what steam's snake is famous for? =p)

An inexperienced pocket pikachu getting a grab on any half decent fox is soooo unlikely. I wouldn't dare try and CP fox with pika unless you're confident enough to use him as a secondary against other characters. I've watched so many matches of people trying to go pikachu only to get ***** because they don't know the basics of Chu and go for nothing but grabs. .-.

TL;DR: Pika scrubs get rocked yo.
 

Spelt

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No tim mains wario.
but that would be less funny because gay wario is a legit strategy.
 

Steam

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@spelt-sawnick has done more than peech :troll:

And I'd actually probably go falco against fox because I'd be seconding him if mk got banned. Or maybe lolsnake

:phone:
 

Spelt

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no.
his last yearish of good results doesn't compare to peach's ~3 years of steady average-above average results.
 

FerrishTheFish

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I just got word that my grandparents are coming to visit on Friday. Since my grandparents are awesome and we only get to see them once a year (if that), Devondorf, Zim, and I will probably be at home on Saturday.

I say, 94% chance we don't come at all, 1% chance we come and bring my grandparents along (no cussin', young 'uns), 5% chance we come without my grandparents.

If anyone was planning on attending EoD@Q next Saturday, please post here and we've got a week to set something up. I'll post back here as soon as I know more about the situation.
 

Spelt

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then ... MLG shouldn't matter.
peach placed better than him at whobo.
and john's data shows that if you take out the outlier (espy ... who i don't think attends tournaments very often anymore) than peach and sonic are pretty much even in results, peach might even be slightly ahead, idr exactly.


Oh well, i don't think anybody here really cares about this so i'm gonna stop with this discussion.
i've been posting way too much lately.
everybody here is probably sick of me.
 

Espy Rose

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and john's data shows that if you take out the outlier (espy ... who i don't think attends tournaments very often anymore) than peach and sonic are pretty much even in results, peach might even be slightly ahead, idr exactly.
It works both ways though. Just remember that.
And less active? Absolutely, but:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=305988

I've still got results. And this just happened a week ago.
 
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